[opensuse-kde] Yakuake5
HI guys, I'd like to install Yakuake5 but it is available only in few home repo. Which is the status of the app ? Is it reliable enough ? Missing "kde 5" apps are (for my needs) Ktorrent that is taking shape, Yakuake and K3b. Any news about K3b ? Thanks ! Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 19:24:13 schrieb Daniele:
HI guys, I'd like to install Yakuake5 but it is available only in few home repo. Which is the status of the app ? Is it reliable enough ?
I haven't really used it myself much (not even using the KDE4 version myself), but it seems to work. Actually it just uses Konsole's KPart for the actual terminal window, and is just a different frontend to Konsole so to say.
Missing "kde 5" apps are (for my needs) Ktorrent that is taking shape, Yakuake and K3b. Any news about K3b ?
None of them have been released yet in a KF5 based version. That's the reason why they are not in the standard/"official" repos. They are in KDE:Unstable:Extra. But that's built against KDE:Unstable:Frameworks so the packages might not be installable with just the "stable" Frameworks5 packages. Worth a try though I guess. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
I have been using yakuake5 for some time... if you are happy with yakuake4 you will be happy with yakuake5. It shall be easy to built it against factory/troubleweed. Alin On Monday, 14 December 2015 19:52:36 GMT Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 19:24:13 schrieb Daniele:
HI guys, I'd like to install Yakuake5 but it is available only in few home repo. Which is the status of the app ? Is it reliable enough ?
I haven't really used it myself much (not even using the KDE4 version myself), but it seems to work.
Actually it just uses Konsole's KPart for the actual terminal window, and is just a different frontend to Konsole so to say.
Missing "kde 5" apps are (for my needs) Ktorrent that is taking shape, Yakuake and K3b. Any news about K3b ?
None of them have been released yet in a KF5 based version. That's the reason why they are not in the standard/"official" repos.
They are in KDE:Unstable:Extra. But that's built against KDE:Unstable:Frameworks so the packages might not be installable with just the "stable" Frameworks5 packages. Worth a try though I guess.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
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Il 14/12/2015 19:52, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto:
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 19:24:13 schrieb Daniele:
HI guys, I'd like to install Yakuake5 but it is available only in few home repo. Which is the status of the app ? Is it reliable enough ?
I haven't really used it myself much (not even using the KDE4 version myself), but it seems to work.
HI, installed Yakuake5 and konsole5-part.. no luck. Yakuake installed in /opt/kf5 and konsole5-parte in /opt /usr/lib and /usr/lib/qt5/plugins. 1) not in $PATH 2) does not start: "Unable to load skin..." Thanks. Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 20:18:40 schrieb Daniele:
HI, installed Yakuake5 and konsole5-part.. no luck. Yakuake installed in /opt/kf5 and konsole5-parte in /opt /usr/lib and /usr/lib/qt5/plugins.
1) not in $PATH 2) does not start: "Unable to load skin..."
And where from? The standard packages do not install to /opt/kf5/... If you used my repo (home:wolfi323:branches:KDE:Frameworks), you should install plasma5-session-envscript, that contains a shell script to setup the environment that it finds its stuff in /opt/kf5/. And use the menu entry to start it, otherwise you have to run /opt/kf5/share/env/kf5.sh manually first, unless you install the whole Plasma5 from my repo. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Il 14/12/2015 22:39, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto:
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 20:18:40 schrieb Daniele:
HI, installed Yakuake5 and konsole5-part.. no luck. Yakuake installed in /opt/kf5 and konsole5-parte in /opt /usr/lib and /usr/lib/qt5/plugins.
1) not in $PATH 2) does not start: "Unable to load skin..."
And where from? The standard packages do not install to /opt/kf5/...
If you used my repo (home:wolfi323:branches:KDE:Frameworks), you should install plasma5-session-envscript, that contains a shell script to setup the environment that it finds its stuff in /opt/kf5/.
And use the menu entry to start it, otherwise you have to run /opt/kf5/share/env/kf5.sh manually first, unless you install the whole Plasma5 from my repo.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
Oh yeah, from your repo. Why /opt on Leap ? I'm wrong or it only was a trick to install kf5 packages on 13.2 with kde4 ? Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 22:54:32 schrieb Daniele:
Oh yeah, from your repo. Why /opt on Leap ?
To make it possible to install it side-by-side with the KDE4 version of course. If you want a package that installs to /usr, use the one from the "official" repos, KDE:Unstable:Extra in this case. But as I wrote, this will replace the KDE4 version.
I'm wrong or it only was a trick to install kf5 packages on 13.2 with kde4 ?
It is a "trick" to prevent conflicts between KDE4 and KF5 versions of the same software, in principle unrelated to the distro version. You can install the standard KF5 packages on 13.2 too, there is no trick needed. But they will replace the corresponding KDE4 versions. And just to be clear here: the main purpose of my repo was (and is) to install the two desktops (KDE4's Plasma and Plasma5) side-by-side. I mainly added the applications because I wanted to try them as well and a desktop doesn't make much sense without applications anyway (although you can still use KDE4 based applications, GTK, or whatever, of course). It never was meant as addon repo for Plasma5 users to install additional KF5 based applications. For the latter there's KDE:Unstable:Extra e.g. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi,
Just to chip into the discussion with regards to KDE:Unstable:Extra
repository. This repository is build for multiple targets, which
includes also Leap 42.1 as a standard build target. We have one that
builds against openSUSE:Leap:42.1:Update and we have one that is build
against the KDE:Unstable:Frameworks for Leap 42.1.
Of course more packages will successfully build for the Unstable
Frameworks part as that some of the packages requires the latest
changes in the Framework branch. Looking at Yakuake5, we have this
build for openSUSE:13.2, openSUSE:Leap:42.1 (which is named
openSUSE_42.1), openSUSE:Tumbleweed and for the Unstable Framework
branches for these particular targets.
Regards
Raymond
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Wolfgang Bauer
Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2015, 22:54:32 schrieb Daniele:
Oh yeah, from your repo. Why /opt on Leap ?
To make it possible to install it side-by-side with the KDE4 version of course.
If you want a package that installs to /usr, use the one from the "official" repos, KDE:Unstable:Extra in this case. But as I wrote, this will replace the KDE4 version.
I'm wrong or it only was a trick to install kf5 packages on 13.2 with kde4 ?
It is a "trick" to prevent conflicts between KDE4 and KF5 versions of the same software, in principle unrelated to the distro version.
You can install the standard KF5 packages on 13.2 too, there is no trick needed. But they will replace the corresponding KDE4 versions.
And just to be clear here: the main purpose of my repo was (and is) to install the two desktops (KDE4's Plasma and Plasma5) side-by-side. I mainly added the applications because I wanted to try them as well and a desktop doesn't make much sense without applications anyway (although you can still use KDE4 based applications, GTK, or whatever, of course).
It never was meant as addon repo for Plasma5 users to install additional KF5 based applications. For the latter there's KDE:Unstable:Extra e.g.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
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Il 17/12/2015 13:58, Raymond Wooninck ha scritto:
Hi,
Just to chip into the discussion with regards to KDE:Unstable:Extra repository. This repository is build for multiple targets, which includes also Leap 42.1 as a standard build target. We have one that builds against openSUSE:Leap:42.1:Update and we have one that is build against the KDE:Unstable:Frameworks for Leap 42.1.
Yeah, installed yakuake from that repo and it is working fine ! I'm not sure now but I think that there is a missing dep for yakuake. First I've removed Yakuake5 and konsole5-part installed from Wolfgang repo. Then I've downloaded and installed yakuake5 with zypper but konsole5-part was not pulled in and zypper didn't complain about it.. Konsole-part is *required* by yakuake ! Thanks, Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2015, 18:01:07 schrieb Daniele:
First I've removed Yakuake5 and konsole5-part installed from Wolfgang repo. Then I've downloaded and installed yakuake5 with zypper but konsole5-part was not pulled in and zypper didn't complain about it.. Konsole-part is *required* by yakuake !
The yakuake5 package in KDE:Unstable:Extra does require konsole-part. It's only called konsole5-part in my repo, because the main package is konsole5 to make it co-installable with the KDE4 based konsole package. In other words, you need konsole-part for yakuake5, a konsole5-part doesn't exist (except in my repo). Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Il 17/12/2015 18:54, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2015, 18:01:07 schrieb Daniele:
First I've removed Yakuake5 and konsole5-part installed from Wolfgang repo. Then I've downloaded and installed yakuake5 with zypper but konsole5-part was not pulled in and zypper didn't complain about it.. Konsole-part is *required* by yakuake !
The yakuake5 package in KDE:Unstable:Extra does require konsole-part. It's only called konsole5-part in my repo, because the main package is konsole5 to make it co-installable with the KDE4 based konsole package.
In other words, you need konsole-part for yakuake5, a konsole5-part doesn't exist (except in my repo).
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
After installation it was not working, "missing konsole-part". So with zypper in yakuake5...rpm something is broken/missing.. Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2015, 19:01:51 schrieb Daniele:
After installation it was not working, "missing konsole-part". So with zypper in yakuake5...rpm something is broken/missing..
Then probably the cache was outdated. "kbuildsycoca5" should fix that, or it should fix itself eventually. The yakuake5 package in KDE:Unstable:Extra does require konsole-part, and konsole-part (not konsole5-part) is what you need. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 18. Dezember 2015, 13:20:34 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2015, 19:01:51 schrieb Daniele:
After installation it was not working, "missing konsole-part". So with zypper in yakuake5...rpm something is broken/missing..
Then probably the cache was outdated. "kbuildsycoca5" should fix that, or it should fix itself eventually.
The yakuake5 package in KDE:Unstable:Extra does require konsole-part, and konsole-part (not konsole5-part) is what you need.
PS: If you installed my konsole5-part on top of the standard konsole-part, it overwrote some files (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/konsolepart.so in particular). Uninstalling my package again would then completely remove that file, i.e. the actual konsole-part. So probably you need to reinstall konsole-part now, with "zypper in -f konsole-part", to fix it. I guess I'll add some conflict (or Obsolete) to my package to prevent a case like this... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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