[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse] Upgrading KDE4.1
On 2010/09/23 14:34 (GMT) Mark Misulich composed:
Mark Misulich wrote:
I have both KDE 3 and KDE 4 kde desktop environments installed on my computer. How may I update only the kde 4 desktop to the kde 4.5 factory release without also updating the kde 3.5 desktop to kde 4.5?
I am using Opensuse 11.1 operating system.
thanks for the answers to this question that I received. Unfortunately it didn't work very well, my operating system is hosed from the attempt to upgrade the kde 4.x with zypper and I will have to reinstall the operating system to fix it.
I want to try to install the 4.5 operating system instead of the default 4.1 that comes with suse 11.1 on the next go. Hopefully that will prevent the problems that I experienced this time. Is there a means to do this with openSuse on the 11.1 system?
You can use the procedure to install KDE3 instead of KDE4, and substitute http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/openSUSE_11.1/ for the KDE3 repo. http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 http://omgsuse.com/content/kickin-it-old-school-kde3 Since you're planning to reinstall, I recommend 11.2 instead, since 11.1 doesn't have much support life left, but is much more like 11.1 than 11.3 is, with less beta software in the base OS. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 9/23/10 4:45 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/09/23 14:34 (GMT) Mark Misulich composed:
Mark Misulich wrote:
I have both KDE 3 and KDE 4 kde desktop environments installed on my computer. How may I update only the kde 4 desktop to the kde 4.5 factory release without also updating the kde 3.5 desktop to kde 4.5?
I am using Opensuse 11.1 operating system.
thanks for the answers to this question that I received. Unfortunately it didn't work very well, my operating system is hosed from the attempt to upgrade the kde 4.x with zypper and I will have to reinstall the operating system to fix it.
I want to try to install the 4.5 operating system instead of the default 4.1 that comes with suse 11.1 on the next go. Hopefully that will prevent the problems that I experienced this time. Is there a means to do this with openSuse on the 11.1 system?
You can use the procedure to install KDE3 instead of KDE4, and substitute http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/openSUSE_11.1/ for the KDE3 repo.
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 http://omgsuse.com/content/kickin-it-old-school-kde3
Since you're planning to reinstall, I recommend 11.2 instead, since 11.1 doesn't have much support life left, but is much more like 11.1 than 11.3 is, with less beta software in the base OS.
Hi, I am not so sure I would not go to 11.3, now that most major post-release bugs are fixed. I have done several installs of 11.3 on desktops, workstations and servers none have had any kind of serious bugs, excepting the USB sleep bug affecting USB keyboards - now fixed in the kernel update. Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Fredag den 24. september 2010 11:20:59 skrev Peter Linnell:
On 9/23/10 4:45 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/09/23 14:34 (GMT) Mark Misulich composed:
Mark Misulich wrote:
I have both KDE 3 and KDE 4 kde desktop environments installed on my computer. How may I update only the kde 4 desktop to the kde 4.5 factory release without also updating the kde 3.5 desktop to kde 4.5?
I am using Opensuse 11.1 operating system.
thanks for the answers to this question that I received. Unfortunately it didn't work very well, my operating system is hosed from the attempt to upgrade the kde 4.x with zypper and I will have to reinstall the operating system to fix it.
I want to try to install the 4.5 operating system instead of the default 4.1 that comes with suse 11.1 on the next go. Hopefully that will prevent the problems that I experienced this time. Is there a means to do this with openSuse on the 11.1 system?
You can use the procedure to install KDE3 instead of KDE4, and substitute http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/openSUSE_11.1/ for the KDE3 repo.
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 http://omgsuse.com/content/kickin-it-old-school-kde3
Since you're planning to reinstall, I recommend 11.2 instead, since 11.1 doesn't have much support life left, but is much more like 11.1 than 11.3 is, with less beta software in the base OS.
I am not so sure I would not go to 11.3, now that most major post-release bugs are fixed.
I too would recommend 11.3 - at least for everyone who doesn't have an Intel gfxcard. And I wouldn't recommend using a repo of unsupported, barely tested KDE 4.5 packages for someone who craves stability and predictability. The officially supported 4.4 packages are generally very nice. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, September 24, 2010 15:14:38 Martin Schlander wrote:
And I wouldn't recommend using a repo of unsupported, barely tested KDE 4.5 packages for someone who craves stability and predictability.
i find KDE 4.5 more predictable & stable than 4.4 used to be. judging from other reports in this list, i'm not the only one. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 13:10, phanisvara das wrote:
On Friday, September 24, 2010 15:14:38 Martin Schlander wrote:
And I wouldn't recommend using a repo of unsupported, barely tested KDE 4.5 packages for someone who craves stability and predictability.
i find KDE 4.5 more predictable & stable than 4.4 used to be. judging from other reports in this list, i'm not the only one.
I would second and third that. KDE4.5 has been not just a little better, but significantly better than KDE4.4. There is a KDE4.5 repository in the works that will remain at KDE4.5 (instead of Factory which will move quickly towards KDE4.6). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, September 24, 2010 17:04:11 C wrote:
There is a KDE4.5 repository in the works that will remain at KDE4.5 (instead of Factory which will move quickly towards KDE4.6).
KDE 4.5 isn't 'in the works,' but ready: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/ KDE factory has become quite unusable already, being switched to qt 4.7. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 15:16, phanisvara das wrote:
On Friday, September 24, 2010 17:04:11 C wrote:
There is a KDE4.5 repository in the works that will remain at KDE4.5 (instead of Factory which will move quickly towards KDE4.6).
KDE 4.5 isn't 'in the works,' but ready: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/
KDE factory has become quite unusable already, being switched to qt 4.7.
Right.. thanks :-) I missed the message that it was done. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Fredag den 24. september 2010 13:10:19 skrev phanisvara das:
On Friday, September 24, 2010 15:14:38 Martin Schlander wrote:
And I wouldn't recommend using a repo of unsupported, barely tested KDE 4.5 packages for someone who craves stability and predictability.
i find KDE 4.5 more predictable & stable than 4.4 used to be. judging from other reports in this list, i'm not the only one.
Then why is everyone having problems on this list and on IRC using 4.5 packages? ;-) ... including Freek who just posted about an hour ago that his KDE 4.5 doesn't even start after an update. Sure 4.5 has many improvements over 4.4, but it also has regressions, and using 4.5 additionally introduces a number of substantial risks of packaging issues and user errors wrt. updating and repo configuration. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 15:36, Martin Schlander wrote:
Fredag den 24. september 2010 13:10:19 skrev phanisvara das:
On Friday, September 24, 2010 15:14:38 Martin Schlander wrote:
And I wouldn't recommend using a repo of unsupported, barely tested KDE 4.5 packages for someone who craves stability and predictability.
i find KDE 4.5 more predictable & stable than 4.4 used to be. judging from other reports in this list, i'm not the only one.
Then why is everyone having problems on this list and on IRC using 4.5 packages? ;-)
... including Freek who just posted about an hour ago that his KDE 4.5 doesn't even start after an update.
Sure 4.5 has many improvements over 4.4, but it also has regressions, and using 4.5 additionally introduces a number of substantial risks of packaging issues and user errors wrt. updating and repo configuration.
Probably because they (like me) are using Factory... and Factory has no guarantees to work. The stable KDE4.5 repo is the one to use if you want all the benefits of KDE4.5 (and there are a LOT) without the ooopses of the KDE4.5/4.6 Factory builds. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
| > Sure 4.5 has many improvements over 4.4, but it also has regressions, and | > using 4.5 additionally introduces a number of substantial risks of packaging | > issues and user errors wrt. updating and repo configuration. I have switched to 4.5 on oS11.3 since it was released, and can confirm that the global advantages vs drawback ratio is pretty positive. In particular the increase of speed and responsiveness is incredible. On the contrary the major problems I encountered: - Visual effects need to be turned off with intel driver (crashes xorg) - Plasma settings from 4.4 did not work so I removed plasmarc and then recreated plasma settings -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, September 24, 2010 19:06:27 Martin Schlander wrote:
i find KDE 4.5 more predictable & stable than 4.4 used to be. judging from other reports in this list, i'm not the only one.
Then why is everyone having problems on this list and on IRC using 4.5 packages? ;-)
i wasn't aware that everyone had problems; i've seen a few, and those aren't necessarily related to 4.5--but i admit, there are problems. but then, which release doesn't have any?
... including Freek who just posted about an hour ago that his KDE 4.5 doesn't even start after an update.
didn't look up this post, but if x doesn't start, i rather suspect the graphics driver / kernel.
Sure 4.5 has many improvements over 4.4, but it also has regressions, and using 4.5 additionally introduces a number of substantial risks of packaging issues and user errors wrt. updating and repo configuration.
you're correct, of course. the safest and most stable thing is to go with the official release. i should have highlighted that. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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