kde3 kde2 login and other stuff....
i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good solution within google for days now, so please help me out. besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 and so is yast2 piet
If you tar up and copy the .kde2/share/applnk directory you already have and untar it in .kde/share then you will have all the links on the kstart menu that you had before. Which includes YaST2 and the other stuff. You can use kpackage from KDE2 under KDE3 it works fine. It may not be listed in the popup, but unless you completely deleted /opt/kde2 then you should have it. I still have it on my system and it fires up just fine. -- (ben@zeus) bin> ls *package* [13:37 02-05-19] kpackage (ben@zeus) bin> pwd [13:37 02-05-19] /opt/kde2/bin -- If you still want to go back to kde2 then just change /etc/rc.config back to defaulting to KDE2. BTW..KDE3 comes with KDM so you shouldn't be that bad off. You just have to make sure that all references to KDE2 are gone from things such as /etc/rc.config and your .bashrc .profile and anywhere else you might have specified it. -- (ben@zeus) bin> ls *kdm* [13:39 02-05-19] kdm kdm_config kdm_greet kdmdesktop -- It's in /opt/kde3/bin. Cheers! * PR (prooroa@wanadoo.nl) [020519 12:16]: ::i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) ::i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good ::solution within google for days now, ::so please help me out. :: ::besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 ::for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 ::and so is yast2 :: ::piet :: :: ::-- ::To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe@suse.com ::For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help@suse.com ::Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e :: -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--
you make it sound hopeful again. I now have kdm with a kde3 and kde2 option but get a weird dcop message when I try to run kde2 what is the reason for using tar instead of copying the links? piet Ben Rosenberg wrote:
If you tar up and copy the .kde2/share/applnk directory you already have and untar it in .kde/share then you will have all the links on the kstart menu that you had before. Which includes YaST2 and the other stuff.
You can use kpackage from KDE2 under KDE3 it works fine. It may not be listed in the popup, but unless you completely deleted /opt/kde2 then you should have it.
I still have it on my system and it fires up just fine.
-- (ben@zeus) bin> ls *package* [13:37 02-05-19] kpackage (ben@zeus) bin> pwd [13:37 02-05-19] /opt/kde2/bin --
If you still want to go back to kde2 then just change /etc/rc.config back to defaulting to KDE2. BTW..KDE3 comes with KDM so you shouldn't be that bad off. You just have to make sure that all references to KDE2 are gone from things such as /etc/rc.config and your .bashrc .profile and anywhere else you might have specified it.
-- (ben@zeus) bin> ls *kdm* [13:39 02-05-19] kdm kdm_config kdm_greet kdmdesktop --
It's in /opt/kde3/bin.
Cheers!
* PR (prooroa@wanadoo.nl) [020519 12:16]: ::i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) ::i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good ::solution within google for days now, ::so please help me out. :: ::besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 ::for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 ::and so is yast2 :: ::piet :: :: ::-- ::To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe@suse.com ::For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help@suse.com ::Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e ::
-=Ben
--=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--
* PR (prooroa@wanadoo.nl) [020519 14:33]: ::you make it sound hopeful again. ::I now have kdm with a kde3 and kde2 option but ::get a weird dcop message when I try to run kde2 :: ::what is the reason for using tar instead of copying the links? Yes, it's keeps the file structure together and you'll get all the links. So cd into .kde2/share and type this .. tar cvf applnk.tar applnk Then you can move the .tar file into .kde/share and just untar it. It will copy the stuff that's in the tarfile into the applnk directory exactly where it should be. It's just a nice way to make sure you get everything and it's in the right place. The reason your getting the dcop error is that KDE3 is now specified. I would try something like this. Put this in your .bashrc (it's the default shell..unless you changed it). KDE2DIR=/opt/kde2/ QT2DIR=/usr/lib/qt2 export KDE2DIR QT2DIR KDE3DIR=/opt/kde3/ QT3DIR=/usr/lib/qt3 export KDE3DIR QT3DIR Understand I don't know if this will work ..it's a guess. Someone else may be better equipped to help you with this. I started running KDE3 the day it was released as stable. It's got it quirks..but I haven't tried to use KDE2 since..just the apps from KDE2 which work pretty good. -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--
Reusing one's KDE2 directory on KDE3 is somewhat annoying on 7.3 because SuSE made all the .desktop files execute files in /opt/kde2/bin instead of just putting the executable's name (/opt/kde2/bin/kmines vs. kmines). This makes the older KDE2 version of various apps run instead of the newer KDE3 version. I'm in the middle of getting rid of all the prefixes right now. I wish SuSE had done this the right way. I can't remember which app I can use to do a multi-file search and replace, though, so I'm having to resort to using my Windoze HTML editor which won't save in Un*x format :( On May 19, 2002 06:02 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* PR (prooroa@wanadoo.nl) [020519 14:33]: ::you make it sound hopeful again. ::I now have kdm with a kde3 and kde2 option but ::get a weird dcop message when I try to run kde2 :: ::what is the reason for using tar instead of copying the links?
Yes, it's keeps the file structure together and you'll get all the links.
So cd into .kde2/share and type this ..
tar cvf applnk.tar applnk
Then you can move the .tar file into .kde/share and just untar it. It will copy the stuff that's in the tarfile into the applnk directory exactly where it should be. It's just a nice way to make sure you get everything and it's in the right place.
The reason your getting the dcop error is that KDE3 is now specified. I would try something like this.
Put this in your .bashrc (it's the default shell..unless you changed it).
KDE2DIR=/opt/kde2/ QT2DIR=/usr/lib/qt2 export KDE2DIR QT2DIR
KDE3DIR=/opt/kde3/ QT3DIR=/usr/lib/qt3 export KDE3DIR QT3DIR
Understand I don't know if this will work ..it's a guess. Someone else may be better equipped to help you with this. I started running KDE3 the day it was released as stable. It's got it quirks..but I haven't tried to use KDE2 since..just the apps from KDE2 which work pretty good.
-=Ben
--=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--
Ben Rosenberg wrote:
If you tar up and copy the .kde2/share/applnk directory you already have and untar it in .kde/share then you will have all the links on the kstart menu that you had before. Which includes YaST2 and the other stuff.
I gues .kde is in my home/dadada so I tarred went to .kde/share/applnk untarred with archiver... but nothing happened. Logged out and in again still no effect. as for the .bashrc I glued what you mentioned in your mail somewhere at the start before the fi-stuff but no result here either, am I doing something wrong?? piet
You can use kpackage from KDE2 under KDE3 it works fine. It may not be listed in the popup, but unless you completely deleted /opt/kde2 then you should have it.
I still have it on my system and it fires up just fine.
-- (ben@zeus) bin> ls *package* [13:37 02-05-19] kpackage (ben@zeus) bin> pwd [13:37 02-05-19] /opt/kde2/bin --
If you still want to go back to kde2 then just change /etc/rc.config back to defaulting to KDE2. BTW..KDE3 comes with KDM so you shouldn't be that bad off. You just have to make sure that all references to KDE2 are gone from things such as /etc/rc.config and your .bashrc .profile and anywhere else you might have specified it.
-- (ben@zeus) bin> ls *kdm* [13:39 02-05-19] kdm kdm_config kdm_greet kdmdesktop --
It's in /opt/kde3/bin.
Cheers!
* PR (prooroa@wanadoo.nl) [020519 12:16]: ::i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) ::i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good ::solution within google for days now, ::so please help me out. :: ::besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 ::for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 ::and so is yast2 :: ::piet :: :: ::-- ::To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe@suse.com ::For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help@suse.com ::Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e ::
-=Ben
--=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--
On Sunday 19 May 2002 22:17, PR wrote:
i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good solution within google for days now, so please help me out.
Did you apply the post-installation instructions? http://mail.bmtsolutions.com/suse_faq/desktops.html#KDE
besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 and so is yast2
No need to go back to 2.2. Yast/Yast2 is still there, you might have to add them to the meny yourself and yast2 is no longer available in the control center.
There is a kpackage for KDE 3.0, fyi. It's in the kdeadmin package. On May 19, 2002 04:17 pm, PR wrote:
i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good solution within google for days now, so please help me out.
besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 and so is yast2
piet
what surprised me is there isn't a readme file or whatever comming with the kde3 at the SuSe site where it 's saying beware: kdm problems! even though the entire net is scattered with mail of people having these problems. OK it is a challange in itself to sort it all out, but I know better ways of time-squandring. piet Matt Sheffield wrote:
There is a kpackage for KDE 3.0, fyi. It's in the kdeadmin package.
On May 19, 2002 04:17 pm, PR wrote:
i went over to kde3 but login is only possible with startx (suse 7.3) i bet this problem has been discussed before but I can't find a good solution within google for days now, so please help me out.
besides, what is the correct procedure to go back to kde2.2 for I miss my rpm manager (just click and it went) it is gone in kde3 and so is yast2
piet
On Monday 20 May 2002 05:28, PR wrote:
what surprised me is there isn't a readme file or whatever comming with the kde3 at the SuSe site where it 's saying beware: kdm problems! even though the entire net is scattered with mail of people having these problems. OK it is a challange in itself to sort it all out, but I know better ways of time-squandring. piet
----------------------------- piet, It may be because most of us did not have these problems. My install included the rpm manager package you spoke about and of course, YaST2 is part of all the installs, as you need that for administrative purposes. I had heard of some problems before I installed with KDE3, but experienced none that I remember, but I was also alerted to go get the online updates as well as the new packages available on SuSE's ftp site. You may not have seen or have been alerted, but as I said, I didn't have problems with the fresh install anyway. Of course, it is challenging to use Linux, if it was not we wouldn't be using it! :o) That is part of it's attraction to users like us, but SuSE has made remarkable changes in their distro to help take some of the mystery out of it too! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Magic Page Products -- Amiga-SuSE-PC Sales & Service URL: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tracerb
yeah, yeah, I am too grumpy I guess, but fooling around with basics can be anoying by times... actually I shouldn't have changed because everything was running smoothly.... but that's maybe the cause of going over to kde3.. piet Patrick wrote:
On Monday 20 May 2002 05:28, PR wrote:
what surprised me is there isn't a readme file or whatever comming with the kde3 at the SuSe site where it 's saying beware: kdm problems! even though the entire net is scattered with mail of people having these problems. OK it is a challange in itself to sort it all out, but I know better ways of time-squandring. piet
----------------------------- piet, It may be because most of us did not have these problems. My install included the rpm manager package you spoke about and of course, YaST2 is part of all the installs, as you need that for administrative purposes. I had heard of some problems before I installed with KDE3, but experienced none that I remember, but I was also alerted to go get the online updates as well as the new packages available on SuSE's ftp site. You may not have seen or have been alerted, but as I said, I didn't have problems with the fresh install anyway.
Of course, it is challenging to use Linux, if it was not we wouldn't be using it! :o) That is part of it's attraction to users like us, but SuSE has made remarkable changes in their distro to help take some of the mystery out of it too!
Patrick
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