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August 2016

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[opensuse-kde] Plasma 5.8 and openSUSE 42.2
by Antonio Larrosa 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Hello, As you know, a few weeks ago KDE announced Plasma 5.8 would be a LTS release. I think the decision to create a LTS release was at least partly caused by our (openSUSE) needs, so I think it's nice of them to decide to do that for us and I think it would benefit both KDE and openSUSE if we included Plasma 5.8 in openSUSE Leap 42.2 . 18 months of upstream support? I'm sure nobody would say no to that. The problem comes when one looks at the schedules for Plasma and openSUSE Leap releases: https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap The main part of the current schedules is: 2016-08-25: openSUSE 42.2 Beta 1 2016-09-15: KDE 5.8 Repo Freeze 2016-09-21: openSUSE 42.2 Beta 2 - Package freeze 2016-09-29: KDE 5.7.95 LTS (5.8.0 Beta) 2016-10-06: openSUSE 42.2 RC1 2016-10-13: KDE 5.8.0 LTS Release 2016-10-18: openSUSE 42.2 RC2 first week of November 2016: openSUSE 42.2 Release As you see, there's quite bad timing in there. I've talked with some plasma developers and Ludwig separately trying to move both schedules around in a way that could make it possible to get 5.8.0 in openSUSE 42.2. I have a proposal that I think (and hope) that will satisfy everyone so I think it's time to move this forward to all involved parties. In that sense, I wrote a very similar mail to the plasma developers and will send it at the same time than this one. I hope you like the proposal and note that I've tried to keep in mind the needs of each project (QtCon/Akademy dates and the desire to have a stable Plasma release on one side, SUSECon/SLE12SP2/other dates and the desire to have a stable openSUSE release on the other). This mean bringing forward some kde release dates and postponing some openSUSE pre-releases to make everything fit tightly: 2016-09-01: openSUSE 42.2 Beta 1 (this would include the last Plasma release available at that time, 5.7.4 or 5.7.5) 2016-09-08: Plasma 5.8 Repo Freeze (last day of Akademy, maybe that could be moved to freeze the repo just before QtCon?) 2016-09-15: Plasma 5.7.95 LTS (aka 5.8.0 Beta) 2016-09-21: openSUSE 42.2 Beta 2 - Package freeze (with 5.7.95) 2016-09-29: Plasma 5.8.0 LTS Release 2016-10-06: openSUSE 42.2 RC1 (with Plasma 5.8.0) 2016-10-11: Plasma 5.8.1 LTS 2016-10-18: openSUSE 42.2 RC2 (most probably including Plasma 5.8.1 if bugs found and depending on the size of changes) 2016-10-18: Plasma 5.8.2 LTS 2016-11-01: Plasma 5.8.3 LTS First week of November 2016: openSUSE 42.2 Release Following that schedule means that openSUSE 42.2 would be released including 5.8.1. This would mean too that we (can I include myself as a kde packager too? :) ) would have less time to package KDE releases for 42.2 and less time to test them too since some openSUSE betas would be postponed but RC1 and RC2 would stay at the same dates. Ludwig also mentioned he's willing to shift the Leap schedule a bit more if needed, but for now, the proposal is what's stated above. So, my question is, would you agree with that? Anybody sees any problem if both projects agree to those changes to their respective schedules? Please, keep in mind that both projects have needs and requirements, but it would be great to find one solution that benefits both of us and for that, both projects have to give in a little. Thanks, -- Antonio Larrosa alarrosa(a)suse.de larrosa(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:Frameworks5 and Backports_SLE_12_SP1 repository
by Antonio Larrosa 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Hi, Last week, my wayland patches were released as a wayland update and Wolfgang Engel updated the wayland package in Backports, so Frameworks5 should build again. I asked on irc and Luca enabled the Backports repository builds, but there are still some rpmlint errors, which I'd like to fix with the following steps: 1) From KDE:Frameworks5, remove the packages: rpmlint rpmlint-Factory rpmlint-mini Those three are only enabled on openSUSE 13.2 and Backports. Are they really needed for openSUSE 13.2? I guess rpmlint-Factory should be needed for Factory, but it's disabled for the Factory repo. 2) Link rpmlint-backports from openSUSE:Backports:SLE-12-SP1 3) Link rpmlint-mini from openSUSE:Backports:SLE-12-SP1 (afaik, Backports needs to use that version, but if the current rpmlint-mini that comes from devel:openSUSE:Factory:rpmlint is needed for 13.2, I'll have a look at the differences and try to submit them to devel:openSUSE:Factory:rpmlint ) 4) rpmlint-backports and rpmlint-mini only need to have builds enabled for Backports_SLE_12_SP1 5) Once that's done, I'll submit exceptions to rpmlint-backports so that rpmlint doesn't complain because some packages already exist in SLE. rpmlint-mini doesn't need to be modified, but it has to be rebuilt after rpmlint-backports is changed, that's why it's needed there. 6) We can celebrate that everything builds great :) I don't have permissions to do steps 1 to 4 (I can request deletes, but not do the other steps). Can somebody do those for me once it's clear the packages listed in step 1 are not really needed for openSUSE 13.2 ? Thanks, -- Antonio Larrosa -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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