Ilya, I have notices some of the ~/.kde/share/config files have really strange names in 13.1. For example: clock_panelapplet_p8zrir8wmxvy1grivcys_rc launcher_panelapplet_f5wollqrwph6smr1ihby_rc I don't know if this is the reason kicker blew-up on first start, but I've never seen the weird suffixes _p8zrir... _f5woll... before in all my years with kde3 or in tde development. Any idea why this is happening? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org