From drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com Wed May 17 07:19:32 2023 From: "David C. Rankin" To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: katepart CSS syntax highlight css.xml highlight fails, but css-php.xml does just fine? Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 02:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2103078616778768885==" --===============2103078616778768885== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please confirm, In kate/kwrite, opening a .css file which invokes the katepart syntax/css.xml syntax file does not properly highlight the css. However, if the CSS is part of a php file, then the css-php.xml file provides perfect CSS syntax highlight. The bewildering thing is aside from the addition in css-php.xml to include the findphp syntax, the CSS content of both files is identical. If this can be confirmed, this is a bug and the css.xml file will need to be fixed. I've checked the TDE source (tdelibs/kate/syntax) and the syntax file used by TDE is the same as we have for KDE3. Let me know. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. --===============2103078616778768885==-- From drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com Fri May 19 10:47:29 2023 From: "David C. Rankin" To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: katepart CSS syntax highlight css.xml highlight fails, but css-php.xml does just fine? Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 05:47:12 -0500 Message-ID: <208e6b91-545f-a69e-261d-d90ebceba1e1@suddenlinkmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0334240864467084653==" --===============0334240864467084653== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/17/23 02:08, David C. Rankin wrote: > Please confirm, >=20 > =C2=A0 In kate/kwrite, opening a .css file which invokes the katepart=20 > syntax/css.xml syntax file does not properly highlight the css. >=20 > =C2=A0 However, if the CSS is part of a php file, then the css-php.xml fil= e=20 > provides perfect CSS syntax highlight. >=20 > =C2=A0 The bewildering thing is aside from the addition in css-php.xml to = include=20 > the findphp syntax, the CSS content of both files is identical. >=20 > =C2=A0 If this can be confirmed, this is a bug and the css.xml file will n= eed to=20 > be fixed. I've checked the TDE source (tdelibs/kate/syntax) and the syntax = > file used by TDE is the same as we have for KDE3. >=20 > =C2=A0 Let me know. Thanks. >=20 Additionally, inline styles (e.g. between in .html docs = is also fine. It is just in the pure text/css style-sheets alone (e.g. your 'site.css' file= )=20 where the css syntax highlight is messed up. (and you cannot have tags in a .css style-sheet) --=20 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. --===============0334240864467084653==-- From mrmazda@earthlink.net Tue May 30 05:02:37 2023 From: Felix Miata To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [kde3] system sounds in 15.5 Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 00:57:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4460962697867670120==" --===============4460962697867670120== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did a fresh minimal (no-recommends) installation with only IceWM, then toda= y: zypper in kdebase3 kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-session kdebase3-runtime kdebase3-wo= rkspace kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-apps kdeutils3 kdegraphics3 kdeaddons3-kicker For sound, this is (what I'm guessing covers) the current installed state: # rpm -qa | egrep 'alsa|arts|gstr|jack|mix|pavu|puls|gstr|sof-f|vlc|wire' | s= ort alsa-1.2.8-150500.1.1.x86_64 alsa-plugins-jack-1.2.7.1-150500.1.1.x86_64 alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.8-150500.1.1.noarch alsa-utils-1.2.8-150500.1.2.x86_64 jack-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libjack0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libjacknet0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libjackserver0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libpipewire-0_3-0-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 libpulse0-15.0-150400.2.10.x86_64 libwireplumber-0_4-0-0.4.13-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-module-x11-0_3-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-modules-0_3-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-spa-tools-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-tools-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 sof-firmware-2.2.4-150500.1.1.noarch wireplumber-0.4.13-150500.1.2.x86_64 wireplumber-audio-0.4.13-150500.1.2.noarch # systemctl --global --user status pipewire.{service,socket} =E2=97=8F pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; vendor= preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-05-30 00:33:48 EDT; 2min 28s ago TriggeredBy: =E2=97=8F pipewire.socket Main PID: 1580 (pipewire) Tasks: 3 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/pipewire= .service =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 1580 /usr/bin/pipewire May 30 00:33:48 gx780 systemd[692]: Started PipeWire Multimedia Service. =E2=97=8F pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Socket Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.socket; enabled; vendor p= reset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-05-30 00:21:11 EDT; 15min ago Triggers: =E2=97=8F pipewire.service Listen: /run/user/0/pipewire-0 (Stream) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/app.slice/pipewire.soc= ket May 30 00:21:11 gx780 systemd[692]: Listening on PipeWire Multimedia System S= ocket. # systemctl --global --user status wireplumber =E2=97=8F wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; vend= or preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-05-30 00:33:48 EDT; 2min 34s ago Main PID: 1581 (wireplumber) Tasks: 4 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/wireplum= ber.service =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 1581 /usr/bin/wireplumber May 30 00:33:48 gx780 systemd[692]: Started Multimedia Service Session Manage= r. May 30 00:33:48 gx780 wireplumber[1581]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.free= desktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner # inxi -Aaz Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801JD/DO HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3a6e class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k5.14.21-150500.52-default status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.12 status: off tools: jack_control Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.64 status: active with: 1: wireplumber status: active 2: pipewire-alsa type: plugin tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl # This works via the motherboard's pin jack connected to PC speakers: # aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian,= Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo # KDE system sounds don't. KControl opened to Sound System reports: "Unable to start the sound server to retrieve possible sound I/O methods. Only automatic detection will be available." What's the best mixer to install? Does a *wire*-based mixer exist? What's needed to get system sounds working, and eliminate the KControl error? --=20 Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata --===============4460962697867670120==-- From drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com Tue May 30 07:02:27 2023 From: "David C. Rankin" To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [kde3] system sounds in 15.5 Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 02:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5504109841194656064==" --===============5504109841194656064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/29/23 23:57, Felix Miata wrote: > What's the best mixer to install? Does a*wire*-based mixer exist? >=20 > What's needed to get system sounds working, and eliminate the KControl erro= r? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire Has some things to check. E.g., you have to remove pulseaudio-alsa if it was = installed in order to route all applications using the ALSA API through PipeW= ire. I'll be eagerly watching this thread... --=20 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. --===============5504109841194656064==-- From drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com Tue May 30 08:56:00 2023 From: "David C. Rankin" To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [kde3] system sounds in 15.5 Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 03:55:42 -0500 Message-ID: <94754cc9-d9fa-f45c-f120-ad118c6486f5@suddenlinkmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3916513700314707062==" --===============3916513700314707062== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/30/23 02:02, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 5/29/23 23:57, Felix Miata wrote: >> What's the best mixer to install? Does a*wire*-based mixer exist? >> >> What's needed to get system sounds working, and eliminate the KControl err= or? >=20 > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire >=20 > Has some things to check. E.g., you have to remove pulseaudio-alsa if it wa= s=20 > installed in order to route all applications using the ALSA API through Pip= eWire. >=20 > I'll be eagerly watching this thread... >=20 This also brings up a good point that we should start an openSUSE/KDE3 Wiki t= o=20 capture configurations with libraries like pulseaudio and pipewire released=20 after KDE3. (it would also be good to provide an index of patches and the upgraded=20 features provided, e.g. xz - konqueror file management, svg - svg2 bug fixes,= =20 etc..) --=20 David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. --===============3916513700314707062==-- From mrmazda@earthlink.net Wed May 31 03:37:22 2023 From: Felix Miata To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [kde3] system sounds in 15.5 Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 23:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: <17477a86-caca-f789-ca82-1f685c709931@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8972469903082040988==" --===============8972469903082040988== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David C. Rankin composed on 2023-05-30 02:02 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> What's the best mixer to install? Does a*wire*-based mixer exist? >> What's needed to get system sounds working, and eliminate the KControl err= or? > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire > Has some things to check. E.g., you have to remove pulseaudio-alsa if it wa= s=20 > installed in order to route all applications using the ALSA API through Pip= eWire. > I'll be eagerly watching this thread... What I was hoping for was KDE3-specifics. e.g., which, if any, kdemultimedia3* packages are indispensible. Gstreamer*? Is there a better mixer? Is kamix bet= ter than kdemultimedia3-mixer? OT: does 15.5 still need desktop-data-openSUSE-15.0.20171024-lp153.1.53.noarch instead of 15.2.20200107-lp155.2.2? --=20 Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata --===============8972469903082040988==-- From mrmazda@earthlink.net Wed May 31 05:03:22 2023 From: Felix Miata To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [kde3] system sounds in 15.5 Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 01:03:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2144766770139190181==" --===============2144766770139190181== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felix Miata composed on 2023-05-30 00:57 (UTC-0400): > I did a fresh minimal (no-recommends) installation with only IceWM, then to= day: > zypper in kdebase3 kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-session kdebase3-runtime kdebase3-= workspace kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-apps kdeutils3 kdegraphics3 kdeaddons3-kicker =20 Same PC has 15.4, in which KDE3 system sounds work as expected: # rpm -qa | egrep 'alsa|arts|audio|gstr|jack|mix|pavu|puls|sof-f|sound|vlc|wi= re' | sort alsa-1.2.6.1-150400.1.4.x86_64 alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.6.3-150400.1.4.noarch alsa-utils-1.2.6-150400.1.4.x86_64 arts-1.5.10-lp154.39.66.x86_64 gstreamer-1.20.1-150400.1.5.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-1.20.1-150400.1.9.x86_64 kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-lp154.243.1.x86_64 kdemultimedia3-arts-3.5.10.1-lp154.81.1.x86_64 kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10.1-lp154.81.1.x86_64 kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.10.1-lp154.81.1.x86_64 libasound2-1.2.6.1-150400.1.4.x86_64 libaudiofile1-0.3.6-3.7.10.x86_64 libgstaudio-1_0-0-1.20.1-150400.1.9.x86_64 libgstreamer-1_0-0-1.20.1-150400.1.5.x86_64 libgstriff-1_0-0-1.20.1-150400.1.9.x86_64 libjack0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libpipewire-0_3-0-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 libpulse0-15.0-150400.2.10.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-1.35.x86_64 libwireplumber-0_4-0-0.4.9-150400.3.3.2.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 pipewire-modules-0_3-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 pipewire-spa-tools-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 pipewire-tools-0.3.49-150400.1.5.x86_64 sof-firmware-2.0-150400.1.4.noarch wireplumber-0.4.9-150400.3.3.2.x86_64 wireplumber-audio-0.4.9-150400.3.3.2.noarch # systemctl --global --user status pipewire.{service,socket} =E2=97=8F pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; vendor= preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-05-30 01:22:23 EDT; 4min 59s ago TriggeredBy: =E2=97=8F pipewire.socket Main PID: 897 (pipewire) Tasks: 2 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/pipewire= .service =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 897 /usr/bin/pipewire May 30 01:22:23 gx780 systemd[721]: Started PipeWire Multimedia Service. =E2=97=8F pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Socket Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.socket; enabled; vendor p= reset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-05-30 01:22:18 EDT; 5min ago Triggers: =E2=97=8F pipewire.service Listen: /run/user/0/pipewire-0 (Stream) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/app.slice/pipewire.soc= ket May 30 01:22:18 gx780 systemd[721]: Listening on PipeWire Multimedia System S= ocket. # systemctl --global --user status wireplumber =E2=97=8F wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; vend= or preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-05-30 01:22:23 EDT; 5min ago Main PID: 898 (wireplumber) Tasks: 4 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/wireplum= ber.service =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 898 /usr/bin/wireplumber May 30 01:22:23 gx780 systemd[721]: Started Multimedia Service Session Manage= r. # I did the best I could manager to match installed packages on 15.5 to those on 15.4. It wound up with a slightly different total apparently due to some chan= ged deps, but KDE3 system sounds do not work (yet aplay does): # rpm -qa | egrep 'alsa|arts|audio|gstr|jack|mix|pavu|puls|gstr|sof-f|sound|v= lc|wire' | sort alsa-1.2.8-150500.1.1.x86_64 alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.8-150500.1.1.noarch alsa-utils-1.2.8-150500.1.2.x86_64 arts-1.5.10-lp155.39.30.x86_64 gstreamer-1.22.0-150500.1.1.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-1.22.0-150500.1.2.x86_64 kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-lp155.243.12.x86_64 kdemultimedia3-arts-3.5.10.1-lp155.81.4.x86_64 kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10.1-lp155.81.4.x86_64 kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.10.1-lp155.81.4.x86_64 libasound2-1.2.8-150500.1.1.x86_64 libaudiofile1-0.3.6-3.7.10.x86_64 libgstaudio-1_0-0-1.22.0-150500.1.2.x86_64 libgstreamer-1_0-0-1.22.0-150500.1.1.x86_64 libgstriff-1_0-0-1.22.0-150500.1.2.x86_64 libjack0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libjacknet0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libjackserver0-1.9.12-150000.3.3.1.x86_64 libpipewire-0_3-0-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 libpulse0-15.0-150400.2.10.x86_64 libwebrtc_audio_processing1-0.3-1.35.x86_64 libwireplumber-0_4-0-0.4.13-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-modules-0_3-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-spa-tools-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 pipewire-tools-0.3.64-150500.1.2.x86_64 sof-firmware-2.2.4-150500.1.1.noarch wireplumber-0.4.13-150500.1.2.x86_64 wireplumber-audio-0.4.13-150500.1.2.noarch yast2-sound-4.5.0-150500.1.5.x86_64 # systemctl --global --user status pipewire.{service,socket} =E2=97=8F pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; vendor= preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-05-31 00:46:32 EDT; 1min 2s ago TriggeredBy: =E2=97=8F pipewire.socket Main PID: 1457 (pipewire) Tasks: 2 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/pipewire= .service =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 1457 /usr/bin/pipewire May 31 00:46:32 gx780 systemd[692]: Started PipeWire Multimedia Service. =E2=97=8F pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Socket Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.socket; enabled; vendor p= reset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-05-31 00:37:24 EDT; 10min ago Triggers: =E2=97=8F pipewire.service Listen: /run/user/0/pipewire-0 (Stream) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/app.slice/pipewire.soc= ket May 31 00:37:24 gx780 systemd[692]: Listening on PipeWire Multimedia System S= ocket. # systemctl --global --user status wireplumber =E2=97=8F wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; vend= or preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-05-31 00:46:32 EDT; 1min 8s ago Main PID: 1458 (wireplumber) Tasks: 4 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/wireplum= ber.service =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 1458 /usr/bin/wireplumber May 31 00:46:32 gx780 systemd[692]: Started Multimedia Service Session Manage= r. May 31 00:46:32 gx780 wireplumber[1458]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.free= desktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner # :( --=20 Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata --===============2144766770139190181==-- From mrmazda@earthlink.net Wed May 31 05:22:32 2023 From: Felix Miata To: kde3@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [kde3] system sounds in 15.5 Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 01:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: <059629b0-6b41-9f76-7523-ee81de8d503f@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2473799358617476278==" --===============2473799358617476278== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felix Miata composed on 2023-05-31 01:03 (UTC-0400): > I did the best I could manager to match installed packages on 15.5 to those= on > 15.4. It wound up with a slightly different total apparently due to some ch= anged > deps, but KDE3 system sounds do not work (yet aplay does): I got KDE3 system sounds to work: 1: # zypper in pipewire-libjack-0_3 2: manually select Jack audio device in KControl sound system hardware. --=20 Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata --===============2473799358617476278==--