On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 12:38 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:

Le mardi 19 novembre 2013 à 12:12 +0100, Olaf Hering a écrit :

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The screen saver always wants either a mouse click+move or keyboard input to show the desktop again. Is there a way to get normal behaviour? At least in 11.4 it was possible to either just move the mouse or press CTRL or SHIFT or such keys to show the screen contents again. In control center I found no setting which would allow that again.

I agree the current behavior is too much "touch" oriented. We should try to detect if a touch screen is there and if not, make the "shield" move as soon as a "modifier" key is pressed (currently, only a "non dead" key is moving the shield) or a single click is done (click + hold isn't great with a mouse / trackpad)..

I never scroll up the "shield", just hit Enter. But there maybe problem when the system has lots work in the background, you have to wait for a relative long time to see the passwd screen. I also expect that if it can detect touch-screen automatically, rather than throw all the things into "touch" world. Best regard.

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Le mercredi 20 novembre 2013 à 08:39 -0600, Michael Catanzaro a écrit :

On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 15:44 +0800, Roy Mu wrote:

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I never scroll up the "shield", just hit Enter. But there maybe problem when the system has lots work in the background, you have to wait for a relative long time to see the passwd screen. New in 13.1, you should be able to simply start typing your password and it will Just Work. Alternatively, any non-modifier key will lift the shield, so if you were trying to use Shift to raise it that was pretty much the only key that doesn't work. I don't know why modifier keys were excluded.

Unfortunately, it is not really obvious for people not used to it (start typing the password is nice for "expert"). Which is why I'm advocating for handling modifier and simple mouse click (and maybe some text should be added to the shield, but I'm not 100% convinced for this). -- Frederic Crozat SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org

Le jeudi 28 novembre 2013 à 16:54 +0100, Olaf Hering a écrit :

On Wed, Nov 20, Frederic Crozat wrote:

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Le mercredi 20 novembre 2013 à 08:39 -0600, Michael Catanzaro a écrit :

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On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 15:44 +0800, Roy Mu wrote:

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I never scroll up the "shield", just hit Enter. But there maybe problem when the system has lots work in the background, you have to wait for a relative long time to see the passwd screen. New in 13.1, you should be able to simply start typing your password and it will Just Work. Alternatively, any non-modifier key will lift the shield, so if you were trying to use Shift to raise it that was pretty much the only key that doesn't work. I don't know why modifier keys were excluded.

Unfortunately, it is not really obvious for people not used to it (start typing the password is nice for "expert"). Which is why I'm advocating for handling modifier and simple mouse click (and maybe some text should be added to the shield, but I'm not 100% convinced for this).

Also consider the "Blank Screen"+"No Password" case. In this setup just moving the mouse or pressing _any_ key has to show the desktop right away.

Agreed (I'm not 100% sure it is the case ATM). -- Frederic Crozat SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org