[opensuse-gnome] Empathy by default. Again :-)

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Vincent Untz

9 Mar 2010 9 Mar '10

15:56

Hey, So it's that time of the year again, where we discuss shipping empathy as default IM client: https://features.opensuse.org/308281 As far as I can tell, the last unresolved issues we have with it are: + the handling of certificates, especially for groupwise + proxies As a reminder, empathy offers a better GNOME integration, as long as several cool features (share your desktop!), and has an intuitive UI. IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it. As for proxies, I'll let Dominique comment there. My guess, though, is that most people don't have to use proxies, so are not affected. People using proxies will know that they have to use one, and can use pidgin instead. What do you think? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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Dominique Leuenberger

9 Mar 9 Mar

16:03

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On 3/9/2010 at 16:56, Vincent Untz wrote: IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

It'll be a shame if I have to step aside from our defined standard. But as long as we're running GWMSG I will need to stick to it. And as such I will most likely not be able to provide input if empathy works or not.

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As for proxies, I'll let Dominique comment there. My guess, though, is that most people don't have to use proxies, so are not affected. People using proxies will know that they have to use one, and can use pidgin instead.

Thanks for the honor. Certainly not every protocol is able to pass (easily) through a proxy. Especially things like IRC (I think that works with empathy too?) is very tricky and in most situations not handled by proxies (standard proxies.. socks will work but they are hard to find in any non-geek environment) But then: if you have to go through a proxy then you're most likely in a corp environment where anyhow they would not want you to use IRC. For the other protocols, I'm somewhat surprised that no work was done in empathy to get libproxy support in (isn't the connection done mostly using libsoup?). GNOME has generally a very good proxy support and it's a shame that this is missing. But blocking Empathy from being the default for this very reason is not needed I think. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

17:20

Le mardi 09 mars 2010, à 17:03 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger a écrit :

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For the other protocols, I'm somewhat surprised that no work was done in empathy to get libproxy support in (isn't the connection done mostly using libsoup?). GNOME has generally a very good proxy support and it's a shame that this is missing. But blocking Empathy from being the default for this very reason is not needed I think.

I discussed this at last GUADEC with some telepathy people, and if I recall correctly, the problem is the telepathy architecture: empathy does not handle the communication with the servers itself, and therefore all the proxy stuff should happen in the various telepathy backends. And there was something like "the backends might not have access to your gconf config" thing, but I forgot why exactly... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Scott Reeves

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On 3/9/2010 at 09:03 AM, "Dominique Leuenberger" wrote:

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On 3/9/2010 at 16:56, Vincent Untz wrote: IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

It'll be a shame if I have to step aside from our defined standard. But as long as we're running GWMSG I will need to stick to it. And as such I will most likely not be able to provide input if empathy works or not.

What is the current status of any upstream work to enhance certificate handling capabilities? I remember there were some bugs entered but I have not followed empathy development since I tried it around a year ago and had to drop it because of the lack of GWIM support. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

17:39

Le mardi 09 mars 2010, à 10:34 -0700, Scott Reeves a écrit :

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On 3/9/2010 at 09:03 AM, "Dominique Leuenberger" wrote:

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On 3/9/2010 at 16:56, Vincent Untz wrote: IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

It'll be a shame if I have to step aside from our defined standard. But as long as we're running GWMSG I will need to stick to it. And as such I will most likely not be able to provide input if empathy works or not.

What is the current status of any upstream work to enhance certificate handling capabilities? I remember there were some bugs entered but I have not followed empathy development since I tried it around a year ago and had to drop it because of the lack of GWIM support.

It seems that you can put a certificate file somewhere on your disk to make empathy happy. I didn't try it, though. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Magnus Boman

17 Mar 17 Mar

00:23

Scott, On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 10:34 -0700, Scott Reeves wrote:

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On 3/9/2010 at 09:03 AM, "Dominique Leuenberger" wrote:

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On 3/9/2010 at 16:56, Vincent Untz wrote: IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

It'll be a shame if I have to step aside from our defined standard. But as long as we're running GWMSG I will need to stick to it. And as such I will most likely not be able to provide input if empathy works or not.

What is the current status of any upstream work to enhance certificate handling capabilities? I remember there were some bugs entered but I have not followed empathy development since I tried it around a year ago and had to drop it because of the lack of GWIM support.

I had a look at this. The issue is that libpurple wants to show a dialog to accept/reject the certificate. This dialog can not be shown when empathy (telepathy-haze) hooks in the to the library. As a quick work around, I've suggested to add a new preference entry (verify-certificates) to libpurple and when set to FALSE/0, it will auto accept the certificate if the certificate "failure" is considered non fatal. A version of libpurple with patch included is available in home:MBoman:branches:GNOME:Apps if you want to test it. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

25 Mar 25 Mar

12:24

On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:23:41 Magnus Boman wrote:

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A version of libpurple with patch included is available in home:MBoman:branches:GNOME:Apps if you want to test it.

Unfortunately you did not publish the packages at all, so it's not easy to download them. Could you change that, please? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Andreas Jaeger

26 Mar 26 Mar

08:37

On Thursday 25 March 2010 13:24:19 Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:23:41 Magnus Boman wrote:

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A version of libpurple with patch included is available in home:MBoman:branches:GNOME:Apps if you want to test it.

Unfortunately you did not publish the packages at all, so it's not easy to download them. Could you change that, please?

Build the packages myself. * Groupwise works fine * Gtalk is fine as well * AIM does not connect - fails with networking error * ICQ does not connect, fails with networking error Both AIM and ICQ work with pidgin on the same machine. Any ideas how to debug AIM and ICQ? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Daniel Rahn

08:58

On Fri, Mar 26, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Both AIM and ICQ work with pidgin on the same machine. Any ideas how to debug AIM and ICQ?

What error message are you getting? Try unsetting 'Use clientLogin' for AIM and ICQ. -Daniel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

09:12

On Friday 26 March 2010 09:58:06 Daniel Rahn wrote:

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Both AIM and ICQ work with pidgin on the same machine. Any ideas how to debug AIM and ICQ?

What error message are you getting?

"Disconnected - Network Error"

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Try unsetting 'Use clientLogin' for AIM and ICQ.

That option is not available in empathy, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Dominique Leuenberger

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On 3/26/2010 at 9:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote: On Thursday 25 March 2010 13:24:19 Andreas Jaeger wrote: On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:23:41 Magnus Boman wrote: A version of libpurple with patch included is available in home:MBoman:branches:GNOME:Apps if you want to test it.

Unfortunately you did not publish the packages at all, so it's not easy to download them. Could you change that, please?

Build the packages myself. * Groupwise works fine

Does this really 'work fine' for you? for me. the status here is as follow: - connecting to GWIM is fine (yay... that's a first) - I can initiate a chat with somebody - I can chat for about 5 minutes - Empathy crashes -> And telepathy-haze / mission-control-5 remain 'somehwhat' running, giving me a notification of the last incoming message about every 10 seconds (stealing focus). Would be good to see if experiences for you are similar (or better would be good too) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

10:30

On Friday 26 March 2010 11:29:13 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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On 3/26/2010 at 9:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

On Thursday 25 March 2010 13:24:19 Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:23:41 Magnus Boman wrote:

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A version of libpurple with patch included is available in home:MBoman:branches:GNOME:Apps if you want to test it.

Unfortunately you did not publish the packages at all, so it's not easy to download them. Could you change that, please?

Build the packages myself. * Groupwise works fine

Does this really 'work fine' for you? for me. the status here is as follow: - connecting to GWIM is fine (yay... that's a first) - I can initiate a chat with somebody - I can chat for about 5 minutes

that's only what I had done when I wrote the comment.

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- Empathy crashes -> And telepathy-haze / mission-control-5 remain 'somehwhat' running, giving me a notification of the last incoming message about every 10 seconds (stealing focus).

Would be good to see if experiences for you are similar (or better would be good too)

Will figure out the next days and report back, Anreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Sankar P

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On 3/26/2010 at 03:59 PM, in message <4BAC9A89020000290009625B@mail2.tmf-group.com>, "Dominique Leuenberger" wrote: On 3/26/2010 at 9:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote: On Thursday 25 March 2010 13:24:19 Andreas Jaeger wrote: On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:23:41 Magnus Boman wrote:

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A version of libpurple with patch included is available in home:MBoman:branches:GNOME:Apps if you want to test it.

Unfortunately you did not publish the packages at all, so it's not easy to download them. Could you change that, please?

Build the packages myself. * Groupwise works fine

Does this really 'work fine' for you? for me. the status here is as follow: - connecting to GWIM is fine (yay... that's a first) - I can initiate a chat with somebody - I can chat for about 5 minutes - Empathy crashes -> And telepathy-haze / mission-control-5 remain 'somehwhat' running, giving me a notification of the last incoming message about every 10 seconds (stealing focus).

Would be good to see if experiences for you are similar (or better would be good too)

GWIM conferences (more than two people chat) failed for me when I last checked (11.2 + updates) (accepting an invitation didnt give any response) I will check with the latest and will let you know by the weekend. Sankar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

9 Mar 9 Mar

16:59

Vincent Untz ha scritto:

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Hey,

So it's that time of the year again, where we discuss shipping empathy as default IM client: https://features.opensuse.org/308281

As far as I can tell, the last unresolved issues we have with it are:

+ the handling of certificates, especially for groupwise + proxies

As a reminder, empathy offers a better GNOME integration, as long as several cool features (share your desktop!), and has an intuitive UI.

IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

As for proxies, I'll let Dominique comment there. My guess, though, is that most people don't have to use proxies, so are not affected. People using proxies will know that they have to use one, and can use pidgin instead.

What do you think?

Vincent

Hi Vincent! I know that what am starting to tell is firstly out-of-topic, then not application related (empathy, Skype, Kopete, Pidgin...), but moreover kernel/audio-platform related, anyway I woul like to point out the fact that 11.3 is still lacking driver support for USB Mics. (I mean the ones integrated into Web Cams, as the Philips SPC530NC). Perhaps in openSUSE the times are matures to overcome this kind of problems...Or not? Cheers, -- Marco Calistri http://mcalistri.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

17:21

Hi Marco, Le mardi 09 mars 2010, à 13:59 -0300, Marco Calistri a écrit :

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I know that what am starting to tell is firstly out-of-topic, then not application related (empathy, Skype, Kopete, Pidgin...), but moreover kernel/audio-platform related, anyway I woul like to point out the fact that 11.3 is still lacking driver support for USB Mics.

(I mean the ones integrated into Web Cams, as the Philips SPC530NC).

Isn't this a driver issue? It might make sense to contact the kernel hackers to see what is the status there... Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

18:04

Vincent Untz ha scritto:

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Hi Marco,

Le mardi 09 mars 2010, à 13:59 -0300, Marco Calistri a écrit :

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I know that what am starting to tell is firstly out-of-topic, then not application related (empathy, Skype, Kopete, Pidgin...), but moreover kernel/audio-platform related, anyway I woul like to point out the fact that 11.3 is still lacking driver support for USB Mics.

(I mean the ones integrated into Web Cams, as the Philips SPC530NC).

Isn't this a driver issue? It might make sense to contact the kernel hackers to see what is the status there...

Thanks,

Vincent

Hi Vincent, I googled a bit and found: http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Linux_UVC Where, on particular I get this: Starting at version 2.6.22, the Linux kernel includes a USB audio bug fix which triggers a (possibly identical to the above) bug in first and second generation Logitech webcams. Fortunately this one seems to have a workaround, although not a pretty one. The webcam audio interface must be initialised before the video interface. Linux will by default initialise the video interface first, so you need to remove the uvcvideo.ko module from the /lib/modules subdirectory where it gets loaded automatically, and load it manually after plugging the webcam. A more convenient workaround on openSUSE (and maybe other distros too) Just add the following line to your /etc/modprobe.conf.local : install uvcvideo /sbin/modprobe snd_usb_audio; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install uvcvideo * If you have to reset you cam for any reason, do: 1. unplug your cam 2. modprobe -r uvcvideo 3. modprobe -r snd_usb_audio 4. replug your cam o (not sure if step 1 and 4 are really necessary, or if 2 and 3 would be sufficient) So I am very curious to make a test later at home ;-) Marco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Magnus Boman

18:38

Hello, On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:56 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hey,

So it's that time of the year again, where we discuss shipping empathy as default IM client: https://features.opensuse.org/308281

As far as I can tell, the last unresolved issues we have with it are:

+ the handling of certificates, especially for groupwise

As some others pointed out, I will have to stick to pidgin until this is resolved. Last time I looked at the upstream bug, the suggestion was to copy the certificate to some directory. This did not work for me however.

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+ proxies

Most of our user base shouldn't be affected by this, and as mentioned below, people who know they need a proxy can easily switch to pidgin.

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As a reminder, empathy offers a better GNOME integration, as long as several cool features (share your desktop!), and has an intuitive UI.

Cool is good :-)

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IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

As for proxies, I'll let Dominique comment there. My guess, though, is that most people don't have to use proxies, so are not affected. People using proxies will know that they have to use one, and can use pidgin instead.

What do you think?

+1 for making it default. I'm prepared to use both pidgin (for GWIM) and empathy (for the greater good) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Magnus Boman

17 Mar 17 Mar

00:19

Hello, Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now. Cheers, Magnus On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:56 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hey,

So it's that time of the year again, where we discuss shipping empathy as default IM client: https://features.opensuse.org/308281

As far as I can tell, the last unresolved issues we have with it are:

+ the handling of certificates, especially for groupwise + proxies

As a reminder, empathy offers a better GNOME integration, as long as several cool features (share your desktop!), and has an intuitive UI.

IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

As for proxies, I'll let Dominique comment there. My guess, though, is that most people don't have to use proxies, so are not affected. People using proxies will know that they have to use one, and can use pidgin instead.

What do you think?

Vincent

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Sankar P

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On 3/17/2010 at 05:49 AM, in message <1268785184.13816.4.camel@linux-1jxd.site>, Magnus Boman wrote: Hello,

Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now.

It will be good to provide some migrate-pidgin-logs-to-empathy-format plugin/app along with it. I have years of chat log which I don't want to lose. I binged a bit and found so many suggestions (from ubuntu forums, some upstream bugs etc.) I however couldn't try out any solution to figure out what is the best :( Sankar

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Cheers, Magnus

On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:56 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Hey,

So it's that time of the year again, where we discuss shipping empathy as default IM client: https://features.opensuse.org/308281

As far as I can tell, the last unresolved issues we have with it are:

+ the handling of certificates, especially for groupwise + proxies

As a reminder, empathy offers a better GNOME integration, as long as several cool features (share your desktop!), and has an intuitive UI.

IMHO, if the certificate issue is really just for groupwise, we should ignore it.

As for proxies, I'll let Dominique comment there. My guess, though, is that most people don't have to use proxies, so are not affected. People using proxies will know that they have to use one, and can use pidgin instead.

What do you think?

Vincent

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Nikanth Karthikesan

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On 3/17/2010 at 10:37 AM, "Sankar P" wrote: On 3/17/2010 at 05:49 AM, in message <1268785184.13816.4.camel@linux-1jxd.site>, Magnus Boman wrote: Hello,

Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now.

It will be good to provide some migrate-pidgin-logs-to-empathy-format plugin/app along with it. I have years of chat log which I don't want to lose. I binged a bit and found so many suggestions (from ubuntu forums, some upstream bugs etc.) I however couldn't try out any solution to figure out what is the best :(

Why do you want to convert pidgin logs to empathy format? I guess they are text files and vi should be enough? Or use pidgin to view only those archived logs and move to empathy. Thanks Nikanth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Stephen Shaw

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Why do you want to convert pidgin logs to empathy format? I guess they are text files and vi should be enough? Or use pidgin to view only those archived logs and move to empathy.

Thanks Nikanth

That's like really terrible terrible user experience suggestion. Hey user, parse those log files yourself... I thought we wanted to provide a good user experience in general, but also for new users. Cheers, Stephen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Sankar P

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On 3/17/2010 at 10:52 AM, in message <4BA066F8.DA3 : 197 : 16378>, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote:

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On 3/17/2010 at 10:37 AM, "Sankar P" wrote: On 3/17/2010 at 05:49 AM, in message <1268785184.13816.4.camel@linux-1jxd.site>, Magnus Boman wrote: Hello,

Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now.

It will be good to provide some migrate-pidgin-logs-to-empathy-format plugin/app along with it. I have years of chat log which I don't want to lose. I binged

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Why do you want to convert pidgin logs to empathy format? I guess they are text files and vi should be enough? Or use pidgin to view only those archived logs and move to empathy.

Nope. The logs are in html format. Even otherwise, I would prefer to open only one application than searching in multiple apps. Also, in future, we may drop pidgin completely (from live-cd, default installation pattern, etc.) once empathy becomes popular and liked by everyone. Sankar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

06:44

Le mardi 16 mars 2010, à 23:07 -0600, Sankar P a écrit :

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On 3/17/2010 at 05:49 AM, in message <1268785184.13816.4.camel@linux-1jxd.site>, Magnus Boman wrote: Hello,

Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now.

It will be good to provide some migrate-pidgin-logs-to-empathy-format plugin/app along with it. I have years of chat log which I don't want to lose. I binged a bit and found so many suggestions (from ubuntu forums, some upstream bugs etc.) I however couldn't try out any solution to figure out what is the best :(

The logger part of empathy will read pidgin logs in the future (I don't think it's doing it right now). So there would be no need for migration. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

18 Mar 18 Mar

14:01

On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:19:44 Magnus Boman wrote:

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Hello,

Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now.

For that you need to change the GNOME patterns as well so that empathy instead of pidgin gets installed - best thing might be to file a bug against patterns and assign it to coolo. Tell him which packages to add/remove from the patterns and which packages to add/remove from the media, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Vincent Untz

7 Apr 7 Apr

21:16

Le jeudi 18 mars 2010, à 15:01 +0100, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :

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On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:19:44 Magnus Boman wrote:

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Hello,

Since there were no objections to this, lets make Empathy default now.

For that you need to change the GNOME patterns as well so that empathy instead of pidgin gets installed - best thing might be to file a bug against patterns and assign it to coolo. Tell him which packages to add/remove from the patterns and which packages to add/remove from the media,

I was waiting to see if there was any good reason to not do it, and it seems okay. So this is now filed in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=594593 Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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Stephen Shaw
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