Hi, I just realised that I subscribed an english-spoken mailinglist, meaning that I have to explain my problem a 2nd time. I don't know why but sometimes KDE unrequested changes the sizes of my fonts. I usually use size 10, but sometimes and especially after some difficulties the size is just 8. And so I open the controllcenter - change size to 12 (it still shows 10) - close the controllcenter - shut down the PC - restart the PC - now the size is 12 - open the controllcenter - change size back to 10 - close it. I really don't know why it happens. In /.kderc nothing changed. Sounds the problem familiar to someone? Frank
Hi Frank
Sounds the problem familiar to someone?
More or less... Since I'm using KDE 3.1beta 2, I have frequent crashes when the screensaver sets in. When the X-Server restarts, all fonts have changed... In my case it has to do with the XFS (X Font Server). If such a crash happens, I now do an 'init 3' followed by 'init 5' on a console as root. Since I've set the XFS to be started in Runlevel 5, everything is fine again after this. So, maybe it's just that your Font-Server dies... You may try to do '/etc/init.d/xfs restart' and then restart the x-server. HTH Markus -- /* My comments do not represent my views. */
You know, you don't even need XFS. XFree86 has support for Type1 and Truetype and others built in. On Wednesday 23 October 2002 03:42 am, Markus Kohli wrote:
Hi Frank
Sounds the problem familiar to someone?
More or less... Since I'm using KDE 3.1beta 2, I have frequent crashes when the screensaver sets in. When the X-Server restarts, all fonts have changed... In my case it has to do with the XFS (X Font Server). If such a crash happens, I now do an 'init 3' followed by 'init 5' on a console as root. Since I've set the XFS to be started in Runlevel 5, everything is fine again after this. So, maybe it's just that your Font-Server dies... You may try to do '/etc/init.d/xfs restart' and then restart the x-server.
HTH
Markus
Hi,
I just realised that I subscribed an english-spoken mailinglist, meaning that I have to explain my problem a 2nd time.
I don't know why but sometimes KDE unrequested changes the sizes of my fonts. I usually use size 10, but sometimes and especially after some difficulties the size is just 8. And so I open the controllcenter - change size to 12 (it still shows 10) - close the controllcenter - shut down the PC - restart the PC - now the size is 12 - open the controllcenter - change size back to 10 - close it.
I really don't know why it happens. In /.kderc nothing changed.
Sounds the problem familiar to someone?
Frank ====================== Frank, Yes, I too have seen this happen before also. Not often, but it is not KDE related, I don't believe. I think it has more to do with X, as Markus mentioned. It is usually a simple matter for me as I know when it gets to the login screen that the fonts are incorrect. At that
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 03:37, Frank Yonatan Baule wrote: point, I just restart X and all is cleared up. I never thought of the xfs as Markus mentioned, but I would guess that would fix it also. Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206
Hi Patrick,
Yes, I too have seen this happen before also. Not often, but it is not KDE related, I don't believe. I think it has more to do with X, as Markus mentioned. It is usually a simple matter for me as I know when it gets to the login screen that the fonts are incorrect. At that point, I just restart X and all is cleared up. I never thought of the xfs as Markus mentioned, but I would guess that would fix it also.
Okay, now you get to know that Linux is quiet new to me, but how do you restart X? I mean, I always thought that X is almost at the bottom of the system and to restart X does mean to reboot the machine. Am I wrong? Bye Frank
On Thursday 24 October 2002 10.58, Frank Yonatan Baule wrote:
Okay, now you get to know that Linux is quiet new to me, but how do you restart X? I mean, I always thought that X is almost at the bottom of the system and to restart X does mean to reboot the machine. Am I wrong?
Restarting X doesn't require a reboot. Think of it more as a program that's running on top of the OS, not as the OS itself. From KDE, pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is a quick way to restart X. Don't use except out of necessity, and try and make sure all your files are saved before doing so. That Ctrl-Alt-Backspace thing will also work from KDM (login screen) as well, though I think X restarts now with a normal logout. Joe -- "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands; one nation, UNDER GODDESS, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. " "And Goddess said, let there be a God. And she gave birth to him..."
On Thursday 24 October 2002 12:02, Joe wrote:
On Thursday 24 October 2002 10.58, Frank Yonatan Baule wrote:
Okay, now you get to know that Linux is quiet new to me, but how do you restart X? I mean, I always thought that X is almost at the bottom of the system and to restart X does mean to reboot the machine. Am I wrong?
Restarting X doesn't require a reboot. Think of it more as a program that's running on top of the OS, not as the OS itself.
From KDE, pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is a quick way to restart X. Don't use except out of necessity, and try and make sure all your files are saved before doing so. That Ctrl-Alt-Backspace thing will also work from KDM (login screen) as well, though I think X restarts now with a normal logout.
Joe's solution will work, of course but also the kdm logon window (which you'll see when logging out of KDE) has a dropdown menu (cunningly labelled menu). One item on it is 'Restart X-server'.
Joe
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 14.35, Fergus Wilde wrote:
Joe's solution will work, of course but also the kdm logon window (which you'll see when logging out of KDE) has a dropdown menu (cunningly labelled menu). One item on it is 'Restart X-server'.
Heh, I so rarely have to log in, much less restart X, that I didn't even notice that. :-P Joe -- "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands; one nation, UNDER GODDESS, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. " "And Goddess said, let there be a God. And she gave birth to him..."
* Frank Yonatan Baule
Yes, I too have seen this happen before also. Not often, but it is not KDE related, I don't believe. I think it has more to do with X, as Markus mentioned. It is usually a simple matter for me as I know when it gets to the login screen that the fonts are incorrect. At that point, I just restart X and all is cleared up. I never thought of the xfs as Markus mentioned, but I would guess that would fix it also.
Okay, now you get to know that Linux is quiet new to me, but how do you restart X? I mean, I always thought that X is almost at the bottom of the system and to restart X does mean to reboot the machine. Am I wrong?
Log out of KDM or the window manager you are using. Change to a console screen (?? ctrl-alt-f2 ??). Logon as root. Type init 3. When init 3 is finished, Logon as root. Type init 5. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org
On Thursday 24 October 2002 19.17, SuSEnixER wrote:
Okay, now you get to know that Linux is quiet new to me, but how do you restart X? I mean, I always thought that X is almost at the bottom of the system and to restart X does mean to reboot the machine. Am I wrong?
Log out of KDM or the window manager you are using. Change to a console screen (?? ctrl-alt-f2 ??). Logon as root. Type init 3.
When init 3 is finished, Logon as root.
Again???
Type init 5.
Absolutely unnecessary. There is a selection on the "Menu" dropdown called "restart X". Another way is to hit "ctrl-alt-backspace", which will kill X, and kdm will then start it up again. Yet another method is to switch to a console and run "rcxdm start". There is no need at all to switch to runlevel 3. Anders
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 8:37 am, Frank Yonatan Baule wrote:
Hi,
I just realised that I subscribed an english-spoken mailinglist, meaning that I have to explain my problem a 2nd time.
I don't know why but sometimes KDE unrequested changes the sizes of my fonts. I usually use size 10, but sometimes and especially after some difficulties the size is just 8. And so I open the controllcenter - change size to 12 (it still shows 10) - close the controllcenter - shut down the PC - restart the PC - now the size is 12 - open the controllcenter - change size back to 10 - close it.
I really don't know why it happens. In /.kderc nothing changed.
Sounds the problem familiar to someone?
I had a similar problem (SuSE8.0) and think that it arises because X calculates a dpi (dots per inch) value based on the screen size and resolution and then uses that to scale the fonts so that e.g. 10 point characters appear the same size on the screen as 10 point would in a book. The screen resoution is given in XF86Config so there is no problem there, but X tries to get the screen dimensions from the actual display and I think that this is where it may sometimes go wrong. I cured my problem by adding a line DisplaySize 320 240 in the Monitor section; that's for a 17" monitor and the dimensions are in mm. See man XF86Config for details. You can check by running xdpyinfo which should tell you the screen resolution and the dots per inch value it is using. HTH -- Pam R: Don't put off until tomorrow what you can leave to the day after. Linux StepbyStep: http://www.linux-sxs.org/stepbystep.html
Hi,
I had a similar problem (SuSE8.0) and think that it arises because X calculates a dpi (dots per inch) value based on the screen size and resolution and then uses that to scale the fonts so that e.g. 10 point characters appear the same size on the screen as 10 point would in a book.
The screen resoution is given in XF86Config so there is no problem there, but X tries to get the screen dimensions from the actual display and I think that this is where it may sometimes go wrong. I cured my problem by adding a line DisplaySize 320 240 in the Monitor section; that's for a 17" monitor and the dimensions are in mm. See man XF86Config for details.
You can check by running xdpyinfo which should tell you the screen resolution and the dots per inch value it is using.
Thanks for all your advices, but believe it or not, since I told you the problem at the mailinglist, it never happened again. Apparently the X-Server is a little bit scared ;-) Bye Frank
Hi,
The screen resoution is given in XF86Config so there is no problem there, but X tries to get the screen dimensions from the actual display and I think that this is where it may sometimes go wrong. I cured my problem by adding a line DisplaySize 320 240 in the Monitor section; that's for a 17" monitor and the dimensions are in mm. See man XF86Config for details.
You can check by running xdpyinfo which should tell you the screen resolution and the dots per inch value it is using.
thanks again for your hint. That was exactly the solution of my problem. Instead of 90 x 89 dpi for my 19" monitor the X Server somehow got 75 x 75 dpi. So I added the actual DisplaySize at XFconfig. Hopefully the problem will never raise again. Bye Frank
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The screen resoution is given in XF86Config so there is no problem there, but X tries to get the screen dimensions from the actual display and I think that this is where it may sometimes go wrong. I cured my problem by adding a line DisplaySize 320 240 in the Monitor section; that's for a 17" monitor and the dimensions are in mm. See man XF86Config for details.
You can check by running xdpyinfo which should tell you the screen resolution and the dots per inch value it is using.
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