[opensuse-kde] File conflict between kdelibs3 and kdelibs4
Building of LibreOffice fails with: installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ... This file conflict needs to be resolved, could you find a solution, please? Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 28 März 2012, 15:35:58 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved,
Probably because you want to install both the KDE3 and KDE4 integration modules for LO. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:49:04PM +0200, Markus Slopianka wrote:
Am Mittwoch 28 März 2012, 15:35:58 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved,
Probably because you want to install both the KDE3 and KDE4 integration modules for LO.
Why would you want to do that when KDE3 is no longer part of our distro? Also, I can build the code from source just fine without the KDE3 packages, so I don't think there's any build-time dependancy here that I can obviously see... greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On March 28, 2012 07:39:17 am Greg KH wrote:
Why would you want to do that when KDE3 is no longer part of our distro? Also, I can build the code from source just fine without the KDE3 packages, so I don't think there's any build-time dependancy here that I can obviously see...
KDE3 IS still part of our distro, as afar as I can see. KD3 is a community
repository and I, for one, am very grateful I can still install KDE3 programs
that work better than their KDE4 counterparts.
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On Wednesday 28 Mar 2012 19:45:55 Bob Smits wrote:
KDE3 programs that work better than their KDE4 counterparts.
This is purely subjective, I find the KDE4 apps to be better to use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-29 19:38, Graham Anderson wrote:
On Wednesday 28 Mar 2012 19:45:55 Bob Smits wrote:
KDE3 programs that work better than their KDE4 counterparts.
This is purely subjective, I find the KDE4 apps to be better to use.
Some. Some do not. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk90pccACgkQIvFNjefEBxrxRwCgx+IRleVk9JNdvLHS6uUWEpZZ /GYAoMcZYBAk3DNStO8H2NjcovUHiB1T =kk7B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:45:55 -0700
Bob Smits
I can still install KDE3 programs that work better than their KDE4 counterparts.
I would haven no objections if this would be not archived mail list and you would say "work better for me", which is actually the only fact that you know (just as me and most of the posters on this list that lack ability to make large surveys of KDE users). -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
This file conflict needs to be resolved, could you find a solution, please?
Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved,
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
This file conflict needs to be resolved, could you find a solution, please?
Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved,
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build. The conflict is an evident bug in KDE3/KDE4. It must cause problems also in other circumstances. This is why ignored it for few days. I am busy with LO-3.5 releases and packaging.
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla. Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi;
Quoting Petr Mladek
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
This file conflict needs to be resolved, could you find a solution, please?
Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved,
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
Please remove support for KDE3, for sanity sake please, its unmaintained for years.
The conflict is an evident bug in KDE3/KDE4. It must cause problems also in other circumstances. This is why ignored it for few days. I am busy with LO-3.5 releases and packaging.
This is now also blocking KDE4 support which is the default KDE desktop. Regards. -- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On March 28, 2012 08:07:32 am Ismail wrote:
please remove support for KDE3, for sanity sake please, its unmaintained for years.
This is simply untrue.
And I use KDE3 AND KDE4 programs on my laptops.
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Bob Smits
Am Mittwoch, 28. März 2012, 19:40:44 schrieb Bob Smits:
On March 28, 2012 08:07:32 am Ismail wrote:
please remove support for KDE3, for sanity sake please, its
unmaintained for years.
This is simply untrue.
No, the unmaintained part is true by simple logic. You are confusing packaged code with maintained code. It is impossible for one or even a few persons to maintain all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps' code. There were dozens if not hundreds of people doing that job before. Adding a few patches does not change anything – since you can only patch what you find and your patches can only be as good as your knowledge of the code. I wonder who would claim to know Qt3's code to the extend the devs at Trolltech/Nokia did. Same for KDE3's etc. Just because I can build a kernel and add a few patches I find, does not mean in any way that I provide a maintained kernel package. So Qt3 etc. being unmaintained code-wise is a simple fact not related in any way to packages still building. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 08:45:28 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Am Mittwoch, 28. März 2012, 19:40:44 schrieb Bob Smits:
On March 28, 2012 08:07:32 am Ismail wrote:
please remove support for KDE3, for sanity sake please, its
unmaintained for years.
This is simply untrue.
No, the unmaintained part is true by simple logic. You are confusing packaged code with maintained code. It is impossible for one or even a few persons to maintain all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps' code.
There were dozens if not hundreds of people doing that job before. Adding a few patches does not change anything – since you can only patch what you find and your patches can only be as good as your knowledge of the code. I wonder who would claim to know Qt3's code to the extend the devs at Trolltech/Nokia did. Same for KDE3's etc. Just because I can build a kernel and add a few patches I find, does not mean in any way that I provide a maintained kernel package.
So Qt3 etc. being unmaintained code-wise is a simple fact not related in any way to packages still building.
Sven
KDE 3 has finally into the archives! no more and no less, but at last out of the project! Many of the users understand the handle with kde 3 at no more opensuse project. KDE 3 was officially replaced by KDE 4, and that's good. The time of the once great desktops had expired. KDE 3 was removed from the distribution logically and set as the default for KDE 4 desktop. Well, some time later, they revised the whole back. Why? Suddenly one of the old junk back to distribution? Worse yet, it is also beginning to develop again ... even for 12.2? More and more packages appear once with prefix kde3 third Packets of a long detached desktops. Many KDE users is mostly known only too painfully, the corrections in some KDE 4 (eg P.I.M) are urgently needed. But why the same junk again last dig? No one would dream of digging up a dead horse in order to want to ride through the desert. Lack of anything bad, only that this old junk is still included in kde3 tumbleweed. KDE 3 is finally properly sorted out from 'official branch' and complete separated so that packager, developers and users do not trip over and over again about this "dead horse" KDE 3/Qt3. KDE 4 be with you, wherever you are … ;-) -- \__/ · … Grüße aus dem Ländle … /(0 0)\ · … openSUSE Member … (°_°) _________ \ )\ ||-----------vv| || || · … die "SuS(i)E" sei mit euch, wo immer ihr auch seid … · … wer die "SuS(i)E" nicht kennt, hats leben verpennt …
On 2012/03/29 10:28 (GMT+0200) Lisufas Linuxfreundeonline composed:
KDE 3 was officially replaced by KDE 4,
In name only, since 4 still can't do what 3 could, notwithstanding officiality.
and that's good.
Not for people dependent on 3 features missing from 4. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 06:08:24 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2012/03/29 10:28 (GMT+0200) Lisufas Linuxfreundeonline composed:
KDE 3 was officially replaced by KDE 4,
In name only, since 4 still can't do what 3 could, notwithstanding officiality.
Why do you keep stating these useless sentences? KDE3 cannot do what KDE4 can is as valid and hence your point adds nothing. And you still fail to find an argument proving the "kde3 is unmaintained" claim wrong.
and that's good.
Not for people dependent on 3 features missing from 4.
"Depend" is a big word for "I want everything exactly the same forever". It's … to claim that being able to do ones work depends on e.g. manual hiding of the panel, automatic hiding not being enough etc. But there is absolutely no need to argue about the personal issues people have with either KDE3 or 4, the only important thing is whether the packaged code is maintained or not. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-29 11:33, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 06:08:24 schrieb Felix Miata:
But there is absolutely no need to argue about the personal issues people have with either KDE3 or 4, the only important thing is whether the packaged code is maintained or not.
IMO, it is maintained. It allows me to use applications that simply have not been ported to kde 4. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk90PrEACgkQIvFNjefEBxqgbQCfXwsdUKd+IirAc0gY390gKfH5 zh4An3ASIFfkwDPGdOsu/Cj7s3gA6lgt =eabh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 12:51:29 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
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On 2012-03-29 11:33, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 06:08:24 schrieb Felix Miata:
But there is absolutely no need to argue about the personal issues people have with either KDE3 or 4, the only important thing is whether the packaged code is maintained or not.
IMO, it is maintained.
In your opinion? And according to what logic? Or is your opinion your only argument? And what does that tell us? According to you Qt3+KDE3+KDE3-apps' code can be considered maintained with one guy packaging it and adding a few patches here and there. In former times with hundreds of developers who knew the code and dozens of professionals creating and maintaining the code it was what then – übermaintained? I'll ask again: who of those packaging KDE3 claims to know Qt3's code as well as the Trolltech employees knew and now know Qt4? Who claims to know KDE3's code? Who claims to know KDE3 apps' code? And who thinks one person is able to do the job dozens/hundreds did before with the same quality and competence? It's nothing personal or bad or whatever, it is simply impossible and simple maths. It's useless to argue if people ignore simple facts and logic and just stick to ideology. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-29 12:13, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 12:51:29 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
In former times with hundreds of developers who knew the code and dozens of professionals creating and maintaining the code it was what then – übermaintained?
That was development, not maintenance.
It's useless to argue if people ignore simple facts and logic and just stick to ideology.
Absolutely, which is what you are doing. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk90SikACgkQIvFNjefEBxrKVwCeNHMerxjP3ZTsedAXf4nj46vg CKYAoLB8uKU2EbvSewS9pnxXX7FhSJ7l =kwUw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 13:40:25 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
In former times with hundreds of developers who knew the code and dozens of professionals creating and maintaining the code it was what then – übermaintained?
That was development, not maintenance.
Please read the release notes and diffs of every bugfix release of Qt3/KDE3 and then tell me again that it was only development and hardly any bugfixing, i.e. maintenance. But I know – Qt3, KDE3 and all the KDE3 apps are basically bug-free now, so hardly any bugfixing commits to that code is not a sign of it not being maintained and just left alone but a result of that code lacking bugs… Would you mind asking the pros at Trolltech for their judgement on Qt3's maintenance state? Or at least the people at openSUSE working on that code for years. Ah – forget about that – who are they to know. Let's rely on the opinion and competence of those using or packaging it instead! Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
"Depend" is a big word for "I want everything exactly the same forever". It's … to claim that being able to do ones work depends on e.g. manual hiding of the panel, automatic hiding not being enough etc.
But there is absolutely no need to argue about the personal issues people have with either KDE3 or 4, the only important thing is whether the packaged code is maintained or not.
Hi! I suggest you to ask this question in opensuse-kde3 mailing list and not here. I think people here cannot answer it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/03/29 11:33 (GMT+0200) Sven Burmeister composed:
Felix Miata composed:
4 still can't do what 3 could, notwithstanding officiality.
Why do you keep stating these useless sentences? KDE3 cannot do what KDE4 can is as valid and hence your point adds nothing.
Is your native tongue English? If not, maybe something got lost in translation. Newer is not equivalent to better. Linux remains unable to do some important things for me that OS/2 is able to do for me, so I still use OS/2. KDE4 remains unable to do some important things for me what I need it to do, unlike KDE3, so I still use KDE3. Between KDE3 & OS/2 I am able to do what I need to do. The same cannot be said about KDE4. Is that better?
And you still fail to find an argument proving the "kde3 is unmaintained" claim wrong.
...
and that's good.
Not for people dependent on 3 features missing from 4.
"Depend" is a big word for "I want everything exactly the same forever". It's … to claim that being able to do ones work depends on e.g. manual hiding of the panel, automatic hiding not being enough etc.
Why do you keep pointing to manual panel hiding when you well know that's not the only problem I have with KDE4? The KDE4 file picker is unusable on my network. Setting panel height by typing a number to get the same height on every machine is still impossible. Nepomuk still announces failure to open on every fresh 12.2 installation even though stuff it depends on is not and will not be installed. The KDE4 shortcomings list has been shrinking, but it isn't small enough yet for me to be using it for more than testing.
But there is absolutely no need to argue about the personal issues people have with either KDE3 or 4, the only important thing is whether the packaged code is maintained or not.
The important things are that KDE3 remains the best available DE for a significant number of users, and that there are still people willing to continue to make it available to those who cannot stay on unsupported old distro releases. Whether a DE that doesn't need maintenance (because eons ago its feature set stopped changing) isn't getting maintenance is a technicality of no material import. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
No, the unmaintained part is true by simple logic. You are confusing packaged code with maintained code. It is impossible for one or even a few persons to maintain all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps' code.
Qt3 is part of LSB standard. openSUSE wants to be LSB compatible. No distribution dropped Qt3 so far. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 13:27:18 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
No, the unmaintained part is true by simple logic. You are confusing packaged code with maintained code. It is impossible for one or even a few persons to maintain all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps' code.
Qt3 is part of LSB standard. openSUSE wants to be LSB compatible. No distribution dropped Qt3 so far.
You forgot KDE3 and KDE3 apps. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 16:45:18 Sven Burmeister wrote:
No, the unmaintained part is true by simple logic. You are confusing packaged code with maintained code. It is impossible for one or even a few persons to maintain all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps' code.
Qt3 is part of LSB standard. openSUSE wants to be LSB compatible. No distribution dropped Qt3 so far.
You forgot KDE3 and KDE3 apps.
The original message was about Qt3 and that nobody know the code as Trolltech does. Regarding KDE3 I suggest you to ask the question in opensuse-kde3 mailing list. It is quite off-topic here. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 17:49:04 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
Qt3 is part of LSB standard. openSUSE wants to be LSB compatible. No distribution dropped Qt3 so far.
You forgot KDE3 and KDE3 apps.
The original message was about Qt3 and that nobody know the code as Trolltech does.
Indeed and its still true. However, on top of that you have KDE3's code and all the KDE3 apps' code. All of which is unmaintained but only packaged.
Regarding KDE3 I suggest you to ask the question in opensuse-kde3 mailing list. It is quite off-topic here.
It's about getting KDE3 out of KDE: which is on-topic. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:28:51 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Qt3 is part of LSB standard. openSUSE wants to be LSB compatible. No distribution dropped Qt3 so far.
You forgot KDE3 and KDE3 apps.
The original message was about Qt3 and that nobody know the code as Trolltech does.
Indeed and its still true. However, on top of that you have KDE3's code and all the KDE3 apps' code. All of which is unmaintained but only packaged.
It is maintained. But I again suggest ask about this in opensuse-kde3.
Regarding KDE3 I suggest you to ask the question in opensuse-kde3 mailing list. It is quite off-topic here.
It's about getting KDE3 out of KDE: which is on-topic.
No. It was about the manpages conflict between KDE3 and KDE4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 18:42:02 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
The original message was about Qt3 and that nobody know the code as Trolltech does.
I thought it was about KDE3 trying to mess about outside its /opt home?
It is maintained. But I again suggest ask about this in opensuse-kde3.
I thought I had mentioned that it only makes sense to ask people who know the code – so how would that mailinglist help? Any Trolltech/Nokia employees on that list? Anybody who claims to know and understand all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps code? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:58:33 Sven Burmeister wrote:
The original message was about Qt3 and that nobody know the code as Trolltech does.
I thought it was about KDE3 trying to mess about outside its /opt home?
Indeed, the _mandir variable was not set in KDE:KDE3. The previous team that adapted KDE3 packages for compatibility with KDE4 simply manually removed any conflicting man page file. Not I set up this variable properly and re-enabled previously removed man pages.
It is maintained. But I again suggest ask about this in opensuse-kde3.
I thought I had mentioned that it only makes sense to ask people who know the code – so how would that mailinglist help? Any Trolltech/Nokia employees on that list? Anybody who claims to know and understand all of Qt3, KDE3 and KDE3 apps code?
I suggest you to ask Serghei Amelian, the leading KDE3 developer at the moment. He is subscribed to opensuse-kde3 mailing list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 19:04:58 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
Indeed, the _mandir variable was not set in KDE:KDE3. The previous team that adapted KDE3 packages for compatibility with KDE4 simply manually removed any conflicting man page file. Not I set up this variable properly and re-enabled previously removed man pages.
If you would maintain – in its genuine meaning – the code you would have noticed it within the last years, wouldn't you? Or at least the all mighty Serghei Amelian. qed
I suggest you to ask Serghei Amelian, the leading KDE3 developer at the moment. He is subscribed to opensuse-kde3 mailing list.
Did I not ask about somebody who knows the code as well as the Trolltech devs? Somebody with more competence than the original authors. Because I tend to believe the original authors more than somebody with less knowledge, i.e. rather facts than believes and opinions. One person to replace a whole team of pros – wow! I doubt it. Sven PS: How is that kio_imap4 using 100% CPU in kdepim3 on x64 systems going? I read its annoying people since months. I thought KDE3 was free of such issues and only KDE4…ah, who am I kidding. Long live KDE3, resistance is futile, users are resistant to arguments and do not trust the original authors' judgement. Maybe I'll bother again to answer if somebody new comes about and not always the same old bunch of KDE3 fanboys suffering groupthink. So if you don't mind, I'll leave this thread since nobody could present any authority more competent than the original authors of the software you claim to know, i.e. maintain. Hence I'll have to stick to their judgement about Qt3 and KDE3+apps' status. I would appreciate though if you could move KDE3 out of KDE: since its even less supported by the KDE team than KDE:Unstable:Playground. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 18:31:55 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Indeed, the _mandir variable was not set in KDE:KDE3. The previous team that adapted KDE3 packages for compatibility with KDE4 simply manually removed any conflicting man page file. Not I set up this variable properly and re-enabled previously removed man pages.
If you would maintain – in its genuine meaning – the code you would have noticed it within the last years, wouldn't you?
This way of solving things was decided before me and it worked until now.
I suggest you to ask Serghei Amelian, the leading KDE3 developer at the moment. He is subscribed to opensuse-kde3 mailing list.
Did I not ask about somebody who knows the code as well as the Trolltech devs? Somebody with more competence than the original authors.
There is no need to be more competent than the original authors.
Because I tend to believe the original authors more than somebody with less knowledge, i.e. rather facts than believes and opinions. One person to replace a whole team of pros – wow! I doubt it.
PS: How is that kio_imap4 using 100% CPU in kdepim3 on x64 systems going? I read its annoying people since months. I thought KDE3 was free of such issues and only KDE4…ah, who am I kidding.
As I know, kmail is completely broken in KDE 4.8., even filters do not work. opensuse-kde3 conference has been flooded by KDE4 users who asked how to use KDE3' kmail under KDE4.
Long live KDE3, resistance is futile, users are resistant to arguments and do not trust the original authors' judgement.
I do not resist anything. I use what I like.
Maybe I'll bother again to answer if somebody new comes about and not always the same old bunch of KDE3 fanboys suffering groupthink.
I do not suffer groupthink.
So if you don't mind, I'll leave this thread since nobody could present any authority more competent than the original authors of the software you claim to know, i.e. maintain.
I do not need a competent authority to use software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012, 19:44:11 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
So if you don't mind, I'll leave this thread since nobody could present any authority more competent than the original authors of the software you claim to know, i.e. maintain. ^^^^^^^^
I do not need a competent authority to use software. ^^^ Finally you did understand! A competent authority is indeed not needed to use software. Only for maintaining and judging the maintenance status a competent authority is needed.
Just stick to your own words and you won't fall into the trap of believing to actually maintain what you only use and maybe package. Thanks for allowing me to leave this thread with a bit of hope for those that thought they would use software maintained by a competent authority. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 18:59:08 Sven Burmeister wrote:
I do not need a competent authority to use software. ^^^ Finally you did understand! A competent authority is indeed not needed to use software. Only for maintaining and judging the maintenance status a competent authority is needed.
Well in that case the authority also should be neutral and not interested.
Just stick to your own words and you won't fall into the trap of believing to actually maintain what you only use and maybe package.
Not only me but tens of people who contributed to KDE3 since it was abandoned by the original developers.
Thanks for allowing me to leave this thread with a bit of hope for those that thought they would use software maintained by a competent authority.
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Am Mittwoch 28 März 2012, 19:40:44 schrieb Bob Smits:
On March 28, 2012 08:07:32 am Ismail wrote:
please remove support for KDE3, for sanity sake please, its
unmaintained for years.
This is simply untrue.
And I use KDE3 AND KDE4 programs on my laptops.
KDE3 is unmaintained. That you still use those applications has noting to do with their maintenance status. Most components were last modified 3 years ago: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/ If libreoffice-kde(3) causes problems, it should be dropped. LibreOffice will still run under KDE3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
KDE3 is unmaintained. That you still use those applications has noting to do with their maintenance status. Most components were last modified 3 years ago: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5
This repository is not the most up-to-date source of KDE3 code.
If libreoffice-kde(3) causes problems, it should be dropped. LibreOffice will still run under KDE3.
libreoffice-kde3 is part of libreoffice, not of KDE3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 March 2012 19:04:18 Petr Mladek wrote:
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
The conflict is an evident bug in KDE3/KDE4. It must cause problems also in other circumstances. This is why ignored it for few days. I am busy with LO-3.5 releases and packaging.
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
If the problem is only with man pages, this commit should fix it: https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&project=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Ilya Chernykh píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 19:13 +0400:
On Wednesday 28 March 2012 19:04:18 Petr Mladek wrote:
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
The conflict is an evident bug in KDE3/KDE4. It must cause problems also in other circumstances. This is why ignored it for few days. I am busy with LO-3.5 releases and packaging.
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
If the problem is only with man pages, this commit should fix it:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&project=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Looks good. Could you please push this into Factory? Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 Mar 2012 19:13:06 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
If the problem is only with man pages, this commit should fix it:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&proje ct=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 00:02:08 Will Stephenson wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&proje ct=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution.
I can guess that this is because the package manager's policy has changed. Previously and in 12.1 if two packages had common files, the both could be installed without warning. Probably in 12.2 this policy has changed. This is only a guess. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 29.03.2012 01:13, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Thursday 29 March 2012 00:02:08 Will Stephenson wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&proje ct=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution.
I can guess that this is because the package manager's policy has changed. Previously and in 12.1 if two packages had common files, the both could be installed without warning. Probably in 12.2 this policy has changed. This is only a guess.
No, it wasn't possible in 12.1 either to install two different man pages under the same file name Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 March 2012 12:20:18 Stephan Kulow wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&proje ct=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution.
I can guess that this is because the package manager's policy has changed. Previously and in 12.1 if two packages had common files, the both could be installed without warning. Probably in 12.2 this policy has changed. This is only a guess.
No, it wasn't possible in 12.1 either to install two different man pages under the same file name
Then this possibly means that KDE4 added a file. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 00:02:08 Will Stephenson wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&proje ct=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution.
Ask this the KDE4 team, not me. It is not due to my changes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 29.03.2012 10:15, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Thursday 29 March 2012 00:02:08 Will Stephenson wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kdelibs3&proje ct=KDE%3AKDE3&rev=644
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution.
Ask this the KDE4 team, not me. It is not due to my changes.
You broke it when merging kdelibs3-doc Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 March 2012 12:20:47 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Why is this necessary? We spent a lot of time in 2008 making sure kde 3 and kde 4 were parallel-installable. Please continue to keep KDE 4 installed as you test changes to KDE 3 packages as part of being a good neighbour on the distribution.
Ask this the KDE4 team, not me. It is not due to my changes.
You broke it when merging kdelibs3-doc
I only removed the kdelibs3-devel-doc spec file and the package. I did not merge it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:04:18PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
This file conflict needs to be resolved, could you find a solution, please?
Btw. I wonder why LibreOffice needs both kdelibs - still the conflicts needs to be resolved,
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
The conflict is an evident bug in KDE3/KDE4. It must cause problems also in other circumstances. This is why ignored it for few days. I am busy with LO-3.5 releases and packaging.
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
No problem, I'd rather see 3.5 packages instead anyway, as long as it doesn't have the same KDE3/KDE4 build issue :) greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 08:18 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:04:18PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
No problem, I'd rather see 3.5 packages instead anyway, as long as it doesn't have the same KDE3/KDE4 build issue :)
We have LO-3.5 packages in LibreOffice:Unstable project now. It builds even for Factory now. The kdelibs3 package is still not fixed in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed project. Greg, Ilja, could you please forward the fix there? Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:13:33AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 08:18 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:04:18PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
No problem, I'd rather see 3.5 packages instead anyway, as long as it doesn't have the same KDE3/KDE4 build issue :)
We have LO-3.5 packages in LibreOffice:Unstable project now. It builds even for Factory now.
The kdelibs3 package is still not fixed in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed project. Greg, Ilja, could you please forward the fix there?
Has the fix made it to openSUSE:Factory yet? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Greg KH píše v Út 03. 04. 2012 v 06:42 -0700:
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:13:33AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 08:18 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:04:18PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Building of LibreOffice fails with:
installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 exit ...
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
No problem, I'd rather see 3.5 packages instead anyway, as long as it doesn't have the same KDE3/KDE4 build issue :)
We have LO-3.5 packages in LibreOffice:Unstable project now. It builds even for Factory now.
The kdelibs3 package is still not fixed in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed project. Greg, Ilja, could you please forward the fix there?
Has the fix made it to openSUSE:Factory yet?
Yes, it has made it. See the package changelog at https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=kdelibs3&project=openSUSE%3AFactory Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 07:24:51PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v Út 03. 04. 2012 v 06:42 -0700:
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:13:33AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 08:18 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:04:18PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
Greg KH píše v St 28. 03. 2012 v 07:38 -0700:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:35:58PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Building of LibreOffice fails with: > > installing kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1 > file /usr/share/man/man1/checkXML.1.gz from install of > kdelibs4-4.8.1-2.1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package > kdelibs3-3.5.10-58.1.x86_64 > exit ...
Please see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146
I am sorry, I am very overloaded these days and I am late in reading mails and bugzilla.
No problem, I'd rather see 3.5 packages instead anyway, as long as it doesn't have the same KDE3/KDE4 build issue :)
We have LO-3.5 packages in LibreOffice:Unstable project now. It builds even for Factory now.
The kdelibs3 package is still not fixed in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed project. Greg, Ilja, could you please forward the fix there?
Has the fix made it to openSUSE:Factory yet?
Yes, it has made it. See the package changelog at https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=kdelibs3&project=openSUSE%3AFactory
Ok, thanks, I've now added this to openSUSE:Tumbleweed, it should be built and pushed out soon. If you still have problems after this, please let me know. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 28 März 2012, 17:04:18 schrieb Petr Mladek:
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
Whoever wants that should build that extension in the KDE3 repo. So please remove the KDE3 extension from main LibreOffice. And while you're at it, rename libreoffice-kde4 to libreoffice-kde. Plasma Desktop is default in openSUSE, so if someone still wants KDE3 integration, should call it libreoffice-kde3. KDE3 should not hijack the main "-kde" name. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Markus
Am Mittwoch 28 März 2012, 17:04:18 schrieb Petr Mladek:
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
Whoever wants that should build that extension in the KDE3 repo. So please remove the KDE3 extension from main LibreOffice. And while you're at it, rename libreoffice-kde4 to libreoffice-kde. Plasma Desktop is default in openSUSE, so if someone still wants KDE3 integration, should call it libreoffice-kde3. KDE3 should not hijack the main "-kde" name.
I am not sure whether it should be moved, but I do think renaming both to match KDE3/KDE4 packaging conventions makes sense to me. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
We need support for KDE4 because it is default on openSUSE. I removed KDE3 support in the past but KDE3 users wanted it back. So, I accepted submit request from Ilya and added it back. Thus we need both KDE3 and KDE4 during build.
Whoever wants that should build that extension in the KDE3 repo.
This extension cannot be built separately from libreoffice. To build it in a separate repository one have to clone the entire libreoffice, which would consume much of opensuse's build power.
So please remove the KDE3 extension from main LibreOffice.
Why you want it to be removed? It does not take much space. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 29 März 2012, 13:39:47 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
Why you want it to be removed? It does not take much space.
If you'd read the first mail in this thread, you'd know why. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 18:46:36 Markus wrote:
Why you want it to be removed? It does not take much space.
If you'd read the first mail in this thread, you'd know why.
This build error was only for about one day and already fixed. Any other problem? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
This build error was only for about one day and already fixed. Any other problem?
we understand... you, kde3 lovers, do not like progress... no worries you join a select clubs... the main abrahamic religious groups and some others tried to convince the rest of us for centuries that old traditions are better than progress... you even got a nice name trinity... probably you lost the holly part on the way. please stop boring us with your dogma about how great kde3 and how the convenience of old kde3 times is gone... I will propose you to step and fix the compilation with gcc 47 of you great code https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor?project=home%3Adimstar%3Agcc47 and check staging too... Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 18:46:36 Markus wrote:
Why you want it to be removed? It does not take much space.
If you'd read the first mail in this thread, you'd know why.
Actually I was not subscribed to this list. It is out of my interest. I found this discussion quite by a chance making google search. I noticed that somebody argued to remove KDE3 support from LibreOffice which I particularly use myself. That's why I replied. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 Mar 2012 18:53:17 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Actually I was not subscribed to this list. It is out of my interest. I found this discussion quite by a chance making google search.
How can you argue to keep KDE3 in factory if you don't even monitor the distro's main KDE mailing list? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-29 19:50, Graham Anderson wrote:
On Thursday 29 Mar 2012 18:53:17 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Actually I was not subscribed to this list. It is out of my interest. I found this discussion quite by a chance making google search.
How can you argue to keep KDE3 in factory if you don't even monitor the distro's main KDE mailing list?
Because there is a main kde3 mail list. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk90pZYACgkQIvFNjefEBxoZuwCfcwhj1cQBtv8LZqnq8sC4Bwig UiQAn3ulkjUQF9IdDhVT3M06OmPuuXQ4 =88E4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 March 2012 21:50:06 Graham Anderson wrote:
How can you argue to keep KDE3 in factory if you don't even monitor the distro's main KDE mailing list?
opensuse-kde is exclusively for KDE4. This has been decided long ago. Main mailing list for KDE3 is opensuse-kde3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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