Re: [opensuse-kde3] How to get Device Notifier working for CD's & DVD's
On Saturday 07 April 2012 17:22:26 Maurice wrote:
On 2012-04-07 at 21:40 Ilya said:
run kcontrol -> peripherals -> storage media -> advanced -> check/uncheck autostart
Was already x'd (i.e. enabled).
Hello, I have been following this thread carefully because I have the exact same problem as Maurice, SuSE 12.1, KDE 3.5.10. Also tried all of the instructions with no result. I can insert a camera card into my card reader and it brings up Device Notifier as does a variety of USB devices. (external hard drive, mp3 player etc.) The only thing that does not is a CD or DVD when inserted. I can, however, play a movie or listed to an audio CD by opening a appropriate application, or rip a CD or DVD with K3B. I notice in Control Center > Peripherals > Media > Acvanced that there are two grayed out lines above the autostart line/checkbox that seem tohave something to do with HAL but an not sure. Is that correct? I have been living with this sice 12.1 camee out but this is not the wayit should work and is very frustrating. Since Maurice and I have the identical problem there must be others too. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 06:36:29 Bob S wrote:
I have been following this thread carefully because I have the exact same problem as Maurice, SuSE 12.1, KDE 3.5.10. Also tried all of the instructions with no result.
I can insert a camera card into my card reader and it brings up Device Notifier as does a variety of USB devices. (external hard drive, mp3 player etc.) The only thing that does not is a CD or DVD when inserted. I can, however, play a movie or listed to an audio CD by opening a appropriate application, or rip a CD or DVD with K3B.
I notice in Control Center > Peripherals > Media > Acvanced that there are two grayed out lines above the autostart line/checkbox that seem tohave something to do with HAL but an not sure. Is that correct?
I have been living with this sice 12.1 camee out but this is not the wayit should work and is very frustrating. Since Maurice and I have the identical problem there must be others too.
The pop-up appears only if you are inserting a disk with data and files. If you are inserting an audio/video CD the pop-up does not appear, indeed. To Serghei: so it may be reasonable to show Audio/Video CDs as well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 10:04:48 Ilya Chernykh wrote: [...]
I have been living with this sice 12.1 camee out but this is not the wayit should work and is very frustrating. Since Maurice and I have the identical problem there must be others too.
The pop-up appears only if you are inserting a disk with data and files. If you are inserting an audio/video CD the pop-up does not appear, indeed.
To Serghei: so it may be reasonable to show Audio/Video CDs as well.
Yes, we can detect audio or blank CDs and offer apropriate actions. -- Serghei -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 08:11 Serghei said:
Yes, we can detect audio or blank CDs and offer apropriate actions.
Not sure who "we" is, but are you saying there is a move afoot to provide a Device Notifier for optical disks (CD, DVD) for openSUSE-KDE3 users? When might that be available, please? Regards, -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 14:21:24 Maurice wrote:
On 2012-04-09 at 08:11 Serghei said:
Yes, we can detect audio or blank CDs and offer apropriate actions.
Not sure who "we" is, but are you saying there is a move afoot to provide a Device Notifier for optical disks (CD, DVD) for openSUSE-KDE3 users?
"We", the community which still use KDE3 :) And yes, I intent to provide notifications for all devices supported by UDisks2.
When might that be available, please?
I'm not sure, an initial implementation should be done in 2-3 weeks.
/\/\aurice
PS Ilya, I think you should start to package kdelibs/kdebase with cmake support, at least for testing. -- Serghei -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 12:30 Serghei said:
an initial implementation should be done in 2-3 weeks.
Great! Let me know if you need a 'beta' tester... -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/04/09 14:30 (GMT+0300) Serghei Amelian composed:
"We", the community which still use KDE3 :) And yes, I intent to provide notifications for all devices supported by UDisks2.
an initial implementation should be done in 2-3 weeks.
Once done, will it be in yet another repo? Will it supplant or obsolete the HAL-enabled repo? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 17:42:50 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/04/09 14:30 (GMT+0300) Serghei Amelian composed:
"We", the community which still use KDE3 :) And yes, I intent to provide notifications for all devices supported by UDisks2.
an initial implementation should be done in 2-3 weeks.
Once done, will it be in yet another repo? Will it supplant or obsolete the HAL-enabled repo?
No idea, this is Ilya's decision. I'm not member of OpenSuse developement team. -- Serghei -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 15:21:24 Maurice wrote:
Yes, we can detect audio or blank CDs and offer apropriate actions.
Not sure who "we" is, but are you saying there is a move afoot to provide a Device Notifier for optical disks (CD, DVD) for openSUSE-KDE3 users?
When might that be available, please?
What format your disks are? If they contain files they should be displayed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 12:37 I said:
What format your disks are?
As I said earlier, they are: - Audio CD - Kubuntu 9.04 LiveCD - Family DVD (with menu) Any of the three causes a Device Notifier to appear in Mandriva 2010.2. (And VLC plays the DVD - including operating the DVD menu - as well as playing the audio CD, showing the actual CD's playlist titles, neither of which I have been able to achieve in openSUSE 12.1-kde3.) -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 15:53:06 Maurice wrote:
What format your disks are?
As I said earlier, they are:
- Audio CD - Kubuntu 9.04 LiveCD - Family DVD (with menu)
Any of the three causes a Device Notifier to appear in Mandriva 2010.2. (And VLC plays the DVD - including operating the DVD menu - as well as playing the audio CD, showing the actual CD's playlist titles, neither of which I have been able to achieve in openSUSE 12.1-kde3.)
I removed a filter that previously caused the CDs with no-filesystem usage property not shown. A CD with a film that previously was not shown in mediamanager is now shown for me. Just wait for the repository rebuild. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 15:58:27 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
What format your disks are?
As I said earlier, they are:
- Audio CD - Kubuntu 9.04 LiveCD - Family DVD (with menu)
Any of the three causes a Device Notifier to appear in Mandriva 2010.2. (And VLC plays the DVD - including operating the DVD menu - as well as playing the audio CD, showing the actual CD's playlist titles, neither of which I have been able to achieve in openSUSE 12.1-kde3.)
I removed a filter that previously caused the CDs with no-filesystem usage property not shown. A CD with a film that previously was not shown in mediamanager is now shown for me. Just wait for the repository rebuild.
Or you can update to the most recent package from KDE:KDE3 repository and manually under root remove from the file /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf the following line: usage = filesystem -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 13:07 Ilya said:
....remove from the file /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf
No sign of such a file here! ls -A /opt/kde3/share/config/ SuSE kdm ksim_panelextensionrc amarokrc khangmanrc ksircrc colors khotnewstuffrc ksplashrc ipv6blacklist kio_httprc ksslcalist katefiletyperc klettresrc kstarsrc katerc klipperrc kthemestylerc katesyntaxhighlightingrc kmail.antispamrc kvoctrainrc kbluetoothdrc kmail.antivirusrc kwin.eventsrc kcminputrc kmail.eventsrc kwordquizrc kdebug.areas kmailrc kxkb_groups kdebugrc kmplayerrc language.codes kdeglobals knotify.eventsrc libkleopatrarc kdeprintrc konqsidebartng.rc magic kderc konquerorrc profilerc kdesktop_custom_menu1 kookarc translaterc kdesktop_custom_menu2 kscdrc ui kdesktoprc kshorturifilterrc -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 16:51:10 Maurice wrote:
....remove from the file /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf
No sign of such a file here!
You should install the kdebase3 package from the KDE:KDE3 repository via Yast. The package in the main repo does not use udisks-glue, it uses devmon. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 13:58 Ilya said:
You should install the kdebase3 package from the KDE:KDE3 repository via Yast
Looking in YaST2 at the KDE:KDE3 repository contents, I can see entries for kdebase3 and numerous kdebase3-xxx packages, all ticked in the black box on the left - presumably meaning 'installed'. What am I supposed to do?! N.B. There is a line at the top of the table saying: "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository (KDE:KDE3)" Sounds a powerful option! Is that what I am supposed to do? Regards, -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 20:19:34 Maurice wrote:
You should install the kdebase3 package from the KDE:KDE3 repository via Yast
Looking in YaST2 at the KDE:KDE3 repository contents, I can see entries for kdebase3 and numerous kdebase3-xxx packages, all ticked in the black box on the left - presumably meaning 'installed'.
What am I supposed to do?!
On the "version" tab you can choose between packages from different repositories.
N.B. There is a line at the top of the table saying:
"Switch system packages to the versions in this repository (KDE:KDE3)"
Sounds a powerful option! Is that what I am supposed to do?
This also will help but it will switch ALL packages to the versions from KDE:KDE3. I think this should not break anything. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 17:48 Ilya said:
This also will help but it will switch ALL packages to the versions from KDE:KDE3. I think this should not break anything.
Tried it, but saw several red-flagged wanings, so cancelled. Same option with the hal-enabled repo didn't do that. Still no sign of udisks-glue.conf anywhere, though... Regards, -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 21:05:30 Maurice wrote:
This also will help but it will switch ALL packages to the versions from KDE:KDE3. I think this should not break anything.
Tried it, but saw several red-flagged wanings, so cancelled. Same option with the hal-enabled repo didn't do that.
Still no sign of udisks-glue.conf anywhere, though...
What warnings? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 18:14 I said:
What warnings?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2012-04-09 18:45:15 #### pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-1.1-1.2.i586 requires bluez >= 4.34, but this requirement cannot be provided [ ] deinstallation of pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-1.1-1.2.i586 [ ] break pulseaudio-module-bluetooth by ignoring some of its dependencies [ ] Following actions will be done: keep obsolete bluez-4.96-6.1.3.i586 keep obsolete libbluetooth3-4.96-6.1.3.i586 hplip-sane-3.11.10-3.1.2.i586 requires hplip-hpijs = 3.11.10-3.1.2, but this requirement cannot be provided [ ] deinstallation of hplip-sane-3.11.10-3.1.2.i586 [ ] keep obsolete hplip-hpijs-3.11.10-3.1.2.i586 [ ] break hplip-sane by ignoring some of its dependencies patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast-12.1-25.21.1.i586 requires yast2-control-center-qt, but this requirement cannot be provided [ ] deinstallation of patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast-12.1-25.21.1.i586 [ ] break patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast by ignoring some of its dependencies [ ] keep obsolete yast2-control-center-qt-2.21.7-2.1.2.i586 #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 21:47:09 Maurice wrote:
On 2012-04-09 at 18:14 I said:
What warnings?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2012-04-09 18:45:15 ####
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-1.1-1.2.i586 requires bluez >= 4.34, but this requirement cannot be provided
[ ] deinstallation of pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-1.1-1.2.i586
[ ] break pulseaudio-module-bluetooth by ignoring some of its dependencies
[ ] Following actions will be done: keep obsolete bluez-4.96-6.1.3.i586 keep obsolete libbluetooth3-4.96-6.1.3.i586
If you have bluetooth choose the third, if you haven't choose the first option.
hplip-sane-3.11.10-3.1.2.i586 requires hplip-hpijs = 3.11.10-3.1.2, but this requirement cannot be provided
[ ] deinstallation of hplip-sane-3.11.10-3.1.2.i586
[ ] keep obsolete hplip-hpijs-3.11.10-3.1.2.i586
[ ] break hplip-sane by ignoring some of its dependencies
If you have HP printer, choose 2 if you haven't, choose 1.
patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast-12.1-25.21.1.i586 requires yast2-control-center-qt, but this requirement cannot be provided
[ ] deinstallation of patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast-12.1-25.21.1.i586
[ ] break patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast by ignoring some of its dependencies
Choose 1. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 18:05 I said:
no sign of udisks-glue.conf anywhere, though...
After 'switching ALL packages to the versions from KDE:KDE3', I now have a file : /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf - but no sign of that line usage = filesystem to be removed: ----------------------------------------------------------------- filter disks { partition_table = false } default { post_insertion_command = "insertion\-notify %device_file" } match disks { automount = true automount_options = { sync, noatime } post_mount_command = "mount\-notify mounted %device_file %mount_point" post_unmount_command = "mount\-notify unmounted %device_file %mount_point" } ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 22:48:54 Maurice wrote:
On 2012-04-09 at 18:05 I said:
no sign of udisks-glue.conf anywhere, though...
After 'switching ALL packages to the versions from KDE:KDE3', I now have a file :
/opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf
- but no sign of that line
usage = filesystem
This is because you already have updated package. Reboot the computer and report whether the popup now works with CDs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-09 at 23:09 Ilya said:
- but no sign of that line
usage = filesystem
Reboot the computer and report whether the popup now works with CDs.
Sadly, no Device Notifier popup (except for e.g. USB flash drive), but: Audio CD: VLC plays it, when told to use /dev/cdrom DVD: VLC shows it, when told to use /dev/sr0 Data CD: k3b says: "MP3 audio decoder plugin not found" and "k3b unable to mount <title on CD>" (i.e. it reads the title on the CD but fails to mount it!) Looking in YaST's 'System Services', I can see that 'haldaemon' is running, but no sign of 'udisks'. Should there be? N.B. Looking in YaST Software Management, and using a filter of "udisk", it shows: udisks udisks-glue both ticked in the black box on the left, but 'service .. start' says "No such service" for 'udisks' and 'udisks-glue'. I wonder what needs doing (or undoing...)! Regards, -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:54:20 Maurice wrote:
Reboot the computer and report whether the popup now works with CDs.
Sadly, no Device Notifier popup (except for e.g. USB flash drive), but:
Audio CD: VLC plays it, when told to use /dev/cdrom DVD: VLC shows it, when told to use /dev/sr0 Data CD: k3b says: "MP3 audio decoder plugin not found" and "k3b unable to mount <title on CD>" (i.e. it reads the title on the CD but fails to mount it!)
Looking in YaST's 'System Services', I can see that 'haldaemon' is running, but no sign of 'udisks'. Should there be?
Press Ctrl+Esc and see.
N.B. Looking in YaST Software Management, and using a filter of "udisk", it shows:
udisks udisks-glue
both ticked in the black box on the left, but 'service .. start' says "No such service" for 'udisks' and 'udisks-glue'.
I wonder what needs doing (or undoing...)!
what returns command udisks --mount /dev/sr0 ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-10 at 18:57 Ilya said:
Looking in YaST's 'System Services', I can see that 'haldaemon' is running, but no sign of 'udisks'. Should there be?
Press Ctrl+Esc and see.
The resultant window showed rapidly varying information, and I could find no way of slowing it down, so v.difficult to spot anything! But there was no sign of 'udisks', thought there was 'udevd'.
N.B. Looking in YaST Software Management, and using a filter of "udisk", it shows:
udisks udisks-glue
both ticked in the black box on the left, but 'service .. start' says "No such service" for 'udisks' and 'udisks-glue'.
what returns command
udisks --mount /dev/sr0
With a DVD in /dev/sr0: "Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sr0 at /media/cdrom" With an audio CD: "Mount failed: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock With a data CD: "Mount failed: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error" N.B. My /etc/fstab has the entry: /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom auto umask=0,users,iocharset=utf8,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 (- the same as in my Mandriva 2010.2 /etc/fstab). However, if - as Root - I do 'mkdir /media/cdrom', the mount point '/media/cdrom' does not survive Shutdown/Reboot system. Why is this? (The other question (which I have asked repeatedly in here without response) is: What entry (if any) is needed in /etc/fstab w.r.t. /dev/sr0?) -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 23:09:38 Maurice wrote:
Looking in YaST's 'System Services', I can see that 'haldaemon' is running, but no sign of 'udisks'. Should there be?
Press Ctrl+Esc and see.
The resultant window showed rapidly varying information, and I could find no way of slowing it down,
lol. do you have kdebase3-ksysguardd installed???
so v.difficult to spot anything! But there was no sign of 'udisks', thought there was 'udevd'.
It is impossible if your USB drives mount. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-10 at 23:52 I said:
do you have kdebase3-ksysguardd installed???
I do now. And the task list now shows steady. -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-04-10 at 20:09 I said:
However, if - as Root - I do 'mkdir /media/cdrom', the mount point '/media/cdrom' does not survive Shutdown/Reboot system. Why is this? (The other question (which I have asked repeatedly in here without response) is: What entry (if any) is needed in /etc/fstab w.r.t. e.g. /dev/sr0?)
I really would like to know the answers to the above questions - please. Many thanks in advance... Regards, -- /\/\aurice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 April 2012 21:25:49 Maurice wrote:
However, if - as Root - I do 'mkdir /media/cdrom', the mount point '/media/cdrom' does not survive Shutdown/Reboot system. Why is this? (The other question (which I have asked repeatedly in here without response) is: What entry (if any) is needed in /etc/fstab w.r.t. e.g. /dev/sr0?)
I really would like to know the answers to the above questions - please.
I think you do not need creating mount points or editing fstab. If you do so it may damage normal functioning of automount. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Hi all, somewhat related to the device notifier discussion, I have a question about the (automatic?) classification of different devices. When I realized that the beloved icons which made unmounting USB sticks, attached cameras etc. easy were gone in 12.1, I tried the hal-enabled repo. But for some reason, this didn't work at all for me and the icons didn't return. Even worse, the device notifier windows were also gone. Thus I went back to the non-hal version. I more or less learned to live with the Storage Media icon, which points to media:/ in order to unmount these kind of devices after usage. More or less, because I have one problem. The desktop PC here has a built-in multi cardreader. Whenever I insert an SD card, it is classified as a harddrive (typically as sdf), shown with the harddrive icon in media:/ You can probably already guess it - I accidentally unmounted the real harddrive sda instead twice so far because the icons look the same. On my netbook with 11.1 Evergreen, the same SD card put into the SD card slot is recognized as Removable Media with the camera icon in media:/ Can I somehow force this kind of icon behavior in order to avoid mistaking the icons? If not, it would probably already help when the information on the size would return, i.e. in 11.1 Evergreen media:/ shows me directly under the icon that the harddrive has 130 GB, while 12.1 says only "Hard Disk". Happy Easter, Carolin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 16:55:46 Carolin Liefke wrote:
somewhat related to the device notifier discussion, I have a question about the (automatic?) classification of different devices.
When I realized that the beloved icons which made unmounting USB sticks, attached cameras etc. easy were gone in 12.1, I tried the hal-enabled repo. But for some reason, this didn't work at all for me and the icons didn't return. Even worse, the device notifier windows were also gone.
You should enable the hald service in Yast.
Thus I went back to the non-hal version. I more or less learned to live with the Storage Media icon, which points to media:/ in order to unmount these kind of devices after usage.
You also can use a kicker applet (although configure it to show all drives).
More or less, because I have one problem. The desktop PC here has a built-in multi cardreader. Whenever I insert an SD card, it is classified as a harddrive (typically as sdf), shown with the harddrive icon in media:/ You can probably already guess it - I accidentally unmounted the real harddrive sda instead twice so far because the icons look the same. On my netbook with 11.1 Evergreen, the same SD card put into the SD card slot is recognized as Removable Media with the camera icon in media:/
Can I somehow force this kind of icon behavior in order to avoid mistaking the icons? If not, it would probably already help when the information on the size would return, i.e. in 11.1 Evergreen media:/ shows me directly under the icon that the harddrive has 130 GB, while 12.1 says only "Hard Disk".
You can, but only by installing the packages from the hal-enabled repository AND enabling the hald service in Yast. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Ilya,
You can, but only by installing the packages from the hal-enabled repository AND enabling the hald service in Yast.
well, that's what I did. I even remember being somewhat annoyed to find out that I installed something from a repo called -enabled to find it disabled by default ;-) Nevertheless, starting the daemon didn't change the situation, that's all I can say. Guess I will wait for the media manager Serghei is going to set up and see how the different devices will be handled there. Maybe related to that, maybe not: Any ideas why konqueror tells me "Protocol not supported" when trying to access sysinfo:/ ? I see that there is only a kde4 package sysinfo now, but shouldn't it work anyway? Cheers, Carolin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 17:35:12 Carolin Liefke wrote:
You can, but only by installing the packages from the hal-enabled repository AND enabling the hald service in Yast.
well, that's what I did. I even remember being somewhat annoyed to find out that I installed something from a repo called -enabled to find it disabled by default ;-) Nevertheless, starting the daemon didn't change the situation, that's all I can say.
This behavior is not expected. Works well for me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/04/09 09:03 (GMT-0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
hal-enabled repository
Looking at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/ for 11.4 & 12.1 I'm unable to determine you mean by this. I have only one KDE3 repo showing in YaST2. My 11.4 has no /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf and so no "usage = filesystem" to remove. :-( -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Felix, it's a different repository that includes only those packages affected by HAL and that you have to add in addition: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3:/HAL-enabled/openSUSE_12... Cheers Carolin
Looking at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/ for 11.4 & 12.1 I'm unable to determine you mean by this. I have only one KDE3 repo showing in YaST2. My 11.4 has no /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf and so no "usage = filesystem" to remove. :-( -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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On Monday 09 April 2012 18:15:30 Carolin Liefke wrote:
it's a different repository that includes only those packages affected by HAL and that you have to add in addition: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3:/HAL-enabled/openSUSE_12...
The packages in the hal repository do not use udisks-glue either. Please do not confuse the people. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Ilya, ok, now it's me who is confused. You and me were talking about the hal-enabled repository, and Felix was asking about it, apparently not using it. Where he could find it was all I told him. I'm deeply grateful for your work, after all I would have to fight with Akonadi and the like instead of the minor issues I describe here, but still, I'm only a simple user who cannot help with deeper insight into the processes behind the surface. Carolin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 19:06:31 Carolin Liefke wrote:
Hi Ilya,
ok, now it's me who is confused. You and me were talking about the hal-enabled repository, and Felix was asking about it, apparently not using it.
No. Why you decided so? There is no hal-enabled for 11.4 because hal is enabled in both main repo and KDE:KDE3 for 11.4. All packages for 11.4 are hal-enabled. Hal has been removed from 12.1 onwards. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
HI Ilya, I didn't decide anything. Felix wrote "Looking at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/ for 11.4 & 12.1...", so maybe I should have made clearer that a link to a 12.1 repository is valid for 12.1 only. But I don't think this should discussed further on this list. Cheers Carolin
No. Why you decided so? There is no hal-enabled for 11.4 because hal is enabled in both main repo and KDE:KDE3 for 11.4. All packages for 11.4 are hal-enabled.
Hal has been removed from 12.1 onwards.
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On Monday 09 April 2012 18:03:42 Felix Miata wrote:
hal-enabled repository
Looking at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/ for 11.4 & 12.1 I'm unable to determine you mean by this. I have only one KDE3 repo showing in YaST2. My 11.4 has no /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf and so no "usage = filesystem" to remove. :-(
update the packages from KDE:KDE3 repository. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 09 April 2012 18:03:42 Felix Miata wrote:
hal-enabled repository
Looking at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/ for 11.4 & 12.1 I'm unable to determine you mean by this. I have only one KDE3 repo showing in YaST2. My 11.4 has no /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf and so no "usage = filesystem" to remove. :-(
The packages for 11.4 are still bulding with HAL support because in 11.4 hal was in the main repo. Do you experience this problem with optical disks with hal backend as well? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/04/09 19:05 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
hal-enabled repository
Looking at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/ for 11.4& 12.1 I'm unable to determine you mean by this. I have only one KDE3 repo showing in YaST2. My 11.4 has no /opt/kde3/share/config/udisks-glue.conf and so no "usage = filesystem" to remove. :-(
The packages for 11.4 are still bulding with HAL support because in 11.4 hal was in the main repo. Do you experience this problem with optical disks with hal backend as well?
My problem is unpredictability. I never know how long to wait to see whether the popup window will appear after inserting a disk or stick before I can proceed to work without interruption in K3B, SMplayer or other apps that care about what's located on removable media. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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