Hi, my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again. The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type. Any hints, what to do? Thanks Klaus
On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:57 am, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus =========
Klaus, Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm not trying to be rude, but get yourself a real sound card that plugs into a PCI slot and you'll have far fewer problems. The AC97 stuff seldom works reliably, if it works at all many times. regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes
Thanks Lee, for this hint. As this is not a multimedia-machine, I did not care too much. Can you name a reasonable soundcard, which works well with Linux? Thanks for your help Klaus BandiPat schrieb:
On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:57 am, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
=========
Klaus, Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm not trying to be rude, but get yourself a real sound card that plugs into a PCI slot and you'll have far fewer problems. The AC97 stuff seldom works reliably, if it works at all many times.
regards, Lee
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On Sunday 12 June 2005 02:45 pm, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Thanks Lee, for this hint.
As this is not a multimedia-machine, I did not care too much.
Can you name a reasonable soundcard, which works well with Linux?
Thanks for your help
Klaus
========= You should not have trouble finding an inexpensive card, either online or locally. Usually the Creative brands are well supported, as are many of the others available now. Someone here can probably alert you to ones they might have had trouble with before. I've used mostly Creative in my computer builds though and the ones I've tried that didn't work were still unsupported at the time. Now all that is not to say you couldn't get the AC97 builtin sound to work mostly, but if you intend to have sound on that machine, I highly recommend a card for it, eliminating the onboard AC97, if possible. I'm sure there are several here using builtin sound, but I've been disappointed with it on every computer I've seen it on, both in Linux & Windows. good luck, Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206
Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Thanks Lee, for this hint.
As this is not a multimedia-machine, I did not care too much.
Can you name a reasonable soundcard, which works well with Linux?
Thanks for your help
Klaus
BandiPat schrieb:
On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:57 am, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
=========
Klaus, Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm not trying to be rude, but get yourself a real sound card that plugs into a PCI slot and you'll have far fewer problems. The AC97 stuff seldom works reliably, if it works at all many times.
regards, Lee
There's cards like the Envy24 cards. M-audio uses this chipset and so does Turtle Beach (now owned by Voyetra). Their lower end cards are pretty cheap and will often work well with SuSE and others. Then there's the reliable (read lions share of the market) Creative SoundBlaster. You can now pick up an Audigy (ver 1) for about $40 U.S in an OEM package and they have them on sale all the time (blowing out over stock). And this also holds for the SoundBlaster Live series - OEM versions go for as low as $20 U.S. or less consistantly. These cards are nice insofar that they have a truer hardware focus then the software dsp based Envy series. The AC97 are VIA chipsets. They are supported in 9.X and I have had them up and running in 9.1 (the most problematice of the 9.x series). the kernel module is "snd-via82xx.ko" and if need be (esp for testing) you can manually load this, then dep it and see if it's working or what failure message you get - otherwise look to try yast/2 to set it up (can be a tad flakey at times - lol). Also do a google for "SuSE hardware compatibility list". This will lead you to the Novell-SuSE site - use the "express" search. I put asterixes in the fields, chose soundcards and got the whole list. HTH. Curtis.
On Sunday 12 June 2005 2:34 pm, BandiPat wrote:
On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:57 am, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
=========
Klaus, Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm not trying to be rude, but get yourself a real sound card that plugs into a PCI slot and you'll have far fewer problems. The AC97 stuff seldom works reliably, if it works at all many times.
GOOD advice, Lee! Fred -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft. We have no bugs in our software, Never! We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost to you, at this time.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! To all who gave their advice and sent me their thoughts. It really helps and first thing tomorrow, I will go an buy a different soundcard. Klaus Fred A. Miller schrieb:
On Sunday 12 June 2005 2:34 pm, BandiPat wrote:
On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:57 am, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
=========
Klaus, Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm not trying to be rude, but get yourself a real sound card that plugs into a PCI slot and you'll have far fewer problems. The AC97 stuff seldom works reliably, if it works at all many times.
GOOD advice, Lee!
Fred
BandiPat schrieb am 12.06.2005 20:34:
On Sunday 12 June 2005 07:57 am, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
=========
Klaus, Don't take this the wrong way, as I'm not trying to be rude, but get yourself a real sound card that plugs into a PCI slot and you'll have far fewer problems. The AC97 stuff seldom works reliably, if it works at all many times.
regards, Lee
Okay, this is not about the specific problem of Klaus, but it's about AC97 cards generally. I use an AC97 card at home for multimedia (audio / video / gaming / gameing while listen to mp3 etc). It needs some work, but after that it works fine. On my nforce2 mainboard I have no problems anymore with sound, even digital out is no problem. First thing to know is, only some Soundblaster cards can do multi opens. Cheapest ones should be to get a SB 512 PCI. It has a emu10k chipsets supporting multi-opens. If you have another card like an AC97, you have to take care when using more than one audio application at once, let's say KDE should give sound events while xmms is playing. Normally the first application opens the soundcard and blocks it for every other application. Just try to get every "sound emitting application" to use alsa nativly. That's the first and most important step KDE's sound daemon artsd can do alsa and will choose by default if availiable. xmms has an alsa output plugin, too. Now you just have to tell alsa, that it shouldn't allow every application to open the soundcard, but make automatic software mixing transparent in the background. One does configure alsa system wide with the /etc/asound.conf. There you can configure the default device to be the software mixer plugin and after that every good alsa application just can play, no matter if another alsa application is already playing. You can have xmms playing, watch a video with mplayer and KDE tells you with sound that you have new mail. I have attached my example of asound.conf. With this config you even can activate full duplex in KDE control center -> sound system. If someone has any questions, just reply. Best, Daniel pcm.!default { type plug slave.pcm "duplex" } pcm.dsp0 { type plug slave.pcm "duplex" } pcm.dmixer { type dmix ipc_key 1024 slave { pcm "hw:0,0" period_time 0 buffer_time 0 period_size 1024 buffer_size 4096 #periods 128 rate 44100 } bindings { 0 0 1 1 } } pcm.dsnooper { type dsnoop ipc_key 0507 slave { pcm "hw:0,0" period_time 0 buffer_time 0 period_size 1024 buffer_size 4096 } bindings { 0 0 1 1 } } pcm.duplex { type asym playback.pcm "dmixer" capture.pcm "dsnooper" } ctl.mixer0 { type hw card 0 }
On Sunday 12 June 2005 08:57, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
By "change the user" do you mean, Switch User? Or do you mean logging out of the current user and into another user? Alvin -- Please reply to the list.
On Sunday 12 Jun 2005 12:57, Klaus-F. Kaal wrote:
Hi,
my soundcard was auto-configured and works fine. Unless I change the user in KDE. Then, I have to go to yast, delete the soundcard from the soundconfiguration list. Then I add a new soundcard which is recogized well and installed. After that, the sound works again.
The soundcard is aVT8233/A8235/8237 AC97 Audio Contoller Type.
Any hints, what to do?
Thanks
Klaus
Klaus how are you switching users? are you using the kmenu "switch user" whilst you are still logged in or are you logging out and logging in again. The reason I ask is that SuSe seems to set the permissions on the device to that of the originally connecting user example from my dev directory crw------- 1 apc audio 116, 0 2004-10-02 09:38 controlC0 Therefore no other user has access to the sound card you can check if this is the case by chmod +rw /dev/snd/* and see if the sound card starts to work for your other user. Note that you may find the snd devices in some other place. Andrew ------------------------------- Jabber: acolvin@jabber.org MSN: apc@abcj.demon.co.uk ICQ: 44775817
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