2009/8/7 Martin Schlander :

It's currently under discussion which Phonon backend to use/install by default in openSUSE 11.2.

Phonon is the audio/video abstraction layer used by e.g. Amarok, KDE system notification sounds, and some other KDE applications to interface with the actual multimedia engines (xine, gstreamer).

In the previous releases phonon-backend-gstreamer was the default primarily because of the Fluendo codecs which provided MP3 support for gstreamer. But since Fluendo codecs will no longer be part of the distro this default is again open for discussion.

Many, many users have probably been switching to phonon-backend-xine for use with the libxine1 package from Packman in openSUSE 11.0 and 11.1.

So what do you think? The KDE team would like to know which backend you'd prefer in 11.2 and if either one is currently causing you major grief or giving you great pleasure.

If you're unsure which Phonon backend you're currently using, see systemsettings -> Sound (KDE 4.1) / Multimedia (KDE >=4.2) -> "Engine" tab.

Had no problems with neither of them, but I don't tested them in deep. Any know drawbacks of any of them (the phonon backends, not the libraries themself)? About xine/gstreamer themself: xine - Harder to create closed source codecs since the plugin interface can change between versions - Working DVD playback with menus. But it will not work with default openSUSE libxine. Not sure if this support can be used through Phonon. - Can use VfW/DirecShow (Windows) codecs... even if only on x86 (32 bits). In any case most of these codecs are already supported by ffmpeg. gstreamer - Easier to create closed source codecs... but that hasn't been translated in a DivX encoder/decoder or a CoreAVC plugin. Only Fluendo seems to produce closed source plugins and for formats that ffmpeg/libavcodec already decodes/encodes. - No DVD menu playback until recently. And even now I'm not sure it's possible without Fluendo 19.99€ plugin pack. - Better integrated with Gnome, would give a more "uniform" playback support. But I don't think too much people mixes multimedia apps from both desktops. - In theory can use VfW/DirecShow codecs... but Packman doesn't packages the needed plugin. In Packman both use the system version of ffmpeg libs, so format support should be basically the same. If you can't say anything important about the Phonon backends... both are fine to me, do whatever you think is better. P.S.: after the bad support from GStreamer in KDE3 apps (even worse because of the 0.8 -> 0.10 API change) I'm pretty sure Xine will get a lot more votes than GStreamer in any survey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Martin Schlander wrote:

It's currently under discussion which Phonon backend to use/install by default in openSUSE 11.2.

Phonon is the audio/video abstraction layer used by e.g. Amarok, KDE system notification sounds, and some other KDE applications to interface with the actual multimedia engines (xine, gstreamer).

In the previous releases phonon-backend-gstreamer was the default primarily because of the Fluendo codecs which provided MP3 support for gstreamer. But since Fluendo codecs will no longer be part of the distro this default is again open for discussion.

Many, many users have probably been switching to phonon-backend-xine for use with the libxine1 package from Packman in openSUSE 11.0 and 11.1.

So what do you think? The KDE team would like to know which backend you'd prefer in 11.2 and if either one is currently causing you major grief or giving you great pleasure.

If you're unsure which Phonon backend you're currently using, see systemsettings -> Sound (KDE 4.1) / Multimedia (KDE >=4.2) -> "Engine" tab.

I use the phonon-backen-xine. So I am able to use the Packman stuff for 11.1. So that is my preference. -- Boyd Gerber 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

It's currently under discussion which Phonon backend to use/install by default in openSUSE 11.2.

Phonon is the audio/video abstraction layer used by e.g. Amarok, KDE system notification sounds, and some other KDE applications to interface with the actual multimedia engines (xine, gstreamer).

In the previous releases phonon-backend-gstreamer was the default primarily because of the Fluendo codecs which provided MP3 support for gstreamer. But since Fluendo codecs will no longer be part of the distro this default is again open for discussion.

Many, many users have probably been switching to phonon-backend-xine for use with the libxine1 package from Packman in openSUSE 11.0 and 11.1.

So what do you think? The KDE team would like to know which backend you'd prefer in 11.2 and if either one is currently causing you major grief or giving you great pleasure.

If you're unsure which Phonon backend you're currently using, see systemsettings -> Sound (KDE 4.1) / Multimedia (KDE >=4.2) -> "Engine" tab. I've been using Xine from packman on my 11.1 and 11.2 systems with no major

On Friday 07 August 2009 07:12:35 am Martin Schlander wrote: problems 9after Milestone 2 on 11.1). My votes for Xine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org