[opensuse-gnome] Re: [opensuse] Seriously thinking to switch to LinuxMint 15
Il 27/10/2013 23:49, John Andersen ha scritto:
On 10/27/2013 05:23 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:
As I wrote I can send perfectly over Bluetooth toward the same Linux box where 12.3 is running as main O.S. but using different guest O.S. running as virtual-machines.
Somebody has to own the bluetooth. Its going to be the host os or the guest os.
If it works sending files to the host os via bluetooth on Opensuse 12.3 then Opensuse is doing its job and there is no problem.
If that doesn't work on a guest os you have a problem with how your VM software handles shared devices. Its a question for what ever list deals with that Virtual Machine software.
I resolved Bluetooth problem by reverting previous Gnome-3.8 Stable to default. I upgraded Gnome-3.6 to 3.8 some times ago but couldn't suppose that it could broke Bluetooth. Now I roll-backed Gnome to default openSUSE 12.3 version and Bluetooth works perfectly send/receive! Later I will check if also power-management now works as I expect with my laptop. This served me as lesson: to avoid upgrading things before the final official release be ready but also sometimes is good to experiment new things. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-default Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Il 28/10/2013 00:31, Marco Calistri ha scritto:
Il 27/10/2013 23:49, John Andersen ha scritto:
On 10/27/2013 05:23 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:
As I wrote I can send perfectly over Bluetooth toward the same Linux box where 12.3 is running as main O.S. but using different guest O.S. running as virtual-machines.
Somebody has to own the bluetooth. Its going to be the host os or the guest os.
If it works sending files to the host os via bluetooth on Opensuse 12.3 then Opensuse is doing its job and there is no problem.
If that doesn't work on a guest os you have a problem with how your VM software handles shared devices. Its a question for what ever list deals with that Virtual Machine software.
I resolved Bluetooth problem by reverting previous Gnome-3.8 Stable to default.
I upgraded Gnome-3.6 to 3.8 some times ago but couldn't suppose that it could broke Bluetooth.
Now I roll-backed Gnome to default openSUSE 12.3 version and Bluetooth works perfectly send/receive!
Later I will check if also power-management now works as I expect with my laptop.
This served me as lesson: to avoid upgrading things before the final official release be ready but also sometimes is good to experiment new things.
Cheers,
Power-management is still not working for my laptop (Lenovo Z470) despite I installed kernel-default and revert back to standard Gnome version 3.6.2. When battery reaches critical level my laptop simply shutdown despite I set to hibernate when critical charge. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-default Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Marco Calistri
I resolved Bluetooth problem by reverting previous Gnome-3.8 Stable to default.
I upgraded Gnome-3.6 to 3.8 some times ago but couldn't suppose that it could broke Bluetooth.
13.1 will ship with a broken KDE bluetooth, so don't expect it to work for a week or two after release. Greg -- Greg Freemyer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Il 02/11/2013 12:53, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Marco Calistri
wrote: I resolved Bluetooth problem by reverting previous Gnome-3.8 Stable to default.
I upgraded Gnome-3.6 to 3.8 some times ago but couldn't suppose that it could broke Bluetooth.
13.1 will ship with a broken KDE bluetooth, so don't expect it to work for a week or two after release.
Greg -- Greg Freemyer
Just curios: Why openSUSE decided to ship something broken? May be 13.1 should keep RC status until all broken stuff being ajusted, or not? Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.8.3 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 15:37 -0200, Marco Calistri wrote:
Just curios:
Why openSUSE decided to ship something broken?
Sometimes it's better to know about something not working as opposed to believe it works and won't be maintainable.
May be 13.1 should keep RC status until all broken stuff being ajusted, or not?
ALL broken stuff? Uff.. that will be hard :)
I think as long as the message is clear that if you rely on BT and run
KDE, there is a chance it won't work, it's a great statement. Together
with Fedora we're pushing hard to make the full bluez5 stack work asap.
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Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger
Il 07/11/2013 15:47, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger ha scritto:
On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 15:37 -0200, Marco Calistri wrote:
Just curios:
Why openSUSE decided to ship something broken?
Sometimes it's better to know about something not working as opposed to believe it works and won't be maintainable.
May be 13.1 should keep RC status until all broken stuff being ajusted, or not?
ALL broken stuff? Uff.. that will be hard :)
I think as long as the message is clear that if you rely on BT and run KDE, there is a chance it won't work, it's a great statement. Together with Fedora we're pushing hard to make the full bluez5 stack work asap.
Hi Dominique! Would like to underline that mine was not a flame nor a critic against the developers of openSUSE! It is possible that many of the problems faced during the build of a new distribution release are not always known by the mass of users. I have heard about the Bluetooth stack issue but I was not confident about the fact that 13.1 will include it unconditionally, despite being broken. [May be it is not possible to use older BT-stack along with new kernel and libs]. I prefer Gnome versus KDE, despite that new environment of G version 3.0 and beyond doesn't represents any more my ideal of DE (for this reason I installed MATE). Thanks and good luck! -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.8.3 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
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Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger
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Greg Freemyer
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Marco Calistri