On Monday 21 Mar 2005 00:01, Randall R Schulz wrote:

What I'm talking about is the fact that every time I log in to KDE the icons are in the same misplaced location they were the time before. Every time, I realign them (by enabling then disabling Align to Grid) and they all shift to their proper location. The next time I log in, they're all back in their previous misaligned positions.

I had about 10 icons vertically aligned on the left. The bottom two liked to wander in the way you described. I consolidated some of these with a link to the media:/ URL so now I only have 5 icons which stay in place. BTW I use 'Line up vertically' instead of enabling and disabling 'Align to grid' to get them in alignment. -- Colin Pinkney http://www.cpinkney.org.uk

Stan, On Sunday 20 March 2005 16:41, Stan Glasoe wrote:

On Sunday 20 March 2005 6:01 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote: ...

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What I'm talking about is the fact that every time I log in to KDE the icons are in the same misplaced location they were the time before. Every time, I realign them (by enabling then disabling Align to Grid) and they all shift to their proper location. The next time I log in, they're all back in their previous misaligned positions.

Randall Schulz

Are you manually saving the session and reloading the saved session upon login? Or do you automatically save the current session and reload it upon login?

I believe it's the latter. Whatever configuration of (KDE-aware) applications that were running when I ended the session are restored when I log back in.

Sounds like you are restoring a previously saved session. Check in Control Center, KDE Components, Session Manager. I use the Restore Manually saved Session in the On Login section. A Save Session item appears in the main KDE Menu in the panel. Once you've rearranged your desktop icons to your liking choose the Save Session and you should be good at the next login.

That's the setting I have in effect. I forcibly updated it (by clicking "Default", which did not change the settings that were in effect, but did enable the "Apply" button, which I then clicked. In the past, changes I've made to the desktop, both additions and relocations, have been automatically remembered across sessions.

I believe the Restore Previous Session in the On Login section will auto-save your current session whenever you logout.

I wonder if icon positions are actually part of the session? I would have though they were apart from it. I thought the session constituted the applications that were running.

Stan

Randall Schulz

On Sunday 20 March 2005 8:15 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:

Stan,

On Sunday 20 March 2005 16:41, Stan Glasoe wrote:

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On Sunday 20 March 2005 6:01 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote: ...

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What I'm talking about is the fact that every time I log in to KDE the icons are in the same misplaced location they were the time before. Every time, I realign them (by enabling then disabling Align to Grid) and they all shift to their proper location. The next time I log in, they're all back in their previous misaligned positions.

Randall Schulz

Are you manually saving the session and reloading the saved session upon login? Or do you automatically save the current session and reload it upon login?

I believe it's the latter. Whatever configuration of (KDE-aware) applications that were running when I ended the session are restored when I log back in.

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Sounds like you are restoring a previously saved session. Check in Control Center, KDE Components, Session Manager. I use the Restore Manually saved Session in the On Login section. A Save Session item appears in the main KDE Menu in the panel. Once you've rearranged your desktop icons to your liking choose the Save Session and you should be good at the next login.

That's the setting I have in effect. I forcibly updated it (by clicking "Default", which did not change the settings that were in effect, but did enable the "Apply" button, which I then clicked.

In the past, changes I've made to the desktop, both additions and relocations, have been automatically remembered across sessions.

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I believe the Restore Previous Session in the On Login section will auto-save your current session whenever you logout.

I wonder if icon positions are actually part of the session? I would have though they were apart from it. I thought the session constituted the applications that were running. Randall,

( If you are the OP, I got a bit confused as to who started this thread. ) Still, do you have the Suse Watcher enabled, so that it loads it'self eachtime you login ? It has been a bad actor in the icon stories since it appeared. I have managed to kill it off and rarely have wandering icons once that is actually accomplished. Of course, if you have already disabled that, just ignore me.. I don't have any other sensible ideas about this. <VBG> -- j From out in the ocean the dolphins began a song that soon covered the world Chanson pour les enfants Chanson pour tout le monde ( song lyric )

On Monday 21 March 2005 11:51 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:

J.F.,

On Monday 21 March 2005 08:12, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:

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Randall,

( If you are the OP, I got a bit confused as to who started this thread. )

C'est moi.

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Still, do you have the Suse Watcher enabled, so that it loads it'self eachtime you login ? It has been a bad actor in the icon stories since it appeared. I have managed to kill it off and rarely have wandering icons once that is actually accomplished.

Do you mean the Suse Watcher that monitors the YOU repositories for updates? It seems really odd that it would interact with the desktop icons in that way. Or do you mean SuSE Plugger / SuSE Hardware Tool?

But yes, I do keep it (both of them) running and have since I began running SuSE Linux. This problem just started showing up when I did the KDE 3.4 upgrade.

I tried shutting it down and disabled its auto-start option.

It didn't help. In fact, the first login without it auto-starting, the icons all lined up (some on top of each other) at the top left. (Grumble!)

The whole things is so unpredictable.

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Of course, if you have already disabled that, just ignore me.. I don't have any other sensible ideas about this. <VBG>

Thanks for the information.

If you don't keep SuSE Watcher running, what method do you use to be notified of updates?

I just do an update automagically each week. I belong to the Suse Security list as well as Security announce, and that is where most of the info for "DO IT RIGHT NOW!" updates usually come from. Most of the other stuff can wait til weeks end ( or beginning or middle whatever day you decide to do it ) it's like backups.. habit is the best protector for both situations. Or that's my completely non humble idea anyway... <G> -- j That's why I wander & follow la vie dansante on the nightwind that takes me to where I want that's all I want .. la vie dansante.