On 03/05/14 12:05, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

On Saturday 03 May 2014 08:44:09 Hans de Faber wrote:

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Hello everybody, Hi Hans!

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To my opinion it would be nice if there where in the configuration of baloo 2 selection buttons.

1 Start on boot 2 Run once and exit What problem do you have or want to solve, Hans?

1. Start on boot could not work, search is user-specific so it only works after logging in... And it always runs if enabled, and does not run if disabled. (you disable it by adding your homefolder to the 'do not index' list - there's nothing to index so it won't start).

2. Run once and exit Run once and then do what? Search is always there so you can use it - if it would not run, you can't search. I guess you mean the indexing, you want to quit after indexing everything? Then it would not see any changes and give 'old' results when you search. Why would you want that?

If you don't want it to use power when you are on battery, that is already done: search won't index anything other than the file name (which is so fast it really takes no power) when you are on battery power.

Perhaps you can explain what problem you have, so we can see what solution would work best?

Sorry for the hard questions, but the developers do not want to add more complexity unless there is a problem that is solved by the extra code ;-)

Cheers, Jos

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Thanks, Hans

Most of the time I don't need an indexer,i want a >>>simple<<< way to switch it on and off. (This is no problem or additional complexity, maybe a present for christmas.)

To my opinion it would be nice if there where in the configuration of baloo 2 selection buttons.

1 Start on login (if not selected don't start) 2 Run once and exit ( if i am looking sor something i cant find.) Cheers, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 3 May 2014 12:40:39 Hans de Faber wrote:

[...] Most of the time I don't need an indexer,i want a >>>simple<<< way to switch it on and off. (This is no problem or additional complexity, maybe a present for christmas.)

Add the KDE Extra Unstable repository for openSuSE 13.1... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/openSUSE_13.1... ...and install the "baloo kcm" package. It adds a "Desktop Search - Advanced" item to "Configure Desktop" and gives you much finer grained control, including the ability to switch it on and off with a simple checkbox. Almost like nepomuk's old control panel. :) Yes, it is still under development and it is not (yet) part of the official repositories but IMHO it should be pushed upstream. Kudos to the developer who contributed this - it should really have been part of the baloo package from day 1. It also adds the ability to tell baloo exactly what extra directories to index, not just what to exclude. Negative AND positive control. Much better. :) -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Saturday 03 May 2014 14:11:13 Hans de Faber wrote:

On 03/05/14 13:45, Rodney Baker wrote:

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On Sat, 3 May 2014 12:40:39 Hans de Faber wrote:

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[...] Most of the time I don't need an indexer,i want a >>>simple<<< way to switch it on and off. (This is no problem or additional complexity, maybe a present for christmas.)

Add the KDE Extra Unstable repository for openSuSE 13.1...

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/openSUSE_1 3.1/

...and install the "baloo kcm" package. It adds a "Desktop Search - Advanced" item to "Configure Desktop" and gives you much finer grained control, including the ability to switch it on and off with a simple checkbox. Almost like nepomuk's old control panel. :)

Yes, it is still under development and it is not (yet) part of the official repositories but IMHO it should be pushed upstream. Kudos to the developer who contributed this - it should really have been part of the baloo package from day 1.

It also adds the ability to tell baloo exactly what extra directories to index, not just what to exclude. Negative AND positive control. Much better.> :)

Great thats it: SOLVE THE RIGHT PROBLEM !!!!

I still would love to hear what exactly your problem was, see other mail ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/07/2014 06:28 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

On Wednesday 07 May 2014 18:26:48 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Saturday 03 May 2014 14:11:13 Hans de Faber wrote:

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On 03/05/14 13:45, Rodney Baker wrote:

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On Sat, 3 May 2014 12:40:39 Hans de Faber wrote:

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[...] Most of the time I don't need an indexer,i want a >>>simple<<< way to switch it on and off. (This is no problem or additional complexity, maybe a present for christmas.)

Add the KDE Extra Unstable repository for openSuSE 13.1...

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/openSUSE _1 3.1/

...and install the "baloo kcm" package. It adds a "Desktop Search - Advanced" item to "Configure Desktop" and gives you much finer grained control, including the ability to switch it on and off with a simple checkbox. Almost like nepomuk's old control panel. :)

Yes, it is still under development and it is not (yet) part of the official repositories but IMHO it should be pushed upstream. Kudos to the developer who contributed this - it should really have been part of the baloo package from day 1.

It also adds the ability to tell baloo exactly what extra directories to index, not just what to exclude. Negative AND positive control. Much better.>

:)

Great thats it: SOLVE THE RIGHT PROBLEM !!!!

I still would love to hear what exactly your problem was, see other mail ;-)

(I ask in part because I suspect some 'voodo configuration' to happen: people disable the indexing to 'save resources' and enabling it only when they want to search - which is pointless, as it is automatically disabled when there is nothing to index so they save exactly nothing)

I suppose the problem is becouse baloo is experimental and sometimes it sucks resources so you want to stop indexing, that is very easy to do pushing a button than add or remove a folder that you would like to index later when the pc is idle, not to search..:-) :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/03/2014 07:45 AM, Rodney Baker wrote:

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On Sat, 3 May 2014 12:40:39 Hans de Faber wrote:

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[...] Most of the time I don't need an indexer,i want a >>>simple<<< way to switch it on and off. (This is no problem or additional complexity, maybe a present for christmas.)

Add the KDE Extra Unstable repository for openSuSE 13.1...

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/openSUSE_1 3.1/

...and install the "baloo kcm" package. It adds a "Desktop Search - Advanced" item to "Configure Desktop" and gives you much finer grained control, including the ability to switch it on and off with a simple checkbox. Almost like nepomuk's old control panel. :)

Yes, it is still under development and it is not (yet) part of the official repositories but IMHO it should be pushed upstream. Kudos to the developer who contributed this - it should really have been part of the baloo package from day 1.

It also adds the ability to tell baloo exactly what extra directories to index, not just what to exclude. Negative AND positive control. Much better.> :)

Yes, much better!

I do have a usability question.

The 'file manager' mode of Konqueror seems to be 'embedded dolphin'. If you don't have dolphin installed then the file manager mode of Konq doesn't work. But there doesn't seem to be the search facility on the interface available with Konqueror. Am I missing something?

While on the 'Am I missing something' tack ... Using dolphin, the search seems to be simply by keyword. I tried indexing my ~/Documents and I'm finding this useless because its overwhelming. Is there some kind of boolean search or the kind of search many fill text databases have where you can say things like

<keyword> in the same paragraph as <another keyword>

or similar expression such as "within 100 words of", "on the same page as"or other things I've encountered in commercial whole text software and databases. It will probably technically be possible, but afaiks dolphin lacks the UI for

On Saturday 03 May 2014 11:14:28 Anton Aylward wrote: this. I think it should order the results based on how close the words are that you enter, how about that. Hmmm, that's actually worth a feature request... Let me mail Peter :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/03/2014 12:10 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:

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It also adds the ability to tell baloo exactly what extra directories to index, not just what to exclude. Negative AND positive control. Much better. :)

yes, I tried it and it works well...:-) :-) :-) :-)

I'm not sure. I had baloo installed and it seems it was running, before I installed and configured that. I'm convinced it has all of /home/anton already indexed. Suppose I want ONLY /home/anton/Documents indexed? I can set that up with the kcm. Good. But does that mean everything else under /home/anton gets removed ? The evidence I have so far seems not. I'll post more on this and my experimentation this evening when I get back. This is a "Jane's Walk" weekend here in Toronto. (And other cities.) -- IOException: Jovian moons misaligned. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Saturday, May 03, 2014 09:15:02 PM Rodney Baker wrote:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/openSUS E_13.1/ I just went to the above rpo with YaST and my browser. There are no Baloo packages that show up. Was it possibly removed?

Thanks Russ -- openSUSE 13.1(Linux 3.11.10-7-desktop x86_64| Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz|8GB DDR3| GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.67)|KDE 4.13.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 3 May 2014 20:51:24 Yamaban wrote:

On Sat, 3 May 2014 20:40, upscope wrote:

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On Saturday, May 03, 2014 09:15:02 PM Rodney Baker wrote:

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http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/openSUS E_13.1/ I just went to the above rpo with YaST and my browser. There are no Baloo packages that show up. Was it possibly removed?

Hmm, looking at this:

http://software.opensuse.org/package/baloo_kcm

The packages are there, under "Unsupported distributions" -> 13.1

Direct DL link: i586:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/KDE_Current_o...

x86_64:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Extra/KDE_Current_o...

- Yamaban.

Yes, thanks, I pointed to the wrong repo - I missed the "KDE_Current_openSUSE_13.1" part. Sorry for the misdirection. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org