[opensuse-kde3] Getting ready to install Leap 42.3 and KDE3...
I'm getting ready to install Leap 42.3 on my desktop system, and I'm looking for recommendations for getting KDE3 to work 'out of the box', since previously I've struggled with weird results when starting from a DM-free OpenSuSE install. (It appears to me that KDE3 expects certain non-KDE3 packages to be preinstalled, otherwise weird things happen.) What would be the best DM to install initially, to be later superceded by KDE3? I'd like to avoid KDE4 and Plasma as much as possible. Also, what is the best way to get the restricted codecs installed? The available One-Click options don't seem work with a KDE3-only system. TIA, Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-08-18 00:35 (UTC-0500):
I'm getting ready to install Leap 42.3 on my desktop system, and I'm looking for recommendations for getting KDE3 to work 'out of the box', since previously I've struggled with weird results when starting from a DM-free OpenSuSE install. (It appears to me that KDE3 expects certain non-KDE3 packages to be preinstalled, otherwise weird things happen.)
What would be the best DM to install initially, to be later superceded by KDE3? I'd like to avoid KDE4 and Plasma as much as possible.
I traditionally minimally install X with IceWM, but I don't bother trying to use it before installing KDE3 with zypper. /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager (DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3") and /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager (DEFAULT_WM="startkde") need to be configured, whether with YaST or manually, before you can expect either to work correctly, if at all, right from boot. You should be able to use IceWM to get into the GUI YaST2 and get KDE3 installed. I don't think anything required to run KDE3 depends on any of KDE4 or Plasma5, but YaST does use QT5. You should not have to suffer through any of that SDDM or Plasma trouble you had last April if you stick to IceWM to get to GUI YaST, but during installation you do need to select details from the Software Selection and System Tasks installation screen to be able to deselect install recommended packages from the dependencies menu if you want to avoid installing things you are unlikely ever to want or use.
Also, what is the best way to get the restricted codecs installed? The available One-Click options don't seem work with a KDE3-only system.
I generally try hard to avoid using 1-click. I configure my repos manually and get what openSUSE's repos don't provide from Packman, plus libdvdcss2 from opensuse-guide.org. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-08-18 00:35 (UTC-0500):
I'm getting ready to install Leap 42.3 on my desktop system, and I'm looking for recommendations for getting KDE3 to work 'out of the box', since previously I've struggled with weird results when starting from a DM-free OpenSuSE install. (It appears to me that KDE3 expects certain non-KDE3 packages to be preinstalled, otherwise weird things happen.)
What would be the best DM to install initially, to be later superceded by KDE3? I'd like to avoid KDE4 and Plasma as much as possible.
I traditionally minimally install X with IceWM, but I don't bother trying to use it before installing KDE3 with zypper. /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager (DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3") and /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager (DEFAULT_WM="startkde") need to be configured, whether with YaST or manually, before you can expect either to work correctly, if at all, right from boot. You should be able to use IceWM to get into the GUI YaST2 and get KDE3 installed. I don't think anything required to run KDE3 depends on any of KDE4 or Plasma5, but YaST does use QT5. You should not have to suffer through any of that SDDM or Plasma trouble you had last April if you stick to IceWM to get to GUI YaST, but during installation you do need to select details from the Software Selection and System Tasks installation screen to be able to deselect install recommended packages from the dependencies menu if you want to avoid installing things you are unlikely ever to want or use. Wow! Thank you for the direct and concise response. I'll try that.
Also, what is the best way to get the restricted codecs installed? The available One-Click options don't seem work with a KDE3-only system.
I generally try hard to avoid using 1-click. I configure my repos manually and get what openSUSE's repos don't provide from Packman, plus libdvdcss2 from opensuse-guide.org. I generally avoid using 1-click too, but it's difficult to find instructions for manual installation of the codecs. (But I have now; they're at https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/526222-Multimedia-Guide-for-openS... .) Hopefully this will work for me. The last time I tried installing the codecs
On 2017-08-18 02:35:23 Felix Miata wrote: there were dependencies to KDE4 and/or Plasma, and I couldn't get them to work.
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On 2017-08-18 02:35:23 Felix Miata wrote:
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-08-18 00:35 (UTC-0500): [snip]
What would be the best DM to install initially, to be later superceded by KDE3? I'd like to avoid KDE4 and Plasma as much as possible.
I traditionally minimally install X with IceWM, but I don't bother trying to use it before installing KDE3 with zypper. /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager (DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3") and /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager (DEFAULT_WM="startkde") need to be configured, [snip] This worked quite nicely, and I was able to replace SDDM, though I seem to be stuck with the icky "Build with OpenSuSE Studio" theme, with no apparent way to get rid of that. I've looked at Personal Settings -> System Administration -> Login Manager, but I can't figure out how it specifies this image; turning off the background image doesn't get rid of it; nor does changing the GUI Style or Color Scheme in the Appearance tab. Any suggestions?
Also, what is the best way to get the restricted codecs installed? The available One-Click options don't seem work with a KDE3-only system.
I generally try hard to avoid using 1-click. I configure my repos manually and get what openSUSE's repos don't provide from Packman, plus libdvdcss2 from opensuse-guide.org. Following these instructions https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/526222-Multimedia-Guide-for-openS... worked much better than the 1-Click instructions, and my audio is now working again. I'm feeling a bit better about OpenSuSE again now; I was seriously contemplating installing Ubuntu and trying TrinityDE again...
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Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-08-25 15:01 (UTC-0500):
... I seem to be stuck with the icky "Build with OpenSuSE Studio" theme, with no apparent way to get rid of that. I've looked at Personal Settings -> System Administration -> Login Manager, but I can't figure out how it specifies this image; turning off the background image doesn't get rid of it; nor does changing the GUI Style or Color Scheme in the Appearance tab. Any suggestions?
I haven't seen what any openSUSE KDM theme looks like in many moons. Before I ever let KDM(3) start, I fix kdmrc so that only the ancient but likable default configuration is used, thus: UseTheme=false It's only one of more than a dozen changes I make to kdmrc, at least one of which has no functional counterpart in any other login manager, and is sufficient justification alone to stick with it no matter how many "improvements" are offered by alternative DMs. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-25 15:32:52 Felix Miata wrote:
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-08-25 15:01 (UTC-0500):
... I seem to be stuck with the icky "Build with OpenSuSE Studio" theme, with no apparent way to get rid of that. I've looked at Personal Settings -> System Administration -> Login Manager, but I can't figure out how it specifies this image; turning off the background image doesn't get rid of it; nor does changing the GUI Style or Color Scheme in the Appearance tab. Any suggestions?
I haven't seen what any openSUSE KDM theme looks like in many moons. Before I ever let KDM(3) start, I fix kdmrc so that only the ancient but likable default configuration is used, thus:
UseTheme=false
Hmmm... in /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc I see no line like that. What section would that go in? Leslie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-08-25 16:14 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
I haven't seen what any openSUSE KDM theme looks like in many moons. Before I ever let KDM(3) start, I fix kdmrc so that only the ancient but likable default configuration is used, thus:
UseTheme=false
Hmmm... in /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc I see no line like that. What section would that go in?
grep -B2 -A6 eme=false kdmrc # Whether the greeter should be themed. # Default is true UseTheme=false # The theme to use for the greeter. Can point to either a directory or an XML # file. # Default is "/opt/kde3/share/apps/kdm/themes/SUSE" #Theme= # Core config for local displays -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-08-25 16:48:10 Felix Miata wrote:
grep -B2 -A6 eme=false kdmrc
Very strange; here's what I get: $ grep -B2 -A6 eme=false /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc @17:01:18,root@pinto ~ $ I've attached my kdmrc file for your review. Leslie
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