[opensuse-kde] keyboard issues in kdm
Hi, I have noticed the following problem with kdm in openSUSE 11.4. In the login screen if I select Menu -> Shutdown either by clicking with the mouse or by pressing Alt-S a popup menu appears with the four options: Turn off, Restart, Suspend and Cancel. In order to choose an option, in 11.3 I can use the cursor and return keys or the Alt-key shortcuts (Alt-T, Alt-R, Alt-S, Alt-C) In 11.4 that doesn't work. The popup menu appears but you cannot make your choice with the keyboard, you are forced to use the mouse. Is this a bug or a misconfiguration? How to fix it? Also in 11.3 from the login screen if I want a console login I only need to press Alt-N and I get it. In 11.4 after I press Alt-N a popup menu appears and I need to press Alt-O in order to get the console login. That would not be so bad except that this last popup menu is also affected by the previous bug: the keyboard doesn't work. Actually if I first click on the background image and press Alt-N then the keyboard works and I can press Alt-O or Alr-C or Return or Esc in order to proceed. But if I click in the username or password field and press Alt-N then the keyboard is inactive and I can only proceed using the mouse. Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3? Giacomo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 04:22:07 Giacomo Comes napisał(a):
Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3?
[Ctrl [Alt [F2]]] HTH, Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:22:29PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 04:22:07 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3?
[Ctrl [Alt [F2]]]
Switching virtual terminal is not the same as selecting console login from the login screen. Also for me switching virtual terminal with Ctrl Alt Fn is not always possible because I often run 11.4 in a virtual machine and that key combination just make me switch to the virtual console of the main host. Giacomo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 15:56:18 Giacomo Comes napisał(a):
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:22:29PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 04:22:07 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3?
[Ctrl [Alt [F2]]]
Switching virtual terminal is not the same as selecting console login from the login screen. Also for me switching virtual terminal with Ctrl Alt Fn is not always possible because I often run 11.4 in a virtual machine and that key combination just make me switch to the virtual console of the main host.
The virtual console should give you a way to pass any key events to the client. qemu has sendkeys or something. Or just start with runlevel 3. HTH, Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 04:34:33PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 15:56:18 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:22:29PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 04:22:07 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3?
[Ctrl [Alt [F2]]]
Switching virtual terminal is not the same as selecting console login from the login screen. Also for me switching virtual terminal with Ctrl Alt Fn is not always possible because I often run 11.4 in a virtual machine and that key combination just make me switch to the virtual console of the main host.
The virtual console should give you a way to pass any key events to the client. qemu has sendkeys or something.
Crtl-Alt-2 (switch to qemu monitor) sendkey Ctrl-Alt-F1 (switch to VT1, not visible because I'm on the qemu monitor window) Crtl-Alt-1 (should switch back to the guest console, but it doesn't work because Crtl-Alt-1 is a key sequence used by my window manager) By the way, if I have to type all this to get to the console, then it's faster to use the mouse. And what I want is a fast way to get the console, as it was in 11.3. Giacomo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 16:51:58 Giacomo Comes napisał(a):
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 04:34:33PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 15:56:18 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:22:29PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 04:22:07 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3?
[Ctrl [Alt [F2]]]
Switching virtual terminal is not the same as selecting console login from the login screen. Also for me switching virtual terminal with Ctrl Alt Fn is not always possible because I often run 11.4 in a virtual machine and that key combination just make me switch to the virtual console of the main host.
The virtual console should give you a way to pass any key events to the client. qemu has sendkeys or something.
Crtl-Alt-2 (switch to qemu monitor) sendkey Ctrl-Alt-F1 (switch to VT1, not visible because I'm on the qemu monitor window) Crtl-Alt-1 (should switch back to the guest console, but it doesn't work because Crtl-Alt-1 is a key sequence used by my window manager)
You can tell QEMU to switch by typing a command.
By the way, if I have to type all this to get to the console, then it's faster to use the mouse. And what I want is a fast way to get the console, as it was in 11.3.
I thought you have no pointing device at all. I agree that support keyboard-driven control is very poor in KDE. I tried using the keyboard only and there are many things you just cannot do so I gave up (for now d8-O). It helps to have a keyboard with a [Menu] key but not every keyboard has it. Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 10:52:05AM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 16:51:58 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 04:34:33PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 15:56:18 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:22:29PM +0200, K?i?tof ?elechovski wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 7 kwietnia 2011 o 04:22:07 Giacomo Comes napisa?(a):
Is there a way to disable this last popup menu and go to the console login after only pressing Alt-N as it was in 11.3?
[Ctrl [Alt [F2]]]
Switching virtual terminal is not the same as selecting console login from the login screen. Also for me switching virtual terminal with Ctrl Alt Fn is not always possible because I often run 11.4 in a virtual machine and that key combination just make me switch to the virtual console of the main host.
The virtual console should give you a way to pass any key events to the client. qemu has sendkeys or something.
Crtl-Alt-2 (switch to qemu monitor) sendkey Ctrl-Alt-F1 (switch to VT1, not visible because I'm on the qemu monitor window) Crtl-Alt-1 (should switch back to the guest console, but it doesn't work because Crtl-Alt-1 is a key sequence used by my window manager)
You can tell QEMU to switch by typing a command.
By the way, if I have to type all this to get to the console, then it's faster to use the mouse. And what I want is a fast way to get the console, as it was in 11.3.
I thought you have no pointing device at all.
I agree that support keyboard-driven control is very poor in KDE. I tried using the keyboard only and there are many things you just cannot do so I gave up (for now d8-O). It helps to have a keyboard with a [Menu] key but not every keyboard has it.
My point was not about poor keyboard-driven control in KDE. I was reporting that something (keyboard related) that was working in 11.3 is not working anymore in 11.4. And while I am at it, here is another one. In KDE I use the Classic Menu Style launcher (simplelauncher) In 11.3 in order to shutdown the computer this key sequence will do it: Alt-F1 (launcher menu) Alt-L (Leave submenu) Alt-U (Select shutdown) Alt-T (confirm shutdown) In 11.4: Alt-F1 (launcher menu) works Alt-L (Leave submenu) works Alt-D (Select shutdown) doesn't work Alt-T (confirm shutdown) The shortcut to select the shutdown has changed, (Alt-D instead of Alt-U) but none of them works. The funny thing is that all the other shortcut in the Leave submenu still works: Alt-R (restart), Alt-H (hibernate), Alt-E (sleep), etc. Is there any hope to see these keyboard related regressions fixed with an update in 11.4? Giacomo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, April 08, 2011 08:35:37 Giacomo Comes wrote:
The shortcut to select the shutdown has changed, (Alt-D instead of Alt-U) but none of them works.
have you tried without using the Alt- ? sc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:39:40AM -0500, sc wrote:
On Friday, April 08, 2011 08:35:37 Giacomo Comes wrote:
The shortcut to select the shutdown has changed, (Alt-D instead of Alt-U) but none of them works.
have you tried without using the Alt- ?
Bingo. It works. By the way it is still a bug if it works pressing only d instead of Alt-D isn't it? Giacomo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, April 08, 2011 09:51:28 Giacomo Comes wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:39:40AM -0500, sc wrote:
On Friday, April 08, 2011 08:35:37 Giacomo Comes wrote:
The shortcut to select the shutdown has changed, (Alt-D instead of Alt-U) but none of them works.
have you tried without using the Alt- ?
Bingo. It works. By the way it is still a bug if it works pressing only d instead of Alt-D isn't it?
i don't consider it one -- i was taught early on that when a window or menu has focus and there are no edit boxes or text areas the appropriate action keys are un-modified -- there is no ambiguity sc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 12:14:39PM -0500, sc wrote:
On Friday, April 08, 2011 09:51:28 Giacomo Comes wrote:
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:39:40AM -0500, sc wrote:
On Friday, April 08, 2011 08:35:37 Giacomo Comes wrote:
The shortcut to select the shutdown has changed, (Alt-D instead of Alt-U) but none of them works.
have you tried without using the Alt- ?
Bingo. It works. By the way it is still a bug if it works pressing only d instead of Alt-D isn't it?
i don't consider it one -- i was taught early on that when a window or menu has focus and there are no edit boxes or text areas the appropriate action keys are un-modified -- there is no ambiguity
That I understand. However, in the leave submenu the other shortcuts work both with and without modifier. It's only the Shutdown option that doesn't work with the modifier. So either all should work with the modifier or all should not work with the modifier. Mixing stuff can only confuse users. Giacomo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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