2010/6/23 Rastislav Krupanský :

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-----Original Message----- From: Sankar P [mailto:sankar.curiosity@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:32 PM To: The Wonderful GNOME Monkeys Subject: [opensuse-gnome] 11.3 GNOME First look

Hi,

Though I have been running some factory packages for a while, I just managed to do a full GNOME install of 11.3 on a bare metal and below are some feedback.

- Login time is amazing. It seemed almost instantaneous since the moment I clicked on Login in GDM and the panel appeared with background loaded

Could you try autologin. I´m wondering if it´s amazing also in your case. Because i have no feeling with autologin it´s amazing fast.

After the screen-blanking (as part of booting), I get the panel and background loaded in ~2 seconds, substantially faster than 11.2 -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

2010/6/23 Rastislav Krupanský :

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-----Original Message----- From: Sankar P [mailto:sankar.curiosity@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:19 AM To: Rastislav Krupanský Cc: The Wonderful GNOME Monkeys Subject: Re: [opensuse-gnome] 11.3 GNOME First look

2010/6/23 Rastislav Krupanský :

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-----Original Message----- From: Sankar P [mailto:sankar.curiosity@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:32 PM To: The Wonderful GNOME Monkeys Subject: [opensuse-gnome] 11.3 GNOME First look

Hi,

Though I have been running some factory packages for a while, I just managed to do a full GNOME install of 11.3 on a bare metal and below are some feedback.

- Login time is amazing. It seemed almost instantaneous since the moment I clicked on Login in GDM and the panel appeared with background loaded

Could you try autologin. I´m wondering if it´s amazing also in your case. Because i have no feeling with autologin it´s amazing fast.

After the screen-blanking (as part of booting), I get the panel and background loaded in ~2 seconds, substantially faster than 11.2

Huh, pretty quickly loaded. Which one build are you trying? RC1-build675, or any factory build?

I installed RC1 build and then running Vuntz's gdm packages. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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On 6/24/2010 at 08:03 PM, in message <20100624143347.GX1996@vuntz.net>, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi,

Le mercredi 23 juin 2010, à 01:01 +0530, Sankar P a écrit :

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Hi,

Though I have been running some factory packages for a while, I just managed to do a full GNOME install of 11.3 on a bare metal and below are some feedback.

- Login time is amazing. It seemed almost instantaneous since the moment I clicked on Login in GDM and the panel appeared with background loaded

- Logout OTOH seem to take a lot more time than what it took with 11.2 In fact everytime when I select logout from gnome-do's menu, it takes atleast 10 seconds till I get my GDM screen (4G RAM machine)

No idea why this would happen.

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- I tried installing "Google Chrome". I downloaded the rpm and clicked on it to be installed by "Install/Remove software". There were some missing dependencies (libjpeg, lsb) and "Install software" did not complain about the missing packages. It just went on infinitely moving the progress bar. So I had to cancel that and resume the installation from terminal (which is how I came to know of the missing packages)

This is probably the same as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615567

We'll have an online update for PackageKit after 11.3 is out, and that should fix it. See the PackageKit package in home:sreeves1:test_branch.

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- Sonar icon theme is not installed by default (installed my system from the live-cd) (Isnt sonar the default theme ?)

Sonar is the default GTK+ theme, but not the default icon theme. There was not enough size on the livecd (now there is, but it's too late).

If I select themes from the right-click menu on desktop, I see an error message: The selected theme will not work properly as the corresponding icon set is not installed (or) some error message on these lines. It kind of appears bad if we show such an error for a default install. I (and many others I believe) have been using sonar-icon theme and it will be nice if we can get it packaged.

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- There is a lot of screen flickering during booting. Atleast 3 times, the screen goes colourless (not blank) with only busy mouse pointer shown. This flickering instead of showing the splash screen and gdm screen, is a usability problem.

I guess having some plymouth love during the next cycle would help.

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Last but not the least, booting is fast.

Vincent

Sankar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:

Le jeudi 24 juin 2010, à 10:37 -0600, Sankar P a écrit :

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On 6/24/2010 at 08:03 PM, in message <20100624143347.GX1996@vuntz.net>, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi,

Le mercredi 23 juin 2010, à 01:01 +0530, Sankar P a écrit :

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- Sonar icon theme is not installed by default (installed my system from the live-cd) (Isnt sonar the default theme ?)

Sonar is the default GTK+ theme, but not the default icon theme. There was not enough size on the livecd (now there is, but it's too late).

If I select themes from the right-click menu on desktop, I see an error message:

The selected theme will not work properly as the corresponding icon set is not installed

(or) some error message on these lines.

Ah, well, it's not really an error. It turns out it recommends the use of the icon theme. /usr/share/themes/Sonar/index.theme should be changed to recommend the icon theme we use by default (gilouche? I forgot)

Any volunteer?

Requests created: 42021

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It kind of appears bad if we show such an error for a default install. I (and many others I believe) have been using sonar-icon theme and it will be nice if we can get it packaged.

zypper in sonar-icon-theme

Yes, it is very easy to get this installed later. But a warning/error message on default installation on first-look wont give a good impression, which is what I was worried about. Thanks. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Le jeudi 24 juin 2010, à 23:10 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya a écrit :

On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:33 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hi,

Le mercredi 23 juin 2010, à 01:01 +0530, Sankar P a écrit :

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- Sonar icon theme is not installed by default (installed my system from the live-cd) (Isnt sonar the default theme ?)

Sonar is the default GTK+ theme, but not the default icon theme. There was not enough size on the livecd (now there is, but it's too late).

I feel quite bad about the sonar-icon-theme not making it as a default theme to 11.3. Of course, I will install and use it anyway, now that I have seen how brilliant it looks with all the new icons for the toolbars and everything on 11.3. But a new user who does not know about the sonar-icon-theme is stuck with an icon theme that does not gel well at all with the 11.2/11.3 branding. There is of course https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559550 and the package is also available from the oss repository. Given the great first impression it makes, it would be, very useful to get this into the DVD and default gnome pattern, and the Live-CD now that there is enough space. Can't we get this in by RC2, or make a special request about it or something?

Feel free to ask coolo. But IMHO, RC2 is quite late for this. And yes, I would have loved to have it by default. Note that we do have enough size now only because a language got removed very recently from the livecd. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Il giorno gio, 24/06/2010 alle 21.11 +0200, Rastislav Krupanský ha scritto:

Dňa 24.06.2010 20:02, Vincent Untz wrote / napísal(a):

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Le jeudi 24 juin 2010, à 23:10 +0530, Atri Bhattacharya a écrit :

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On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:33 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hi,

Le mercredi 23 juin 2010, à 01:01 +0530, Sankar P a écrit :

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- Sonar icon theme is not installed by default (installed my system from the live-cd) (Isnt sonar the default theme ?)

Sonar is the default GTK+ theme, but not the default icon theme. There was not enough size on the livecd (now there is, but it's too late).

I feel quite bad about the sonar-icon-theme not making it as a default theme to 11.3. Of course, I will install and use it anyway, now that I have seen how brilliant it looks with all the new icons for the toolbars and everything on 11.3. But a new user who does not know about the sonar-icon-theme is stuck with an icon theme that does not gel well at all with the 11.2/11.3 branding. There is of course https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559550 and the package is also available from the oss repository. Given the great first impression it makes, it would be, very useful to get this into the DVD and default gnome pattern, and the Live-CD now that there is enough space. Can't we get this in by RC2, or make a special request about it or something?

Feel free to ask coolo. But IMHO, RC2 is quite late for this. And yes, I would have loved to have it by default. Note that we do have enough size now only because a language got removed very recently from the livecd.

Vincent

And what would happen if final 11.3 would be released a day, or a week later?

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S pozdravom / Best regards,

Rasto

Mmmh... Perhaps Untz and the others developers responsible for the delay, would be severely punished by Novell :-P -- Marco Calistri