* Daniel Eckl [01-27-03 15:23]:

I think the first message from Brenda reached us directly, too. I cannot say for sure, because I deleted the mail...

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Besides, she doesn't want to "unsubscribe". She wants to "unscribe". :-)

Well, I don't want to wildcat about which language is her native one.

But I think a Technical Course Developer of IBM should be able to read email footers and use a mailing-list.... (giving broad hints to Brenda *g*)

I don't believe grins are merited. She did the same on suse-linux-e. It *may* be someone trolling for addresses ?? -- Patrick Shanahan http://wahoo.no-ip.org Registered Linux User #207535 icq#173753138 @ http://counter.li.org

Okay, my thought was obviously wrong, I see. Kevin: could you check if this mail was HTML only? Perhaps the list manager can only append the info to the plain text part? Daniel Am Dienstag, 28. Januar 2003 02:24 schrieb Kevin McLauchlan:

Implying that "she" already had everybody's address? The copy that I received had only her address in the "From:", and had only the list address in the "To:". But somehow, it got past the list-server's function that automatically attaches the "Unsubscribe" info.

Can anybody tell how that was done?

Here's the original header:

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Received: from lists.suse.com (lists.suse.com [217.9.113.69]) by in2.magma.ca (Magma's Mail Server) with SMTP id h0RJPDaY027635 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5753 invoked by alias); 27 Jan 2003 19:25:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact suse-kde-help@suse.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: mailto:suse-kde@suse.com List-Help: mailto:suse-kde-help@suse.com List-Unsubscribe: mailto:suse-kde-unsubscribe-kevinmcl=magma.ca@suse.com List-Subscribe: mailto:suse-kde-subscribe@suse.com X-Mailinglist: suse-kde Delivered-To: mailing list suse-kde@suse.com Received: (qmail 5733 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2003 19:25:08 -0000 To: suse-kde@suse.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002

From: Brenda Gardner

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Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:38:52 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM119/03/M/IBM(Release 6.0 [IBM]|December 16, 2002) at 01/27/2003 12:24:57, Serialize complete at 01/27/2003 12:24:57 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0069931A86256CBB_=" Subject: [suse-kde] unscribe Status: R X-Status: N

I'm not great at interpreting headers. Maybe somebody else with skills could offer a clue? Offline, of course. This is already too OT.

Thanks,

/kevin

On Tuesday 28 January 2003 04:51, Kevin McLauchlan wrote:

Meanwhile, I'm still curious how it got forwarded by the list-manager without getting the "unsubscribe" instruction applied to its bottom. Was it accidental? Or some trick that can be done by someone who is sufficiently knowledgeable?

Note the content of the body: --=_alternative 0069931A86256CBB_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Brenda Gardner, Technical Course Developer IBM/Tivoli Software 11301 Burnet Road Austin, TX 78758 Wk: 512-286-3114 TL: 966 Fx: 512-286-2033 e-mail: gardnebr@us.ibm.com --=_alternative 0069931A86256CBB_=-- This is essentially an empty body with a *text*-only attachment. The List-server obviously doesn't append the unsubscribe info for such cases. Regards, Chris

* Daniel Eckl (daniel.eckl@gmx.de) [030128 09:11]:

Yes, you got it! The message was in a mime part of the mail and the list-manager doesn't handle this (and that's good so, because a mime part could be a normal plaintext attachement like a diff, too).

This is all explained in the list "faq" (it's not much of a faq), mailto: suse-kde-faq@suse.com. Pretty much only plain text and pgp/gpg attachments are allowed, everything else is silently removed. Posts containing only a mime attachment are bounced. -- -ckm