Le jeudi 19 mars 2015 à 22:52 +0100, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger a écrit :

Gerald,

On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 22:30 +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:

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I find that I am running a couple of services that I don't feel I should since I am not Evolution for e-mail nor anything else:

/usr/lib/evolution-data-server/evolution-source-registry /usr/lib/evolution/3.12/evolution-alarm-notify /usr/lib/evolution-data-server/evolution-calendar-factory

Alas, half of Gnome seems to depend on it:

The following 4 applications are going to be REMOVED: Contacts Evolution Notes "Tweak Tool"

The following 37 packages are going to be REMOVED: bijiben evolution evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-lang gdm gdm-branding-openSUSE gnome-contacts gnome-session gnome-session-default-session gnome-shell gnome-shell-browser-plugin gnome-shell-extensions-common gnome-shell-extensions-common-lang gnome-shell-search-provider-bijiben gnome-shell-search-provider-contacts gnome-shell-search-provider-documents gnome-shell-search-provider-nautilus gnome-tweak-tool libebackend-1_2-7 libebook-1_2-14 libebook-contacts-1_2-0 libecal-1_2-16 libedata-book-1_2-20 libedata-cal-1_2-23 libedataserver-1_2-18 libfolks-eds25 libfolks-telepathy25 libfolks-tracker25 libfolks25 patterns-openSUSE-gnome patterns-openSUSE-gnome_basis patterns-openSUSE-gnome_imaging patterns-openSUSE-gnome_imaging_opt patterns-openSUSE-gnome_laptop patterns-openSUSE-gnome_office patterns-openSUSE-gnome_office_opt patterns-openSUSE-gnome_utilities

The following 8 patterns are going to be REMOVED: gnome gnome_basis gnome_imaging gnome_imaging_opt gnome_laptop gnome_office gnome_office_opt gnome_utilities

37 packages to remove. After the operation, 36,9 MiB will be freed.

Most of those things do not depend on evolution-data-server directly, but something else that is going to be removed.

in fact, the critical part in there is gnome-shell, which relies on e-d-s services for the calendaring applet in the top bar.

And once gnome-shell is marked for removal by zypper, there is not much gnome left (gnome-tweak-tool depends on gnome-shell; gnome-imaging pattern depends on the regular gnome pattern, which of course, requires gnome-shell).

I don't think we'd be doing ourselves a big favor to try to work around a non-existing service; I've seen way too many crashes for e-d-s services not being reachable. that the tradeoff to have them there is just not expensive enough to even work on incoming bugs.

For the record, we moved this dependency in a subpackage (gnome-shell-calendar) on SLE12 (since we didn't want to have e-d-s on SLES12) but I'd tend to agree with Dominique, it might not be a good idea to not enforce it on openSUSE (even more with the new notification UI in 3.16, I don't know how it would interact with no e-d-s running, but maybe I'm just paranoid :) -- Frederic Crozat Project Manager Enterprise Desktop SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org

Le vendredi 20 mars 2015 à 15:16 +0100, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :

On Fri 2015-03-20, Frederic Crozat wrote:

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For the record, we moved this dependency in a subpackage (gnome-shell-calendar) on SLE12 (since we didn't want to have e-d-s on SLES12) but I'd tend to agree with Dominique, it might not be a good idea to not enforce it on openSUSE (even more with the new notification UI in 3.16, I don't know how it would interact with no e-d-s running, but maybe I'm just paranoid :)

Are you saying GNOME on openSUSE is more conservative than on SUSE Linux Enterprise? ;-)

One solution could be for openSUSE GNOME to use the same split as in SLE GNOME (gnome-shell-calendar) and Recommends the subpackage.. But it could cause some bug reports when some people don't have the subpackage installed. I'll leave the decision to Dominique :) -- Frederic Crozat Project Manager Enterprise Desktop SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org