[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.1 Released With openSUSE Packages and Live CD
Original openSUSE News story: http://news.opensuse.org/?p=963 8<--------------------------------------------------------------------------- KDE 4.1 Released With openSUSE Packages and Live CD The KDE team today released KDE 4.1 [1]. The KDE developers, including the openSUSE KDE Team, have been working on it for the last six months. Lots of feedback from people trying out KDE 4.0 has gone into KDE 4.1, filling most of the gaps people experienced with the 4.0 releases. See the release announcement [2] for more information and screenshots KDE 4.1 Packages, openSUSE-based KDE 4.1 Live CD Regular KDE 4 Packages [3] and an openSUSE-based KDE Four Live CD [4] have been available throughout the whole cycle, and final versions of them are also available now. On openSUSE 11.0 you can use 1-click-install to get the KDE 4.1 desktop environment (for openSUSE 10.3 follow link #3): http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/d/dd/Kde4-ymp.png Or you can choose to install a more basic KDE 4 desktop. Developers can also optionally install the KDE 4 build dependencies: all the packages you need to have installed for compiling KDE 4.x from source (experts only). [1] http://dot.kde.org/1217341401 [2] http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/ [3] http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 [4] http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 08:19:13 am Stephan Binner wrote:
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KDE 4.1 Released With openSUSE Packages and Live CD
The KDE team today released KDE 4.1 [1]. The KDE developers, including the openSUSE KDE Team, have been working on it for the last six months. Lots of feedback from people trying out KDE 4.0 has gone into KDE 4.1, filling most of the gaps people experienced with the 4.0 releases. See the release announcement [2] for more information and screenshots
KDE 4.1 Packages, openSUSE-based KDE 4.1 Live CD
Regular KDE 4 Packages [3] and an openSUSE-based KDE Four Live CD [4] have been available throughout the whole cycle, and final versions of them are also available now. On openSUSE 11.0 you can use 1-click-install to get the KDE 4.1 desktop environment (for openSUSE 10.3 follow link #3):
http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/d/dd/Kde4-ymp.png
Or you can choose to install a more basic KDE 4 desktop. Developers can also optionally install the KDE 4 build dependencies: all the packages you need to have installed for compiling KDE 4.x from source (experts only).
[1] http://dot.kde.org/1217341401 [2] http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/ [3] http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 [4] http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
A link to the openSUSE 11.0 Repo would have been nice. Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Ben Kevan wrote:
A link to the openSUSE 11.0 Repo would have been nice.
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSU... DEFAULT.ymp Greetings, Dirk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2008 18:13:03 schrieb Dirk Mueller:
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Ben Kevan wrote:
A link to the openSUSE 11.0 Repo would have been nice.
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS USE_11.0/KDE4- DEFAULT.ymp
I would like to try out KDE4.1. Is it possible to install it parallel to KDE3? Are the Repos in ".../KDE4:" ? Thanks for answering Wilfried --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 09:34:12 am Wilfried Lahme wrote:
I would like to try out KDE4.1. Is it possible to install it parallel to KDE3?
Yes, that is why there is .kde and .kde4 You can switch your session during the login screen
Are the Repos in ".../KDE4:" ?
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/ Is the repository
Thanks for answering
Hopefully I answered correctly, DIrk / Stephan may give better.
Wilfried
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On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:34:12 am Wilfried Lahme wrote:
I would like to try out KDE4.1. Is it possible to install it parallel to KDE3?
Yes. I use it that way, though, as another user, not this one. Recently I had messed desktop trying to use KDE4 as this user. It wasn't anything essential, just some work to fix desktop icons in KDE4 and then again when I was back to KDE3. I can't spend few minutes fixing icons on every change, so I'll keep using KDE4 as second session with different user. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 09:13:03 am Dirk Mueller wrote:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS USE_11.0
Why isn't it yet in: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/Desktop/openS... ? Will it be pushed to there? I'm still a bit confused of how these repositories are going to work. It's strange that you guys would put a one touch install which adds a factory repository no? Factory sounds much scarier then unstable (when you understand what Factory is). Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Ben Kevan kirjoitti:
I'm still a bit confused of how these repositories are going to work.
You are not alone... J-O.E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 18:43:34 schrieb Ben Kevan:
Will it be pushed to there? I'm still a bit confused of how these repositories are going to work. It's strange that you guys would put a one touch install which adds a factory repository no? Factory sounds much scarier then unstable (when you understand what Factory is).
Factory is what will become the next suse version. So if 11.1 will come with KDE 4.1.x that is the version contained in factory until 11.1 is released. Unstable is whatever will be after the next release, i.e. 11.2 from todays perspective. Since nobody is working on 11.2 yet you will not see that many updates for the unstable repo. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 10:23:10 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 18:43:34 schrieb Ben Kevan:
Will it be pushed to there? I'm still a bit confused of how these repositories are going to work. It's strange that you guys would put a one touch install which adds a factory repository no? Factory sounds much scarier then unstable (when you understand what Factory is).
Factory is what will become the next suse version. So if 11.1 will come with KDE 4.1.x that is the version contained in factory until 11.1 is released.
Unstable is whatever will be after the next release, i.e. 11.2 from todays perspective.
Since nobody is working on 11.2 yet you will not see that many updates for the unstable repo.
Sven
So since UNSTABLE does not have 4.1 is it safe to say that 11.2 will not have KDE 4.1 or does that throw a whole wrench in your logic? What happened to the easy days .. when Stable was Stable release of KDE (and not the latest stable release of the currently developed version (which will later be seen in updates anyways). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 19:34:42 schrieb Ben Kevan:
So since UNSTABLE does not have 4.1 is it safe to say that 11.2 will not have KDE 4.1 or does that throw a whole wrench in your logic?
Actually not, it is not updated frequently, because nobody is working on it. Any other conclusion is useless. If KDE 4.2 is within the 11.2 schedule it will contain svn trunk at some point I guess. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:01:21 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 19:34:42 schrieb Ben Kevan:
So since UNSTABLE does not have 4.1 is it safe to say that 11.2 will not have KDE 4.1 or does that throw a whole wrench in your logic?
Actually not, it is not updated frequently, because nobody is working on it. Any other conclusion is useless.
If KDE 4.2 is within the 11.2 schedule it will contain svn trunk at some point I guess.
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So to get KDE 4.1, I have to add a repository that will also have svn versions of KDE .. when all I really want is the final release of KDE 4.1 (or stable releases like KDE 4.1.1) .. So there is no way to get that? Only a repository that is going to be updated with KDE SVN .. Right? Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 13:19:39 Ben Kevan wrote:
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:01:21 am Sven Burmeister wrote: So to get KDE 4.1, I have to add a repository that will also have svn versions of KDE .. when all I really want is the final release of KDE 4.1 (or stable releases like KDE 4.1.1) ..
So there is no way to get that? Only a repository that is going to be updated with KDE SVN .. Right?
Actually, I just installed KDE 4.1 today using the link to the YUM package on the SuSE website. http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 I hope that helps. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 20:39:19 schrieb Ben Kevan:
So to get KDE 4.1, I have to add a repository that will also have svn versions of KDE .. when all I really want is the final release of KDE 4.1 (or stable releases like KDE 4.1.1) ..
You seem to want to not understand it. But since most others do, that's ok. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Is there subpixel hinting enabled (or suppor) for KDE 4.1? The earlier
versions had subpixel hinting disabled due to a QT4 bug...I hope this
is taken care in this revision. I am still on 3.5.9 and holding for
the subpixel hinting implementation to jump ship :)
-Anshul
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Sven Burmeister
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 20:39:19 schrieb Ben Kevan:
So to get KDE 4.1, I have to add a repository that will also have svn versions of KDE .. when all I really want is the final release of KDE 4.1 (or stable releases like KDE 4.1.1) ..
You seem to want to not understand it. But since most others do, that's ok.
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On Wednesday 30 July 2008 02:57:31 am Anshul Jain wrote:
Is there subpixel hinting enabled (or suppor) for KDE 4.1? The earlier versions had subpixel hinting disabled due to a QT4 bug...I hope this is taken care in this revision. I am still on 3.5.9 and holding for the subpixel hinting implementation to jump ship :)
-Anshul
Anshul, What you have just done is to"highjack" a thread. (Write a new message to another older subject) No one will answer you. Send your request again as a new message witha proper heading. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 11:38:22 pm Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 20:39:19 schrieb Ben Kevan:
So to get KDE 4.1, I have to add a repository that will also have svn versions of KDE .. when all I really want is the final release of KDE 4.1 (or stable releases like KDE 4.1.1) ..
You seem to want to not understand it. But since most others do, that's ok.
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I am not sure what you are trying to say. I understand, I just don't know if I agree. The "Factory" will have the SVN builds (not only the stable releases of KDE) of the KDE version that will be released for the next version (ie 11.1). So if you have this repository, there is a potential that your packages will break due to "beta code" (say, they decided they were going to roll up 4.2 into 11.1, and started pushing 4.1.82 etc). Prior to 11.0 the KDE BuildService was just that.. KDE releases, but now they are more inline with openSUSE releases, which is the opposite of all other repositories. Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 30 July 2008, Ben Kevan wrote:
if I agree. The "Factory" will have the SVN builds (not only the stable releases of KDE) of the KDE version that will be released for the next version (ie 11.1).
it will contain whatever we want to have in 11.1. As this comes from a stable KDE branch, the amount of breakages you expect there should be minimal. Also, it does not contain SVN builds like you're assuming - those are in the UNSTABLE repository. Now, if you're really concerned about stability, then you're invited to use the STABLE repository, which does not change after an openSUSE release anymore except for bugfixes. Please read the wiki page: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Repositories and ask questions if something is not clear after that.
Prior to 11.0 the KDE BuildService was just that.. KDE releases, but now they are more inline with openSUSE releases, which is the opposite of all other repositories.
Not really. This is a minimal change in semantics that you'll see everywhere else as well. It is for example also implemented in the same way for GNOME, and it will be adopted by many other subprojects. Now, the reason for the change is that it allows others to easily contribute to our packages and to take a look at what we're going to ship for the next release. With the buildservice, everyone can branch off a package, fix it, and submit it back to us with minimum amount of work, so participation is really easy. On the other side putting that in an extra repository allows users to update to the Factory version just for one subsystem (for example KDE, kernel, X11), without risking the stability of the rest. Greetings, Dirk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hello, I can't find a Link that is working ? I hope I have in KDE 4.1 a German Kmail ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
I can't find a Link that is working ?
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4
I hope I have in KDE 4.1 a German Kmail ?
Yes, that bug was fixed. Greetings, Dirk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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