Hi all, Since we are on the discussion of new users asking questions on the list, let's make some suggestions on how to do it without getting your head chopped off! ;-) I know many more users are moving over to Linux now and that's a good thing, but everybody is going to need help sometime, even the more experienced "newbies" on the list. All of us will have questions from time to time, but it only means we are all still learning. That is good. What we need, I suppose, is a way to distinguish the differences between the very new and the not so new. It was suggested sometime back by someone on the main list, I believe, that a very new user specify in the subject, "Newbie alert", so the old guys/girls, well I mean old linux guys/girls, no that doesn't sound right either, well you get my drift, would know your level before answering a question. ;-) That way most here will know how to approach the user with the answers to their questions. Many new users don't know immediately that these lists are here or where to look for answers or even what questions to ask right away. You'll find that many here realize that when they know your level, so they can guide you to the correct places to look. It's just a matter of knowing a little about the questioner, so those people are able to offer help, can. Help us and we'll help you. Lee -- --- KMail v1.8.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes