Sorry if I offended. It's true though, and not FUD, I have had to switch from Fedora to OpenSUSE because plasma keeps crashing. It's completely unstable. Just look at the bugzillas. I am finally doing it now, and was looking into seeing how long I would have. As far as "playing at work" I use Linux as my primary box... when I upgraded to latest version of Fedora, Plasma5/KF5 kept crashing keeping me from doing my work. THis is why I moved to OpenSUSE 13.2. I can deal with cosmetic differences, not, however, crashing all over. It's not FUD, it's a matter of usability. On 2016-01-13, 9:31, "Patrick Shanahan" wrote:

ps: don't understand your spreading of FUD when requesting information.

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I apologize again, I look forward to SUSE and KDE4. I will attempt KDE5/KF5 in the future when 13.2 goes out of support. On 2016-01-13, 9:49, "Patrick Shanahan" wrote:

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Sorry if I offended. It's true though, and not FUD, I have had to switch from Fedora to OpenSUSE because plasma keeps crashing. It's completely unstable. Just look at the bugzillas. I am finally doing it now, and was looking into seeing how long I would have.

As far as "playing at work" I use Linux as my primary box... when I upgraded to latest version of Fedora, Plasma5/KF5 kept crashing keeping me from doing my work. THis is why I moved to OpenSUSE 13.2. I can deal with cosmetic differences, not, however, crashing all over. It's not FUD, it's a matter of usability.

On 2016-01-13, 9:31, "Patrick Shanahan" wrote:

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ps: don't understand your spreading of FUD when requesting information.

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You switched from Fedora to openSUSE because plasma keeps crashing. "It's completely unstable." Is or was, on openSUSE or on Fedore or both?

"I am finally doing..." "it" ?? switching to openSUSE

Realize that kde/plasma crashing on Fedora is not an indication that kde/plasma is unstable but that Fedora's distro is.

So in the context you have presented, it is FUD!

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Also, please don't jump all over me... I am just relaying my frustrations and experiences with plasma5/kf5 (and *just* the crashing part, not the cosmetic part - e.g.: not being able to set the date the way you want to - missing KLocale?). Perhaps it's my hardware, or whatever, HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF, i5, i915. I have been coding in QT and using KDE since 1998, so it is not as if I am new to these difficulties. On 2016-01-13, 10:21, "Anton Aylward" wrote:

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I apologize again, I look forward to SUSE and KDE4.

In many ways you post made no sense. The (b)leading edge of Suse is LEAP and that use KDE5/plasma as well. If you weretalking about the (b)leading edge of Redta then of course it will be using KDE5/plama.

Looking forward to a version of Suse that uses a stable and proven KD4 is about the same as looking at a version of Redhat (or Mandriva or CentOS) that uses KDE4 as its baseline.

Heck, even if you installed using the Gnome DM you can always install KDE4.

Betcha if you run LEAP you could too!

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On 01/13/2016 11:59 AM, ianseeks wrote:

Best practice is never to upgrade to any bleeding edge system on a work machine, always be a release or 2 behind but up to date with patches.

+BIGNUM (start with Avogadro and go up from there)

Bleeding edge is only for those who don't care if their system crashes and burns because it a test system.

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