August 2005 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

false automated start up of kmail
by Henk A.M. Weebers 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

Hi list members, From beginning of kde4.3.1 I got a strange behavior of kde at start up. As usual any application will be started up automatically if that application wasn't closed befor shut down. But at my place kmail does start up even it was closed befor. I prefer to use contact instead. Is there someone familiar with this problem? Henk Weebers

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FW: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root?
by AE 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

Better drama than most SOAPS. Almost as good as the List at Apache.org, now those Apache guys will knife you in a heartbeat for asking tupid kwestions - *Read the manual tupid* - all the answers are there, etc. That´s why Amazon is a saviour and Apache and their List has passed into a tupid memory. Great reading guys, keep it up. I´m learning more each minute - seriously. Al Engle Suse Wannabe - Windows for Business Apps -----Original Message----- From: Mike McMullin [mailto:mwmcmlln@mnsi.net] Sent: jueves, 11 de agosto de 2005 23:38 To: suse-kde(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root? On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 08:00 +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > Paul Foerster wrote: > > > Nothing personal here, but it's people like you, who do not know or > > understand why logging into KDE as root has serious security > > implications who definitely need it disabled! > > Sigh. I fully understand that I'm not supposed to play Frozen Bubble > as > root. I only wanted to know what's wrong with running a graphical > environment as root. Does that need to come under so much heat from you > techies? We're not all techies here. Rarely do you as a user need full root priviledges, when you do then you use root, and sparingly. This is really more of a security thing. Root has full unrestricted access to the whole system, and none of those nice "Hey dummy are you sure you want to do that?" warnings when you decide to nuke your / and everything in it. > Come on guys, cut me some slack. I'm not a geek like you - I'm an > academic whose field is totally unconnected with Linux - help me out > here. I'm trying to shift from Windoze to Linux, and if I ask a simple > question out of my ignorance, you people start using words like "Why > would you want to do something as STUPID as that?". If a small kiddie > asks you why it's not safe to open the door to someone you don't know, > do you shout at him and say "Why would you want to do something as > STUPID as that?" At least *I* would explain to him that people we don't > know can do bad things to us, and so it's not okay to open the door to them. Education is no excuse for ignorance. <just kidding.> It's not only those we don't know, it also us. Running as a user, the only vulnerable things are those that I have access to, which normally is located somewhere in /home/Mike, and not in any of the other <user> profiles. > So I did learn something from asking this question: that X11 has a lot > of security implications. But I would have liked to learn it without > getting reprimanded for my ignorance. Your partially right, it's not just X though, it's root, and that is the something thing to keep in mind. -- To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help(a)suse.com Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e

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Re: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root?
by Paul Foerster 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

Hi Shriramana, ... since this is a group discussion, I took the freedom to redirect it back from private mail to the group. > So if according to the geeks here I would be bonkers to login as > root graphically, then I need to know how to go to pure text > session, right? ... yes and no. What you refer to as "pure text session" is one of the consoles which you can reach via the ctrl-alt-f1..ctrl-alt-f6 keys just as much as is a terminal window. The thing with the ctrl- alt-fn keys has already been pointed out by others. There's nothing special about a terminal window compared to a console screen other than that it does not eat up all screen space and stuff like that. The only specialty is that you should be very careful doing X11 configuration in a terminal window (ie., with X running, that is!) unless you know what you're doing. Also, the "pure text session", which I assume you mean the text consoles with (grey text on black background, nothing else visible) can't start GUI programs. So, beside doing actual X11 config stuff, you never need one of the consoles. > And a "normal terminal window" will have to be opened after logging > into root via gfx, right? And I am not able to do that, okay? So I > gotta login as a user via gfx and then log out to a pure text > session, where I can login as root. ... the first question and/or it's implied answer is wrong. You can log in to the GUI as _any_ user, open a terminal window, and do the "su", "sux" or "sudo" stuff there to become root. That will do perfectly well and you can happily avoid being logged into the GUI as root. So you do _not_ need to log "into root via gfx". This is the last time I say it! It has been repeated more than once here on the list. > Come on man, I donno the commands at the terminal, okay? ... then why did you say you're a text command guy? When someone points you to your statement claiming you're a command line guy then you say you're a click-guy. When someone points you to your statement of being a click-guy then you say you're a command line guy. I tell you something: We continue helping you as soon as you make up your mind _definitely_ which party you belong to. How's that for a start? Your initial question was not about text commands which everyone including me would have happily told you in the first place but you insisted on being logged into the GUI as root. Would you have asked a question like "How do I edit file /etc/some-system.conf?" then it would have made sense. But instead you asked "How can I log into the GUI as root?" which is to some people, well, kinda controversial issue, a sensitive one for others (both of which you couldn't possibly know, ok), thus telling nobody here what you wanted to do in the first place. If you would have asked for what you actually wanted to achieve and not some mysterious path to get there with leaving anyone here in the dark about your goal, then, and only then, help would have mysteriously emerged. So, one thing is to get upset about answers one gets but another thing is to think about what one actually asked for. -- cul8er Paul paul.foerster(a)gmx.net

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Re: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root?
by barkos 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 20:49, Shriramana Sharma escribió: > Thanks for the instructions. > > Do I say "Muchas gracias" in your language? (Is it Portuguese or Spanish?) Spanish. Muchas Gracias. De nada

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RE: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root?
by Black, Alain 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Su sets the environment variables (executes the .profile or .bashrc) sux does that as well as setting the DISPLAY variable so that X programs can be run. -----Original Message----- From: Shriramana Sharma [mailto:samjnaa@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:52 AM To: SuSE KDE List Subject: Re: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root? Peter Buckenleib wrote: > Hi Mr(s) Shriramana Sharma It's Mr. :) > login as root might be dangerous, but some tools provide graphical > installers that should to be run as root. Thanks, but I wish to make clear that I don't want to do stuff like browse the net as root. Just pop in, do stuff with YaST, pop out, and back to user account before touching the net. > To do this i enter 'sux root' in a terminal window, and then i start > that tool. Is there a difference between su and sux? Thanks. -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org -- To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help(a)suse.com Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e

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RE: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root?
by Black, Alain 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Wow Fred, calm down. There's no need for insulting people here. Perhaps different companies and different installations have different requirements. The question wasn't do you agree with what I'm doing, but how do I do it. -----Original Message----- From: Fred A. Miller [mailto:fmiller@lightlink.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:47 AM To: suse-kde(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-kde] Latest KDE disables graphical login as root? On Wednesday 10 August 2005 12:44 pm, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > Fred A. Miller wrote: > > I don't know if it's accurate or not, as I don't login from a GUI. Change > > your setup in Yast, System Services (Run Level), Expert Mode, and make > > "xdm" ONLY run level 5 (init 5). Get out of all apps., and reboot. SUSE > > will come up to a konsole login. Then you can use "startx" to startup > > KDE. > > Um, thanks, but how does this help me to login graphically as root using > KDE? Why do you want to do something that stupid, and then maybe I'll tell you?! Root services are available while as a user, you DON'T need to login as root. Fred -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft. We have no bugs in our software, Never! We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost to you, at this time. -- To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help(a)suse.com Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e

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Problems getting left hand mouse working
by botmund 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

SuSe 9.3 Professional. I've tried editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I've tried xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 12" and neither works. SuSe control center isn't of much help either. Anyone have any idea what to do? I use a MS Wheel Mouse Optical (USB). Computer is Compaq EVO n600c. My /etc/X11/xorg.conf (mouse related part) looks like this: Section "InputDevice" Driver "synaptics" Identifier "Mouse[1]" Option "ButtonNumber" "5" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "InputFashion" "Mouse" Option "Name" "Synaptics;Touchpad" Option "Protocol" "imps/2" Option "SHMConfig" "on" Option "Vendor" "Sysp" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "mouse" Identifier "Mouse[3]" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "InputFashion" "Mouse" Option "Name" "USB-Mouse;ExplorerPS/2 on USB" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Any help much appreciated.

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KAT under SuSE 9.3?
by Patrick Trettenbrein 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

I installed KAT from the packages provided by Novell. When I tried to run it, the assistant told me that I need a kernel with Inotify. Anybody here that knows how to get Inotify (likly a SuSE rpm) installed here on my SuSE 9.3 system? I don't want to recompile my kernel so is there another option? Patrick -- Patrick Trettenbrein - patrick.trettenbrein(a)kdemail.net GnuPG fingerprint: 312B 561F B0E9 1DB5 CE5B A9CB 831A 1994 E9A3 0010

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Re: [suse-kde] How do I install KDE 3.4.2 using yast?
by KBB0927＠cs.com 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Hello All, How about the Suse-kde3.rpm file. Should that file be uninstalled and reinstalled after the upgrade to maintain the SuSE eye candy/files/menus? Thanks, Keith Carl Hartung <suselinux(a)cehartung.com> wrote: >On Friday 05 August 2005 1:32 pm, elefino wrote: >> On Monday 01 August 2005 15:04, Kirk Coombs wrote: >> > >>> Andreas Mahel <andreas.mahel(a)gmx.net> 08/01/05 12:53 pm >>> >> > > >> > > Could please someone tell me what I have to do to persuade yast to >> > > install the new KDE version (BTW, running 9.3)? >> > >> > In YaST, go into "Change Source of Installation" and add: >> > >> > ft p://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.3/yast-s >> >ource/ (or a local mirror) ><snip> > >Hi Kevin, > >At this point, with the new installation source added, use the "Install and >Remove" software module. Select "Package Groups" as your filter (the >selection box at top-left). In the left pane, scroll all the way down to the >bottom and select "ZZZ All", which will cause every available package (at the >installation sources /and/ on your system) to be displayed with it's current >status vis a vis your system. > >In the right pane, right-click on any package, highlight "All in this list..." >and choose "Update if newer version available" in the submenu. This will >instruct YaST to upgrade everything on your system if a newer package is >available. It determines this by comparing what's installed against what's >available at the sources you've defined. > >Important: Resolve any KDE dependency issues by selecting to uninstall the >current versions of any programs that normally come with SuSE, as many times >the newer versions are rolled into new or differently named rpms and you >can't directly trace the upgrade path. Example: the 'kdepim3" packages >containing significant parts of kontact, which in turn contain parts of >kmail. > >> Also, is it a problem to be running this YaST update/upgrade >> of KDE from KDE? Or would it make more sense to close KDE >> and run it from GNOME or from the text-based YaST? >> >> Kevin > >I usually "Exit and Save Changes" instead of clicking 'Accept' so the Install >and Remove Software module closes when the process is complete. Then I >immediately log out and reboot. > >HTH & Enjoy! > >- Carl > >-- >To unsubscribe, email: suse-kde-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >For additional commands, email: suse-kde-help(a)suse.com >Please do not cross-post to suse-linux-e > >

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kde is messed up with NVidia driver
by Syed Mamun Raihan 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Hi All, I am using 2.6.11.4-21.8 kernel with suse linux 9.3. I have installed nvidia in the following manner, >modeprobe agpgart >sh NVidia****.run -q >sax2 -m -0=nvidia (set monitor, resolution and 3d) Still the background looks like messed up (pictures are blurred!) Thanks in advance for any help. Raihan

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