[opensuse-kde] Branding for Plasma 5.8
Hi everyone, Plasma 5.8 and its new designs of login, splash, logout and lock screens hit Krypton now. This of course broke our branding package: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/KDE:Unstable:Frameworks/plasma5-open... So, to fix this for Krypton and ultimatively also TW and Leap 42.2, I'm asking whether and how we would want to customize those. SDDM Login: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/15935331 QML Splash: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/83781575 Lock Screen: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/56114026 Logout: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/51248390 Obviously the upstream branding is still available as plasma5-workspace-branding-upstream. For now I will simply remove all patches in our branding as they don't apply anymore, to make Krypton build and work again. (This mail got sent to [opensuse-kde] and [opensuse-artwork], but please keep the discussion on [opensuse-kde] to not lose any messages and avoid duplicates) Thanks, Fabian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Lørdag den 27. august 2016 16:55:43 skrev Fabian Vogt:
Plasma 5.8 and its new designs of login, splash, logout and lock screens hit Krypton now. This of course broke our branding package: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/KDE:Unstable:Frameworks/plasma5-open SUSE
So, to fix this for Krypton and ultimatively also TW and Leap 42.2, I'm asking whether and how we would want to customize those.
SDDM Login: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/15935331 QML Splash: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/83781575 Lock Screen: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/56114026 Logout: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/51248390
I think the original plan for Leap was to keep the same artwork for the entire 42.x series. So ideally I guess the Leap 42.1 theming should be "ported" to the new upstream designs. No idea how difficult that will be. I guess the same applies to Tumbleweed. But Tumbleweed users have thicker skin. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data domenica 28 agosto 2016 12:48:51 CEST, Martin Schlander ha scritto:
I think the original plan for Leap was to keep the same artwork for the entire 42.x series. So ideally I guess the Leap 42.1 theming should be
The problem (5 cents question) is *who* is going to do that. ;) We had already dropped a part of the branding due to manpower, technical and design (in the graphics sense) issues. Since then the situation has not changed. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B
Luca Beltrame schrieb:
In data domenica 28 agosto 2016 12:48:51 CEST, Martin Schlander ha scritto:
I think the original plan for Leap was to keep the same artwork for the entire 42.x series. So ideally I guess the Leap 42.1 theming should be
The problem (5 cents question) is *who* is going to do that. ;) We had already dropped a part of the branding due to manpower, technical and design (in the graphics sense) issues. Since then the situation has not changed.
From looking at the screenshots how hard can it possibly be? The some background image instead of the KDE background resp that aggressive blue and possibly an openSUSE or Leap logo instead of the KDE one in the splash screen. The images should exist in other branding packages resp the previous KDE theme already. If we fail to achieve that due to manpower I wonder how the Plasma 5.8 integration is supposed to work at all. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data lunedì 29 agosto 2016 18:08:33 CEST, Ludwig Nussel ha scritto:
From looking at the screenshots how hard can it possibly be?
Probably not too hard.
If we fail to achieve that due to manpower I wonder how the Plasma 5.8 integration is supposed to work at all.
It is going to work: however, "look and feel" changes are often pushed down the queue, because of other, more technical changes that require more attention. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, 29 August 2016 18:08:33 CEST Ludwig Nussel wrote:>
If we fail to achieve that due to manpower I wonder how the Plasma 5.8 integration is supposed to work at all.
Ludwig, Is this really a fair statement that you are throwing here at a small community team ?? The team is doing its best it can to get everything ready and stable for the Leap 42.2 and then you are coming up with the statement that if they can't fix the branding then you are doubting if the Plasma integration will work at all. What about the artwork team ? Wouldn't it be much more logical to have the artwork team taking care of the openSUSE and Leap branding instead of throwing this back at the teams that have to take care of all the technical items ? Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 29/08/16 21:38, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data domenica 28 agosto 2016 12:48:51 CEST, Martin Schlander ha scritto:
I think the original plan for Leap was to keep the same artwork for the entire 42.x series. So ideally I guess the Leap 42.1 theming should be
The problem (5 cents question) is *who* is going to do that. ;) We had already dropped a part of the branding due to manpower, technical and design (in the graphics sense) issues. Since then the situation has not changed.
Aha! That maybe explains something. I'm just a user, longtime, though not a developer nor even a power user. But I've wondered why it was thought necessary to mess about with the good (and attractive) branding of Leap 42.1. I like the green lightbulb and animation, and reasons for changing it to the comparatively insipid new offering weren't obvious, at least to me. But if resourcing is the issue, that's understandable. -- Robin K Wellington "Harbour City" New Zealand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Samstag, 27. August 2016 16:55:43 CEST Fabian Vogt wrote:
So, to fix this for Krypton and ultimatively also TW and Leap 42.2, I'm asking whether and how we would want to customize those.
My "lazy" solution would be to replace the blue background with green.
SDDM Login: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/15935331 QML Splash: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/83781575 Lock Screen: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/56114026 Logout: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/51248390
Where's the code for those? I could only find https://github.com/KDE/plasma-workspace/tree/master/sddm-theme -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Samstag, 27. August 2016 16:55:43 CEST Fabian Vogt wrote:
So, to fix this for Krypton and ultimatively also TW and Leap 42.2, I'm asking whether and how we would want to customize those.
My "lazy" solution would be to replace the blue background with green.
SDDM Login: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/15935331 The default wallpaper should also work there as long as the alignment is right and hopefully that isn't too hard. QML Splash: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/83781575 Replacing the kde logo with the light glob from the leap wallpaper in
On 08/30/2016 05:20 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote: the QML splash would also help
Lock Screen: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/56114026 again the default wallpaper will probably work as a background here Logout: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/51248390 I don't think theres any branding here that we should really worry about (other then the wallpaper which needs to be done)
Where's the code for those? I could only find https://github.com/KDE/plasma-workspace/tree/master/sddm-theme
Have these hit Leap 42.2 or tumbleweed yet? and can you point me to the packages? now that enlightenment is done for the most part I might be able to find time to do something simple and easy. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adeliade Australia, UTC+9:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Am Dienstag, 30. August 2016, 20:11:27 CEST schrieb Simon Lees:
On 08/30/2016 05:20 AM, Markus Slopianka wrote:
On Samstag, 27. August 2016 16:55:43 CEST Fabian Vogt wrote:
So, to fix this for Krypton and ultimatively also TW and Leap 42.2, I'm asking whether and how we would want to customize those.
My "lazy" solution would be to replace the blue background with green.
SDDM Login: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/15935331
The default wallpaper should also work there as long as the alignment is right and hopefully that isn't too hard.
Personally I would prefer the wallpaper too, I couldn't get used to that solid one-coloured background yet... ;-) And it would probably not look that completely different from 42.1 then. A background wallpaper can be set in the settings, so this wouldn't even need patching. I tried that today on a Krypton LiveCD, and there's one problem though: the buttons are basically invisible when using a dark wallpaper. This was with the Tumbleweed one, but I suppose with Leap's black one it may even be worse. I hope upstream improves this, because a user can set any wallpaper (s)he wants.
QML Splash: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/83781575
Replacing the kde logo with the light glob from the leap wallpaper in the QML splash would also help
Or with the openSUSE geeko, as we do currently and already did with 5.7beta (which first introduced the new splash screen, that was reverted to the old one for 5.7.0 final). I would actually prefer that, as it is the status quo, and we wouldn't have to come up with something else for Tumbleweed (which will of course get Plasma 5.8 too after it has been released), would also ease maintenance a bit.
Lock Screen: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/56114026
again the default wallpaper will probably work as a background here
This one even let's you choose between different wallpaper plugins now (the same as for the desktop itself) in the settings, one of them is the solid color (the actual color is configurable), and a standard wallpaper is possible too. So we'd just need to install an appropriate config file I suppose. But the same applies here as for the login screen, it also has the same problem with the buttons, they were nearly invisible with the Tumbleweed wallpaper...
I don't think theres any branding here that we should really worry about (other then the wallpaper which needs to be done)
The logout screen doesn't have a wallpaper, it is semi-transparent. I.e. the "wallpaper" you see on the picture is the desktop shining through.
Where's the code for those? I could only find https://github.com/KDE/plasma-workspace/tree/master/sddm-theme
They are also part of plasma-workspace, in the lookandfeel folder: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=tree&h=6273598397a2925e066aae218d4489af3dead65c&hb=86af75bc112fbebc31dc7dc4e90b1e1186512aad&f=lookandfeel %2Fcontents
Have these hit Leap 42.2 or tumbleweed yet?
No. This is Plasma 5.8 stuff, which isn't even beta yet.
and can you point me to the packages?
KDE:Unstable:Frameworks, or a Krypton LiveCD. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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Fabian Vogt -
Luca Beltrame -
Ludwig Nussel -
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Martin Schlander -
Raymond Wooninck -
Robin Klitscher -
Simon Lees -
Wolfgang Bauer