[opensuse-kde] Thinks that I miss in KDE 4
Hi, Here is my list of what I miss from KDE3 in KDE4: - System tray cannot hide icons (I got the panel full of system tray icons that I would want to be hidden, this is very annoying for me). - KMilo was not ported to KDE4.1.x, I cannot control my Thinkpad buttons any more (even the volumen keys don't work, for me this is ver very important) - KNetworkManager do not work at all, we need something to manage our connectivity the easy as possible, I'm a full laptop user. - I would like more actions options in the popups menu for files in dolphin or konqueror (like 'ark' more integrated, and send by email, ...) Other thinks that need to be implemented: - KDM and kscreensaver to support fingerprints readers. Other courious things: - I cannot drag&drop files from konqueror to dolphin. BTW, I really like very much how the Qt4 applications looks. I'm a openSUSE user (currently openSUSE 11.0). I have tried to use KDE 4 since 4.0, but I think is not ready for me, for now I'm still using KDE3.5.10, but I wainting ansious for KDE 4.2, I hope it brings at least the first 3 points of my list. Just my opinion (althougt I'm a KDE fan full user, and I also recomend KDE to other linux and windows users (but for now I have stopped from recomending until KDE 4.2, we'll see), I personally find superior KDE from GNOME). Thanks for reading. -- Xavier Callejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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Just my opinion (althougt I'm a KDE fan full user, and I also recomend KDE to other linux and windows users (but for now I have stopped from recomending until KDE 4.2, we'll see), I personally find superior KDE from GNOME).
I gave up kde when all the radical changes were being made around 3.5 or so cant remember exactly. its always seems in a broken state, and never really complete, and too slow, useless eyecandy, icons missing, crash, features not fully implemented, etc. still waiting on a useable release, until then its gnome for me. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjyjT8ACgkQUpqfZIdKFyG1QwCfXmHR1VxE6rBKFCyFTr/Rbtso 2QQAoI6kUMBpccWIw1z57FVS8qFQiVIN =WmJe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 12 October 2008 06:24:14 pm Xavier Callejas wrote:
Thanks for reading.
You are welcome. Xavier, can you check http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Ideas/11.1 and include missing ideas. Thank you in advance. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
steve wrote:
I gave up kde when all the radical changes were being made around 3.5 or so cant remember exactly. its always seems in a broken state, and never really complete, and too slow, useless eyecandy, icons missing, crash, features not fully implemented, etc. still waiting on a useable release, until then its gnome for me.
Have you tried KDE3.5.9/10 from openSUSE? I find GNOME unusable for a user that want to do more than use firefox and openoffice, I think I can't do almost nothing with GNOME, I feel I am in windows; but also I can't say that it don't have some few good applications and ideas. I do feel KDE more powerful and eye candy, but IMO it need to "solificate" (this word exist?) some ideas and implementations. I still have very strong faiht it it. rgds. xavier. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Another important thing I need is a good Palm/PDA support for KDE PIM. On Sunday 12 October 2008 17:24:14 Xavier Callejas wrote:
Here is my list of what I miss from KDE3 in KDE4:
- System tray cannot hide icons (I got the panel full of system tray icons that I would want to be hidden, this is very annoying for me). - KMilo was not ported to KDE4.1.x, I cannot control my Thinkpad buttons any more (even the volumen keys don't work, for me this is ver very important) - KNetworkManager do not work at all, we need something to manage our connectivity the easy as possible, I'm a full laptop user. - I would like more actions options in the popups menu for files in dolphin or konqueror (like 'ark' more integrated, and send by email, ...)
Other thinks that need to be implemented: - KDM and kscreensaver to support fingerprints readers.
Other courious things: - I cannot drag&drop files from konqueror to dolphin.
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Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2008 01:24:14 schrieb Xavier Callejas:
- System tray cannot hide icons (I got the panel full of system tray icons that I would want to be hidden, this is very annoying for me).
If I remember correctly, this is part of KDE 4.2, yet hardly something that keeps one from doing ones work. And this would be an upstream bug, since it is not opensuse specific, so you should report it at bugs.kde.org.
- KMilo was not ported to KDE4.1.x, I cannot control my Thinkpad buttons any more (even the volumen keys don't work, for me this is ver very important)
I can assign all keys I have on the notebook's keyboard, either because acpi recognises them, which you can check by running acpi_listen and pressing the button, or because xev sees them. If neither of those show them, it's not KDE's fault.
- KNetworkManager do not work at all, we need something to manage our connectivity the easy as possible, I'm a full laptop user.
Since there is no knetworkmanager4 yet, only some alpha/beta, it is the same knetworkmanager that you and all others used with kde3, which works quite well.
Other thinks that need to be implemented: - KDM and kscreensaver to support fingerprints readers.
Upstream too.
Other courious things: - I cannot drag&drop files from konqueror to dolphin.
Upstream.
I have tried to use KDE 4 since 4.0, but I think is not ready for me, for now I'm still using KDE3.5.10, but I wainting ansious for KDE 4.2, I hope it brings at least the first 3 points of my list.
If you are happy with 3.5.10, what's the problem? Is there somebody pushing you to switch? I use KDE4 on both, laptop and desktop and I surely get my work done, which would be the only valid reason to tell that KDE 4 is not ready yet in my opinion. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
- KMilo was not ported to KDE4.1.x, I cannot control my Thinkpad buttons any more (even the volumen keys don't work, for me this is ver very important)
I can assign all keys I have on the notebook's keyboard, either because acpi recognises them, which you can check by running acpi_listen and pressing the button, or because xev sees them. If neither of those show them, it's not KDE's fault.
Yes, but is not the same as see a progress bar or a visual notification, and also there are other buttons that need something like KMilo. For now I set up 'tpb' that is the backend for kmilo (kmilo is just its frontend), but I prefer kmilo.
- KNetworkManager do not work at all, we need something to manage our connectivity the easy as possible, I'm a full laptop user.
Since there is no knetworkmanager4 yet, only some alpha/beta, it is the same knetworkmanager that you and all others used with kde3, which works quite well.
Yes, knetworkmanager for kde3 is working (with some bugs that I think are from UI and not networkmanager related), I hope a impruved ui for networkmanager in kde4.2
Other courious things: - I cannot drag&drop files from konqueror to dolphin.
Upstream.
This is not a problem any more (I am really not sure if this bug existed or was I that passed for a strange mental lapsus)
I have tried to use KDE 4 since 4.0, but I think is not ready for me, for now I'm still using KDE3.5.10, but I wainting ansious for KDE 4.2, I hope it brings at least the first 3 points of my list.
If you are happy with 3.5.10, what's the problem? Is there somebody pushing you to switch? I use KDE4 on both, laptop and desktop and I surely get my work done, which would be the only valid reason to tell that KDE 4 is not ready yet in my opinion.
Well, KDE team is saying that we must "don'l look back" jeje hey I just wanted to say my opinions about KDE 4xxx, the newest is not alwasy the best, but as a computers fan I'm interested in this matter; also I hope that the newest releases can bring fixes, new useful functionality, et cetera. For example, I'm waiting since a lot of time that kmail could have signatures with HTML support, now I understand that kmail for kde 4 brings this new functionality; also I'm waiting for a good PDA sync. support with KDE PIM apps, et cetera. well, I have to go back to work, we'll stay in touch. rgds. -- Xavier Callejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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