[opensuse-kde] upnp and kdelibs

todd rme

12 Apr 2012 12 Apr '12

09:13

I notice that kdelibs4 has support for upnp media streaming disabled. This done by a flag saying kdelibs4 is not gplv3 compatible, which blocks the herqq-devel (aka hupnp) dependency needed by KDE for upnp support. I assume this is referring to LGPLv3, the license of the herqq (hupnp) library that is disabled. Being unfamiliar with copyright law, I was wondering what is still preventing this and what could be done to rectify the situation. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

12 Apr 12 Apr

12:15

* todd rme [04-12-12 05:16]:

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I notice that kdelibs4 has support for upnp media streaming disabled. This done by a flag saying kdelibs4 is not gplv3 compatible, which blocks the herqq-devel (aka hupnp) dependency needed by KDE for upnp support. I assume this is referring to LGPLv3, the license of the herqq (hupnp) library that is disabled. Being unfamiliar with copyright law, I was wondering what is still preventing this and what could be done to rectify the situation.

upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

todd rme

13 Apr 13 Apr

12:05

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* todd rme [04-12-12 05:16]:

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I notice that kdelibs4 has support for upnp media streaming disabled. This done by a flag saying kdelibs4 is not gplv3 compatible, which blocks the herqq-devel (aka hupnp) dependency needed by KDE for upnp support. I assume this is referring to LGPLv3, the license of the herqq (hupnp) library that is disabled. Being unfamiliar with copyright law, I was wondering what is still preventing this and what could be done to rectify the situation.

upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files.

That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo like multimedia:libs? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

12:17

* todd rme [04-13-12 08:06]:

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files.

That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo like multimedia:libs?

You might ask the owner of "home:buschmann23". I don't know if he reads here. btw: xbmc also provides upnp interface. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

todd rme

12:34

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* todd rme [04-13-12 08:06]:

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files.

That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo like multimedia:libs?

You might ask the owner of "home:buschmann23". I don't know if he reads here.

btw: xbmc also provides upnp interface.

I know. The issue here is KDE's built-in upnp client, which is currently disabled in openSUSE. I am trying to figure out how to enable it. upnp servers are an entire different issue. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Tejas Guruswamy

18 Jun 18 Jun

09:09

On 13/04/12 13:34, todd rme wrote:

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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* todd rme [04-13-12 08:06]:

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upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files. That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: like multimedia:libs? You might ask the owner of "home:buschmann23". I don't know if he reads here.

btw: xbmc also provides upnp interface. I know. The issue here is KDE's built-in upnp client, which is currently disabled in openSUSE. I am trying to figure out how to enable it. upnp servers are an entire different issue.

-Todd

I notice you were successful in enabling this support, since then these two bugs have been driving me crazy: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259472 (Kde apps crashes at one time with similar backtrace - perhaps it's connected with Upnp) <- nasty crash bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259377 (Disable showing of upnp devices in Dolphin 'Places' panel and Device notifier) but noone upstream seems to be interested in maintenance of the upnp components. Can we disable it again unless someone takes responsibility? Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Vadym Krevs

19 Jun 19 Jun

09:58

On Mon 18 Jun 2012 10:09:39 BST, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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On 13/04/12 13:34, todd rme wrote:

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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* todd rme [04-13-12 08:06]:

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upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files. That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: like multimedia:libs? You might ask the owner of "home:buschmann23". I don't know if he reads here.

btw: xbmc also provides upnp interface. I know. The issue here is KDE's built-in upnp client, which is currently disabled in openSUSE. I am trying to figure out how to enable it. upnp servers are an entire different issue.

-Todd

I notice you were successful in enabling this support, since then these two bugs have been driving me crazy:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259472 (Kde apps crashes at one time with similar backtrace - perhaps it's connected with Upnp) <- nasty crash bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259377 (Disable showing of upnp devices in Dolphin 'Places' panel and Device notifier)

but noone upstream seems to be interested in maintenance of the upnp components. Can we disable it again unless someone takes responsibility?

Tejas

Since the latest KDE update from OBS, lots of KDE apps crash in /usr/lib64/libHUpnp.so.1.0.0 on a regular basis. The iptables workaround from the bugzilla reports does not work. Does anyone know how to build a custom version of libkde4 that does not depend on libHUpnp1-1.0.0? -- Regards, Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Vadym Krevs

13:08

On 19/06/12 10:58, Vadym Krevs wrote:

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On Mon 18 Jun 2012 10:09:39 BST, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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On 13/04/12 13:34, todd rme wrote:

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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* todd rme [04-13-12 08:06]:

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upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=minidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files. That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: like multimedia:libs? You might ask the owner of "home:buschmann23". I don't know if he reads here.

btw: xbmc also provides upnp interface. I know. The issue here is KDE's built-in upnp client, which is currently disabled in openSUSE. I am trying to figure out how to enable it. upnp servers are an entire different issue.

-Todd

I notice you were successful in enabling this support, since then these two bugs have been driving me crazy:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259472 (Kde apps crashes at one time with similar backtrace - perhaps it's connected with Upnp) <- nasty crash bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259377 (Disable showing of upnp devices in Dolphin 'Places' panel and Device notifier)

but noone upstream seems to be interested in maintenance of the upnp components. Can we disable it again unless someone takes responsibility?

Tejas

Since the latest KDE update from OBS, lots of KDE apps crash in /usr/lib64/libHUpnp.so.1.0.0 on a regular basis. The iptables workaround from the bugzilla reports does not work.

Does anyone know how to build a custom version of libkde4 that does not depend on libHUpnp1-1.0.0?

In case anyone is interested, I've achieved the above by installing the corresponding kdelibs4-4.8.4*.src.rpm, commenting out "BuildRequires: herqq-devel" in kdelibs4.spec, and re-building the affected kde rpms. Once these got installed, the annoying libHunpnp crashes are gone (and "Places" in Dolfin no longer contains unreachable "shares"). -- Regards, Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

20 Jun 20 Jun

09:12

On Tuesday 19 Jun 2012 14:08:51 Vadym Krevs wrote:

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In case anyone is interested, I've achieved the above by installing the corresponding kdelibs4-4.8.4*.src.rpm, commenting out "BuildRequires: herqq-devel" in kdelibs4.spec, and re-building the affected kde rpms. Once these got installed, the annoying libHunpnp crashes are gone (and "Places" in Dolfin no longer contains unreachable "shares").

You should use OBS for this, branch the package and experiment with modifications there. Is there a bug report for the crashes? I can't find it at bugzilla.novell.com. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Vadym Krevs

12:30

On Wed 20 Jun 2012 10:12:03 BST, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On Tuesday 19 Jun 2012 14:08:51 Vadym Krevs wrote:

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In case anyone is interested, I've achieved the above by installing the corresponding kdelibs4-4.8.4*.src.rpm, commenting out "BuildRequires: herqq-devel" in kdelibs4.spec, and re-building the affected kde rpms. Once these got installed, the annoying libHunpnp crashes are gone (and "Places" in Dolfin no longer contains unreachable "shares").

You should use OBS for this, branch the package and experiment with modifications there.

Is there a bug report for the crashes? I can't find it at bugzilla.novell.com.

Will

Dunno about bugzilla.novell.com, but here are the kde's bugzilla references: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259472 (Kde apps crashes at one time with similar backtrace - perhaps it's connected with Upnp) <- nasty crash bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259377 (Disable showing of upnp devices in Dolphin 'Places' panel and Device notifier) -- Regards, Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Markus

22 Jun 22 Jun

13:37

Am Mittwoch 20 Juni 2012, 11:12:03 schrieb Will Stephenson:

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Is there a bug report for the crashes? I can't find it at bugzilla.novell.com.

I am also affected and I opened a bug report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768368 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Mariusz Fik

14 Apr 14 Apr

14:31

Dnia piątek, 13 kwietnia 2012 14:05:10 todd rme pisze:

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* todd rme [04-12-12 05:16]:

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I notice that kdelibs4 has support for upnp media streaming disabled. This done by a flag saying kdelibs4 is not gplv3 compatible, which blocks the herqq-devel (aka hupnp) dependency needed by KDE for upnp support. I assume this is referring to LGPLv3, the license of the herqq (hupnp) library that is disabled. Being unfamiliar with copyright law, I was wondering what is still preventing this and what could be done to rectify the situation.

upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=m inidlna

I am able to stream music/video to/from my computer and atrix android phone. I did not try files.

That sounds useful, any chance of submitting it to an official repo like multimedia:libs?

-Todd

minidlna is available in packman Multimedia: http://pmbs.links2linux.org/package/files?package=minidlna&project=Multimedia -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik openSUSE Community Member GPG: 5FCE 7241 B3B9 32FD 455B C30E 42D6 6C88 9E83 7C3D

Herbert Graeber

19:22

Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2012, 08:15:45 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* todd rme [04-12-12 05:16]:

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I notice that kdelibs4 has support for upnp media streaming disabled. This done by a flag saying kdelibs4 is not gplv3 compatible, which blocks the herqq-devel (aka hupnp) dependency needed by KDE for upnp support. I assume this is referring to LGPLv3, the license of the herqq (hupnp) library that is disabled. Being unfamiliar with copyright law, I was wondering what is still preventing this and what could be done to rectify the situation.

upnp is available via minidlna with kdelibs4-4.8.1 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:buschmann23&package=min idlna

This is the server part of upnp. Todd refers to the client part that has to be enabled in kde.

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