[opensuse-gnome] Unfinished business...(?!)
Hello all, This email is a bit of a rant, which may (will) contain some factual errors, but it is an honest email, and any help on would be much appreciated :-) I just had a quick read back with regards to more or less important emails we send to this list and it seems that we're good at starting things, but not so good at finishing them... Some things come up more than once, but no decision (or progress) seem to be made, or at least none that is actually announced back to the list (and some are "completely forgotten"/"lagging"); A few topics; ============= G:C - Contrib Cleaning up the menus Dropping packages GNOME WIKI Update GNOME 2.24, One Click Update 11.1 Feature Review Keeping/Removing greeter We also seem to "forget" topics that we have talked about, due to people being responsible for those topics either didn't come along anymore, or they got busy with other things (discuss next IRC meeting topic etc). So... Regardless of "factual errors" above, I think we do need a way to track "issues" that are brought up. In the past, we tried to use both the WIKI and RTM, but neither of them worked due to either the admin overhead, or the fact that people must sign up and check one more site for stuff... My question is, what should/could we do to keep track of issues/suggestions/improvements etc so that 1) it's always kept up-to-date and 2) we can ensure that it's followed through... Sorry for the rant but... Currently sitting in "QLD - The sunshine state in Australia" and it's raining :-) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:05 +1000, Magnus Boman wrote:
Hello all,
This email is a bit of a rant, which may (will) contain some factual errors, but it is an honest email, and any help on would be much appreciated :-)
I just had a quick read back with regards to more or less important emails we send to this list and it seems that we're good at starting things, but not so good at finishing them...
Some things come up more than once, but no decision (or progress) seem to be made, or at least none that is actually announced back to the list (and some are "completely forgotten"/"lagging");
A few topics; ============= G:C - Contrib Cleaning up the menus Dropping packages GNOME WIKI Update GNOME 2.24, One Click Update 11.1 Feature Review Keeping/Removing greeter
We also seem to "forget" topics that we have talked about, due to people being responsible for those topics either didn't come along anymore, or they got busy with other things (discuss next IRC meeting topic etc).
So... Regardless of "factual errors" above, I think we do need a way to track "issues" that are brought up.
In the past, we tried to use both the WIKI and RTM, but neither of them worked due to either the admin overhead, or the fact that people must sign up and check one more site for stuff...
My question is, what should/could we do to keep track of issues/suggestions/improvements etc so that 1) it's always kept up-to-date and 2) we can ensure that it's followed through...
I think the problem is how we track those tasks, since we don't use the
wiki nor RTM for that, these tend to just not be tracked at all. So, why
not use Bugzilla for this? I know we were waiting for the proper
components and products to be created, but since that seemed stucked,
why not use what we have right now in Bugzilla and start tracking these
issues there?
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Rodrigo Moya
Le mercredi 05 novembre 2008, à 18:05 +1000, Magnus Boman a écrit :
My question is, what should/could we do to keep track of issues/suggestions/improvements etc so that 1) it's always kept up-to-date and 2) we can ensure that it's followed through...
I agree with the issue (found out about the ggreeter stuff just before you sent the mail -- I'll raise it tonight during the meeting). Bugzilla bugs would work for me, or someone pinging every now and then. But I understand that bugzilla might not work for everybody :/ I guess having someone who makes sure that stuff gets done would really help. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 18:24 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le mercredi 05 novembre 2008, à 18:05 +1000, Magnus Boman a écrit :
My question is, what should/could we do to keep track of issues/suggestions/improvements etc so that 1) it's always kept up-to-date and 2) we can ensure that it's followed through...
I agree with the issue (found out about the ggreeter stuff just before you sent the mail -- I'll raise it tonight during the meeting). Bugzilla bugs would work for me, or someone pinging every now and then.
But I understand that bugzilla might not work for everybody :/ I guess having someone who makes sure that stuff gets done would really help.
I noticed yesterday in the -project meeting that they were using bugzilla to track tasks, so that's probably the way to go. In the past, we tracked tasks in the wiki and then we went to RTM and eventually back to the wiki where things died after that. The problems were: - Wiki syntax was a chore for people to deal with - RTM was outside of our openSUSE ecosphere - We needed to remember to actually enter tasks. - Being a taskmaster wasn't exactly exciting for anyone to handle. There were several of us who tried to take up that responsibility. Tracking via bugzilla would be nice, easier interface than a wiki, and can be linked to on our wiki pages.
Vincent
-- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member
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