-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 . I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems. KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here. I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate. 8 is not ready. Beware. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzy/L8ACgkQnQ18+PFcZJvfewCeOrgYsgNkA6ocJTZl4ChkFQcG YM8Anj8YPeJg0SqkDvMx3tBaTn+sxf5g =diIM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
1000000000000000000000000000000000% Agreeing. Steven le mar 28-05-2002 à 05:42, Carl a écrit : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 . I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems. KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here. I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate. 8 is not ready. Beware. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzy/L8ACgkQnQ18+PFcZJvfewCeOrgYsgNkA6ocJTZl4ChkFQcG YM8Anj8YPeJg0SqkDvMx3tBaTn+sxf5g =diIM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help@suse.com Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 . I realise Suse is frantically busy, just doing what they manage to do, and there has always been some shifting of the time cost to customers with all Linux distros... but this is over the line, as far as I'm concerned. This brings Suse into low-quality territory, joining RedHat. On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:03, you wrote:
1000000000000000000000000000000000% Agreeing.
Steven
le mar 28-05-2002 à 05:42, Carl a écrit :
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. I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems.
KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here.
I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate.
8 is not ready. Beware.
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Wow Carl, You and Steven are beginning to sound like Dennis Powell (dep) in his commentary! Oh, that's not a good thing if you were wondering. ;o) Simple solution to your problems is either get some good hardware or another distro. It is never too difficult to remedy such weaping, whining & wailing! Good luck on your quest! Patrick ========================== On Tuesday 28 May 2002 11:39, Carl wrote:
. I realise Suse is frantically busy, just doing what they manage to do, and there has always been some shifting of the time cost to customers with all Linux distros... but this is over the line, as far as I'm concerned. This brings Suse into low-quality territory, joining RedHat.
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:03, you wrote:
1000000000000000000000000000000000% Agreeing.
Steven
le mar 28-05-2002 à 05:42, Carl a écrit :
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. I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems.
KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here.
I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate.
8 is not ready. Beware.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 . I expected this sort of reception. On the same hardware as with Suse7.3, I installed 8 from scratch. I've used Suse since 7.1 . Notice I wasn't "weaping (sic), whining & wailing (sic)". I noted the problems specifically, and without hyperbole. In objective terms, I can't get actual work done with 8, whereas I could with 7.3 . Reasons/issues/problems are far less important than that central fact. I run a mortgage investment banking firm on Suse, and I just don't fscking have time to be bit-twiddling. On Tuesday 28 May 2002 11:06, Patrick wrote:
Wow Carl, You and Steven are beginning to sound like Dennis Powell (dep) in his commentary! Oh, that's not a good thing if you were wondering. ;o)
Simple solution to your problems is either get some good hardware or another distro. It is never too difficult to remedy such weaping, whining & wailing! Good luck on your quest!
Patrick ==========================
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 11:39, Carl wrote:
. I realise Suse is frantically busy, just doing what they manage to do, and there has always been some shifting of the time cost to customers with all Linux distros... but this is over the line, as far as I'm concerned. This brings Suse into low-quality territory, joining RedHat.
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 02:03, you wrote:
1000000000000000000000000000000000% Agreeing.
Steven
le mar 28-05-2002 à 05:42, Carl a écrit :
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. I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems.
KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here.
I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate.
8 is not ready. Beware.
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Am Dienstag, 28. Mai 2002 05:42 schrieb Carl:
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. I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems.
KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here.
I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate.
8 is not ready. Beware.
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Hello Carl, no problems here with five machines, two for production! Suse 8.0, all Sorts of patches or not. kde 3.0, 3.01 nvidia Geforce2 various mainboards.... VMware running on one machine with W2000 in it and testing a Oracle database in it! No Problems with stability, usability, the only one is that the VMware and kernel 2.4.18 together have problems with main memory more than 850 MB. I reduced this with boot options and am waiting for a patch on which SuSE and VMware ar working. Other things are well Best regards gg
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 . I just got a report that a full reinstall has solved most problems for one person. I remember seeing this 'globally-busted' phenomenon with Mandrake, and a reinstall did the trick. Have others seen this as well? On Monday 27 May 2002 22:42, Carl wrote:
. I've just spent three weeks configuring, and tracking down problems, and at this point I 've got to wave off those with production systems.
KMail is ignoring changes to its config file, and its GPG is not compatible with Windows; Junkbuster doesn't bust junk; Postfix isn't delivering mail; ext3 is slow; Konqsu can't right-click|Edit files; root Panel has forgotten all its contents; this list is dead; permissions scattered throughout the filesystem are wrong; KAlarm doesn't alarm; my AlpsMD5000 still doesn't work in Cups; and ten other significant problems that I'm too frustrated to list here.
I have all the updates. And I'm running K3.0.1 . All the above apps run... but they don't work, for a hundred different reasons that I just don't have time to investigate.
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