[opensuse-kde] FYI: 13.2 and 42.1 support will be dropped in most KDE: repositories, other reorganizations
Hello, in an effort to save build power and reorganize repositories where it makes sense, we're removing support for 13.2 in the KDE: repositories. This is due to the fact that 13.2 is now EOL'd and the base system is so old that it's difficult to get new dependencies there. For a similar reason we're removing support for Leap 42.1 from KDE:Applications and KDE:Frameworks5 (and the :Unstable equivalents). The same caveats apply there. 42.1 users will still be able to use the LTS variants of Plasma and Frameworks at KDE:Frameworks5:LTS. Support for 42.1 will remain in KDE:Extra, because the dependencies are less strict there. Lastly, KDE:Applications for Leap 42.2 will be adjusted in a way that it will *require* KDE:Frameworks5 to be present. The reasoning is that otherwise it will be impossible to build some parts of the stack (PIM in particular) with the 42.2 base. These changes will go into effect this weekend. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On mercredi, 8 février 2017 08.25:25 h CET Luca Beltrame wrote:
Hello,
in an effort to save build power and reorganize repositories where it makes sense, we're removing support for 13.2 in the KDE: repositories. This is due to the fact that 13.2 is now EOL'd and the base system is so old that it's difficult to get new dependencies there.
For a similar reason we're removing support for Leap 42.1 from KDE:Applications and KDE:Frameworks5 (and the :Unstable equivalents). The same caveats apply there. 42.1 users will still be able to use the LTS variants of Plasma and Frameworks at KDE:Frameworks5:LTS.
Support for 42.1 will remain in KDE:Extra, because the dependencies are less strict there.
Lastly, KDE:Applications for Leap 42.2 will be adjusted in a way that it will *require* KDE:Frameworks5 to be present. The reasoning is that otherwise it will be impossible to build some parts of the stack (PIM in particular) with the 42.2 base.
These changes will go into effect this weekend.
but but but I'm working this weekend, I can't upgrade my wife's 42.1 :-) Thanks for the annoncement, the hardwork, and beat that Neon's ;-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data mercoledì 8 febbraio 2017 08:25:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
These changes will go into effect this weekend.
Part of the changes has taken effect: 1. 13.2 and 42.1 are no longer offered for KDE:* repositories 2. Users of KDE:Applications with Leap 42.2 *MUST* now add KDE:Frameworks5 and use the KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2 repository of KDE:Applications. 3. Leap 42.1 was removed from KDE:Unstable:* I'll go over KDE:Extra later tomorrow to clean up more repositories (13.1 and 13.2 mainly). If you want them kept speak up *now*. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B
Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2017, 00:24:24 CET schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data mercoledì 8 febbraio 2017 08:25:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
These changes will go into effect this weekend.
Part of the changes has taken effect:
1. 13.2 and 42.1 are no longer offered for KDE:* repositories 2. Users of KDE:Applications with Leap 42.2 *MUST* now add KDE:Frameworks5 and use the KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2 repository of KDE:Applications. 3. Leap 42.1 was removed from KDE:Unstable:*
I'll go over KDE:Extra later tomorrow to clean up more repositories (13.1 and 13.2 mainly). If you want them kept speak up *now*.
Which QT do i need for these on 42.2? and the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 isn't available (yet). That being said, a KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repo in KDE:Extras would be nice... cheers Mathias -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2017, 10:15:07 CET schrieb Mathias Homann:
Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2017, 00:24:24 CET schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data mercoledì 8 febbraio 2017 08:25:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
These changes will go into effect this weekend.
Part of the changes has taken effect:
1. 13.2 and 42.1 are no longer offered for KDE:* repositories 2. Users of KDE:Applications with Leap 42.2 *MUST* now add KDE:Frameworks5 and use the KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2 repository of KDE:Applications. 3. Leap 42.1 was removed from KDE:Unstable:*
I'll go over KDE:Extra later tomorrow to clean up more repositories (13.1 and 13.2 mainly). If you want them kept speak up *now*.
Which QT do i need for these on 42.2?
You need KDE:Qt5 for the KDE:Frameworks5 repo, see https://en.opensuse.org/ SDB:KDE_repositories which did not change due to the recent changes. (If you want to double check that the information there is correct you can have a look at the Meta tab of the KDE:Frameworks5 repo in OBS which is a bit technical but quite self-explanatory IMHO -> https://build.opensuse.org/ project/meta/KDE:Frameworks5 .... <repository name="openSUSE_Leap_42.2" rebuild="direct" block="local"> <path project="KDE:Qt5" repository="openSUSE_Leap_42.2"/> <arch>x86_64</arch> </repository> .... Regards Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On zondag 12 februari 2017 10:15:07 CET Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2017, 00:24:24 CET schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data mercoledì 8 febbraio 2017 08:25:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
These changes will go into effect this weekend.
Part of the changes has taken effect:
1. 13.2 and 42.1 are no longer offered for KDE:* repositories 2. Users of KDE:Applications with Leap 42.2 *MUST* now add KDE:Frameworks5 and use the KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42.2 repository of KDE:Applications. 3. Leap 42.1 was removed from KDE:Unstable:*
I'll go over KDE:Extra later tomorrow to clean up more repositories (13.1 and 13.2 mainly). If you want them kept speak up *now*.
Which QT do i need for these on 42.2? and the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 isn't available (yet).
That being said, a KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repo in KDE:Extras would be nice...
cheers Mathias
Hello, When will the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repository become available? Regards, Erwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 12:26:19 CET, Erwin Lam ha scritto:
When will the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repository become available?
I enabled publishing earlier this morning, so it should be available soon. Note, KDE PIM is still not present as it needs adjustments due to some packages in the base distro being too old. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B
On 02/13/2017 06:34 AM, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 12:26:19 CET, Erwin Lam ha scritto:
When will the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repository become available? I enabled publishing earlier this morning, so it should be available soon. Note, KDE PIM is still not present as it needs adjustments due to some packages in the base distro being too old.
Thanks -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes _.._ _ ."\__/"./`_\ _/__<__>__\/ jgs `"/_/""""\_\\ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Luca Beltrame a következőt írta ekkor: 2017. február 13., hétfő 12:34:24 CET
In data lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 12:26:19 CET, Erwin Lam ha scritto:
When will the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repository become available?
I enabled publishing earlier this morning, so it should be available soon. Note, KDE PIM is still not present as it needs adjustments due to some packages in the base distro being too old.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but: that means if I enable and update from this new repo I will have a broken system, because akonadi-server will be replaced by a newer (16.12) version however kmail5 stays on version 16.08. I'm a (heavy) kmail user and when I tried this update I had to undo the update in yast to fix this. IMHO this repo enablement was a little bit early. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2017, 09:03:20 CET schrieb Kapcsándi István:
Luca Beltrame a következőt írta ekkor: 2017. február 13., hétfő 12:34:24 CET
In data lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 12:26:19 CET, Erwin Lam ha scritto:
When will the KDE:Applications KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repository become available?
I enabled publishing earlier this morning, so it should be available soon. Note, KDE PIM is still not present as it needs adjustments due to some packages in the base distro being too old.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but: that means if I enable and update from this new repo I will have a broken system, because akonadi-server will be replaced by a newer (16.12) version however kmail5 stays on version 16.08. I'm a (heavy) kmail user and when I tried this update I had to undo the update in yast to fix this. IMHO this repo enablement was a little bit early.
what it actually means right now is that because of one package in K:F5 not building for 42.2 (gpgmepp) you will end up with either a horrible mixup that will break all kind of things in all kind of ways, or with pretty much all of KDEPIM uninstalled due to missing dependencies that can't be filled anymore. NOT good. NOT fun. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:20:56 CET, Mathias Homann ha scritto:
NOT good. NOT fun.
Note that such messages aren't helpful in fixing the issue faster, in fact they do not help at all. In fact, they're pretty demotivating. My time for this is pretty limited, and these things reduce even more the willingness to spend what I have. The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2017, 09:31:25 CET schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:20:56 CET, Mathias Homann ha scritto:
The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet.
it fails to build because the build fails to start a gpg agent to verify keys. I don't know what to do about it either... I've branched the package, if I can figure something out I'll send you a push for it. Doesn't really help that googling for "buildservice gpg" results in thousands of results talking about gpg keys of obs repos... Cheers M -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:31:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet.
Hacked it around, most of the stuff is built. There are some other bits not yet building, but we're getting there. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
[ Comments below, in-line ] On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:54:41 +0100, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:31:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet.
Hacked it around, most of the stuff is built. There are some other bits not yet building, but we're getting there.
Hi Luca, I realize you mostly must hear complaints. However for seasoned people like myself (read as: old farts), we understand there's a lot of work that goes into making things run smoothly. With that thank you for the hard work! Cheers, -- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph: 819.459.1926 iNum: 883.5100.0990.1054 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2017, 17:54:41 CET schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:31:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet.
Hacked it around, most of the stuff is built. There are some other bits not yet building, but we're getting there.
what's your favorite beer? oh, and a delivery address for some of it? -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
[ Comments below, in-line ] On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:40:56 +0100, Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2017, 17:54:41 CET schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:31:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet.
Hacked it around, most of the stuff is built. There are some other bits not yet building, but we're getting there.
what's your favorite beer? oh, and a delivery address for some of it?
I'll chip in for some beer for Luca (or a tasty beverage). @Mathias: if you send me a paypal link, I'll send you some $'s. :) -- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph: 819.459.1926 iNum: 883.5100.0990.1054 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Luca Beltrame a következőt írta ekkor: 2017. február 19., vasárnap 17:54:41 CET
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2017 09:31:25 CET, Luca Beltrame ha scritto:
The build failure is (to me) unexplainable because the exact same package builds for Leap in other repositories and I haven't found a solution / reason for it yet.
Hacked it around, most of the stuff is built. There are some other bits not yet building, but we're getting there. Thank you for your effort and work, I can report that after an update kmail shines again. Thanks a lot! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2017, 10:15:07 schrieb Mathias Homann:
That being said, a KDE_Frameworks5_openSUSE_Leap_42 repo in KDE:Extras would be nice...
I agree that we should do this. There are problems with using KDE:Applications on 42.2 currently. I am aware of these: - digikam crashes with the newer marble if trying to use the geolocation features (and as the crash is in libmarbleqidget, it likely affects other applications that use libKF5KGeoMap5 as well, like kphotoalbum) - kipi-plugins don't work with the newer libkipi (there are even bug reports for both issues) Also, calibre is uninstallable with the newer Qt5, as it uses private headers. So maybe we should add a link to KDE:Extra too then (for 42.2)... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data martedì 21 febbraio 2017 15:27:24 CET, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto:
Also, calibre is uninstallable with the newer Qt5, as it uses private headers. So maybe we should add a link to KDE:Extra too then (for 42.2)...
I agree, I'll try to get it done next weekend if no one else beats me to it. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B
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