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Basil Chupin

7 Apr 2011 7 Apr '11

07:12

I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, will not be adopting). I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.) I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered: (1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop? (2) I use Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox). While there is the normal icon showing for Firefox there is no such icon for Thunderbird - all one is given is a blank 'page' as the icon. How does one get the appropriate icon for Thunderbird - which, by default in other distros, is automatically shown when one installs Thunderbird? (BTW, searching for, and finally finding such an icon in icons/hicolor/apps/48x48/ and selecting it does zilch, nothing, zero.) (3) I wanted to change the background for the desktop. I went to download a couple I liked from the website - but the damn images were blurred and unrecognisable when installed as the desktop background! What the....? How does one get a new backgrounds to be usable? (4) I have always set things up so that I have 6 desktops/workspaces - and I know which one I use for which application. For example, space #1 for Thunderbird, space #2 for Firefox, et al. Just before posting this message I had TB running in its usual workspace #1. There was a message in TB which had an URL link (in this mail list as a matter of fact mentioning the availability of gnome #3), clicked on the link and waited for FF to open -- but nothing happened. As usual I went to space #2 to look at FF - but there was nothing there! I won't go thru all the "variations on a theme" about this and what I tried but what I can state is that I had just prior to all this decided to try out the Desktop Effects (Control Center/Desktop Effects). With the Effects activated and starting Firefox in space #2 OVERWROTE Thunderbird which was started in space #1. Whatever you seem to start in a different workspace ends up in space #1. Deselecting Desktop Effects stops this nonsense. But this of course is not normal and the question therefore is: what haven't I installed/not configured so as to cause this ridiculous behaviour? (5) Is there an option, which I am not aware of, in openSUSE's update manager/software manager which will automatically select the best server for any upgrades/updates from one of my local mirrors? Downloading files from the (?)main server is a PITA -- the transfer rate is less than dial-up speed (although files from Packman came down at a most reasonable speed)? Thank you for attention. BC -- "I believe what I am programmed to believe." A robot in Futuruma -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar

7 Apr 7 Apr

07:44

Basil, Quoting Basil Chupin :

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered:

(1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop?

IIUC, you are looking for gnome3, right? sorry to break the news: There are no panels. I suggest you give the existing live images a try to see how much you like it. As for gnome2, as you currently run and the question on how to remove TRASH and HOME, this should be possible in gconf-editor in the location: /apps/nautilus/desktop There are two booleans: home-icon_visible and trash_icon_visible. Switch them to FALSE (remove the tick) and the icons will disappear.

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(2) I use Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox). While there is the normal icon showing for Firefox there is no such icon for Thunderbird - all one is given is a blank 'page' as the icon. How does one get the appropriate icon for Thunderbird - which, by default in other distros, is automatically shown when one installs Thunderbird? (BTW, searching for, and finally finding such an icon in icons/hicolor/apps/48x48/ and selecting it does zilch, nothing, zero.)

That sounds like the icon cache did not get rebuilt. Try to start (as root) /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache --quiet --force "/usr/share/icon/hicolor"

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(3) I wanted to change the background for the desktop. I went to download a couple I liked from the website - but the damn images were blurred and unrecognisable when installed as the desktop background! What the....? How does one get a new backgrounds to be usable?

What's the size of the file you downloaded (pixel dimensions)? Are you stretching the file? That typically results in very bad quality. As for the question on "how": get a file with a resolution high enough for your screen. Or don't stretch it. To not stretch it, go to appearance, background and give "Center" as the 'style' (will use the original size of the picture)

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(5) Is there an option, which I am not aware of, in openSUSE's update manager/software manager which will automatically select the best server for any upgrades/updates from one of my local mirrors? Downloading files from the (?)main server is a PITA -- the transfer rate is less than dial-up speed (although files from Packman came down at a most reasonable speed)?

Are you in the US? I heard several complaints that the Mirrors over there seem to be rather bad. There was a lengthy discussion about this and possible solutions not too long ago (search the archives for mirrorbrain) HTH, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Sankar P

08:24

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(1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop?

IIUC, you are looking for gnome3, right? sorry to break the news: There are no panels. I suggest you give the existing live images a try to see how much you like it.

As for gnome2, as you currently run and the question on how to remove TRASH and HOME, this should be possible in gconf-editor in the location: /apps/nautilus/desktop There are two booleans: home-icon_visible and trash_icon_visible. Switch them to FALSE (remove the tick) and the icons will disappear.

In GNOME 3, the icons will not show by default. In GNOME 2, playing with gconf is one way and another shortcut is: http://psankar.blogspot.com/2011/01/showhide-files-and-icons-in-gnome.html -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

12:28

On 07/04/2011 18:24, Sankar P wrote:

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(1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop? IIUC, you are looking for gnome3, right? sorry to break the news: There are no panels. I suggest you give the existing live images a try to see how much you like it.

As for gnome2, as you currently run and the question on how to remove TRASH and HOME, this should be possible in gconf-editor in the location: /apps/nautilus/desktop There are two booleans: home-icon_visible and trash_icon_visible. Switch them to FALSE (remove the tick) and the icons will disappear.

In GNOME 3, the icons will not show by default.

"Not show by default" meaning that there is a way to make them operative?

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In GNOME 2, playing with gconf is one way and another shortcut is:

http://psankar.blogspot.com/2011/01/showhide-files-and-icons-in-gnome.html

Thanks for this - I'll go and look at this blog. One of the most annoying "bugs" with gnome (all distros it would appear) is that the date format displayed in the clock applet is always in the american format, month/date/year, and not what is used by the majority of the rest of the world: day/month/year; and the date format is supposed to be displayed according to your locale - but gnome simply refuses to do this and one then has to go and fiddle in the gconf-editor to reset the clock applet :-( . BC -- "I believe what I am programmed to believe." A robot in Futuruma -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

12:18

On 07/04/2011 17:44, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Basil,

Quoting Basil Chupin :

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered:

(1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop?

IIUC, you are looking for gnome3, right? sorry to break the news: There are no panels.

Not what I wanted to hear :-( .

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I suggest you give the existing live images a try to see how much you like it.

From what I just looked at, at least it looks like it is possible to have a clean desktop without having icons cluttering it. Yes, no? :-)

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As for gnome2, as you currently run and the question on how to remove TRASH and HOME, this should be possible in gconf-editor in the location: /apps/nautilus/desktop There are two booleans: home-icon_visible and trash_icon_visible. Switch them to FALSE (remove the tick) and the icons will disappear.

OK, I'll check this out.

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(2) I use Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox). While there is the normal icon showing for Firefox there is no such icon for Thunderbird - all one is given is a blank 'page' as the icon. How does one get the appropriate icon for Thunderbird - which, by default in other distros, is automatically shown when one installs Thunderbird? (BTW, searching for, and finally finding such an icon in icons/hicolor/apps/48x48/ and selecting it does zilch, nothing, zero.)

That sounds like the icon cache did not get rebuilt. Try to start (as root) /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache --quiet --force "/usr/share/icon/hicolor"

Will do.

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(3) I wanted to change the background for the desktop. I went to download a couple I liked from the website - but the damn images were blurred and unrecognisable when installed as the desktop background! What the....? How does one get a new backgrounds to be usable?

What's the size of the file you downloaded (pixel dimensions)?

My monitor is 1920x1080 and I downloaded at least one 1920x1200 image. Stretched? Yes, always have had this set and never a hassle with other distros. Also, I did check that the correct nVidia driver was installed (ie, not using the nouveau driver).

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Are you stretching the file? That typically results in very bad quality. As for the question on "how": get a file with a resolution high enough for your screen. Or don't stretch it. To not stretch it, go to appearance, background and give "Center" as the 'style' (will use the original size of the picture)

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(5) Is there an option, which I am not aware of, in openSUSE's update manager/software manager which will automatically select the best server for any upgrades/updates from one of my local mirrors? Downloading files from the (?)main server is a PITA -- the transfer rate is less than dial-up speed (although files from Packman came down at a most reasonable speed)?

Are you in the US?

No I am not "there" - I am in Australia.

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I heard several complaints that the Mirrors over there seem to be rather bad. There was a lengthy discussion about this and possible solutions not too long ago (search the archives for mirrorbrain)

It would be very nice if one could, as in something like Ubuntu, allow the repo handler go and select the most efficient local mirror for you (or you can pick one yourself if you wanted). Would even be nicer if this occurred during the installation process whereby some local mirror would be used and not the main server from which downloads are at less than dial-up speed.

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HTH,

Yes, thanks, it has been of help. BC -- "I believe what I am programmed to believe." A robot in Futuruma -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar

12:32

Quoting Basil Chupin :

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I suggest you give the existing live images a try to see how much you like it.

From what I just looked at, at least it looks like it is possible to have a clean desktop without having icons cluttering it. Yes, no? :-)

Yes. It is actually more complicated to get stuff on the desktop (not even sure this is foreseen in GNOME 3 final. The desktop as is no longer is)

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There are two booleans: home-icon_visible and trash_icon_visible. Switch them to FALSE (remove the tick) and the icons will disappear.

OK, I'll check this out. Those switches are for gnome 2... so we're still discussing different versions of gnome

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Are you in the US?

No I am not "there" - I am in Australia. Ok.. not sure of the quality of mirrors in .au

Seems there is only one mirror for 11.4 update for example there: http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/opensuse/update/11.4/ (quick look.. might have missed something). Check for example http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/repodata/repomd.xml.mirrorlist This will give information on how mirrorbrain detected your situation and what it suggests for your location. If different servers would perform better, it would certainly be worthy to note this in a bugzilla ticket

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It would be very nice if one could, as in something like Ubuntu, allow the repo handler go and select the most efficient local mirror for you (or you can pick one yourself if you wanted). Would even be nicer if this occurred during the installation process whereby some local mirror would be used and not the main server from which downloads are at less than dial-up speed.

That's what mirrorbrain is doing: it favors the most local servers for you. All links pointing to download.opensuse.org are being appropriately redirected. Granted: as noted above: mirrorbrain might have a wrong information about availability of some specific sites and speeds... bugs help to get them sorted. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Atri Bhattacharya

8 Apr 8 Apr

06:16

Hi! On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 17:12 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered:

(1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop?

Though there is no "dedicated GUI" way to do this, it can still be done by opening the application "gconf-editor" and then turning some check-boxes off in the apps/nautilus/desktop directory. Expand "apps", then nautilus, and finally select "desktop" on the left-hand pane. On the right-hand pane you should see the options, such as, "home_icon_visible". Tick them off.

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(2) I use Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox). While there is the normal icon showing for Firefox there is no such icon for Thunderbird - all one is given is a blank 'page' as the icon. How does one get the appropriate icon for Thunderbird - which, by default in other distros, is automatically shown when one installs Thunderbird? (BTW, searching for, and finally finding such an icon in icons/hicolor/apps/48x48/ and selecting it does zilch, nothing, zero.)

I believe this is an outcome of bug 680533 which we have just submitted a fix for. You can execute the following command from the terminal to set things right as far as missing icons for applications go #sudo gtk-update-icon-cache "/usr/share/icons/hicolor" and that should solve matters.

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(3) I wanted to change the background for the desktop. I went to download a couple I liked from the website - but the damn images were blurred and unrecognisable when installed as the desktop background! What the....? How does one get a new backgrounds to be usable?

I just did that, and it works for me. The workflow from the click on the "Get more backgrounds online" is the following:- I. Choose the background you like, and the resolution for that from the drop-down box and hit on the "go" button. II. You should a large wallpaper III. Right click on the wallpaper and select "Set as background" Doing this saves pretty wallpapers as my desktop background in the full glory of hi-res.

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(4) I have always set things up so that I have 6 desktops/workspaces - and I know which one I use for which application. For example, space #1 for Thunderbird, space #2 for Firefox, et al. Just before posting this message I had TB running in its usual workspace #1. There was a message in TB which had an URL link (in this mail list as a matter of fact mentioning the availability of gnome #3), clicked on the link and waited for FF to open -- but nothing happened. As usual I went to space #2 to look at FF - but there was nothing there!

I won't go thru all the "variations on a theme" about this and what I tried but what I can state is that I had just prior to all this decided to try out the Desktop Effects (Control Center/Desktop Effects).

With the Effects activated and starting Firefox in space #2 OVERWROTE Thunderbird which was started in space #1. Whatever you seem to start in a different workspace ends up in space #1.

Deselecting Desktop Effects stops this nonsense.

But this of course is not normal and the question therefore is: what haven't I installed/not configured so as to cause this ridiculous behaviour?

This could be a bug with compiz ("desktop-effects"), please look at bugzilla.novell.com and see if a report already exists regarding this or file a new one if you can reproduce this consistently.

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(5) Is there an option, which I am not aware of, in openSUSE's update manager/software manager which will automatically select the best server for any upgrades/updates from one of my local mirrors? Downloading files from the (?)main server is a PITA -- the transfer rate is less than dial-up speed (although files from Packman came down at a most reasonable speed)?

openSUSE's Mirror Brain, which redirects download requests to a server best-suited to the requesting client automatically should do this. There is no option turned off by default that should prevent this from happening if you are using the default repo url's (ie. http://download.opensuse.org/*) and not mirrors directly. So it might be that the server you are being redirected to is having problems with speed etc. Hope that helps. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Nelson Marques

12:49

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered

(1) I like to have a totally clean workspace/desktop and therefore put all the icons for the apps. I use on the top/bottom panels. In 11.4 I have done this for all the apps, I normally run except that the icons for TRASH and the HOME directory which cannot be deleted/moved to trash - the option is greyed out on the drop down menu. How does one get rid of these icons so as to have a totally clean workspace/desktop?

Disabled in gconf-editor... Apps // Nautilus // Desktop.

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(2) I use Mozilla Thunderbird (and Firefox). While there is the normal icon showing for Firefox there is no such icon for Thunderbird - all one is given is a blank 'page' as the icon. How does one get the appropriate icon for Thunderbird - which, by default in other distros, is automatically shown when one installs Thunderbird? (BTW, searching for, and finally finding such an icon in icons/hicolor/apps/48x48/ and selecting it does zilch, nothing, zero.)

I would probably recommend an alternative icon set. Faenza or Humanity would leave at home since you are used to ubuntu... https://launchpad.net/humanity http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228

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(3) I wanted to change the background for the desktop. I went to download a couple I liked from the website - but the damn images were blurred and unrecognisable when installed as the desktop background! What the....? How does one get a new backgrounds to be usable?

Not sure, all seem to work fine for me, though I only download high res wallpapers.

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(4) I have always set things up so that I have 6 desktops/workspaces - and I know which one I use for which application. For example, space #1 for Thunderbird, space #2 for Firefox, et al. Just before posting this message I had TB running in its usual workspace #1. There was a message in TB which had an URL link (in this mail list as a matter of fact mentioning the availability of gnome #3), clicked on the link and waited for FF to open -- but nothing happened. As usual I went to space #2 to look at FF - but there was nothing there!

I won't go thru all the "variations on a theme" about this and what I tried but what I can state is that I had just prior to all this decided to try out the Desktop Effects (Control Center/Desktop Effects).

That's compiz... I don't really like it (personal taste), I launch gconf-editor and activate metacity with composite mode.

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With the Effects activated and starting Firefox in space #2 OVERWROTE Thunderbird which was started in space #1. Whatever you seem to start in a different workspace ends up in space #1.

Compiz doesn't really use the metacity desktops... so probably you need to reconfigure compiz with the same number of deskops.

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Deselecting Desktop Effects stops this nonsense.

compiz :)

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But this of course is not normal and the question therefore is: what haven't I installed/not configured so as to cause this ridiculous behaviour?

(5) Is there an option, which I am not aware of, in openSUSE's update manager/software manager which will automatically select the best server for any upgrades/updates from one of my local mirrors? Downloading files from the (?)main server is a PITA -- the transfer rate is less than dial-up speed (although files from Packman came down at a most reasonable speed)?

It should do it automatically, though I run a customized config for a local mirror I have access (not official) which is way faster than any other from the official repo.

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Thank you for attention.

BC

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Basil Chupin

9 Apr 9 Apr

05:25

On 08/04/11 22:49, Nelson Marques wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, Â will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered

[pruned] I'll take the opportunity to thank everyone - Nelson, Dominique, Atri - in this one message so as not to repeat myself :-) . Following the kind instructions given, I have 'solved' all 5 niggly bits: I have a clean workspace/desktop; the icon cache has been rebuilt; the background wallpaper is in perfect focus (I had downloaded the wrong pix-es: I accidentally grabbed the thumbnails on the site rather than the actual pix-es sized for my monitor); all running apps showing up on the one and same workspace was solved by disengaging the Desktop Effects (so the compiz bug is still there I guess - and see also a post from me to follow this one dealing with Gnome #3); and the bit about the most efficient mirrors for upgrade downloads is still open: earlier today I saw this 'mirrorbrain' at work and it picked some unknown site somewhere in the world, I not know where, as the most effiicient when I have one sitting only 'just around the corner' from me which I have been using for quite some time. So, the bottom line is: thank you all. (But now to have a rant about Gnome #3........ :'( .) BC -- "I believe what I am programmed to believe." A robot in Futuruma -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

Jim Sublette

16:20

On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 15:25 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 08/04/11 22:49, Nelson Marques wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, Â will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered

[pruned]

I'll take the opportunity to thank everyone - Nelson, Dominique, Atri - in this one message so as not to repeat myself :-) .

Following the kind instructions given, I have 'solved' all 5 niggly bits: I have a clean workspace/desktop; the icon cache has been rebuilt; the background wallpaper is in perfect focus (I had downloaded the wrong pix-es: I accidentally grabbed the thumbnails on the site rather than the actual pix-es sized for my monitor); all running apps showing up on the one and same workspace was solved by disengaging the Desktop Effects (so the compiz bug is still there I guess - and see also a post from me to follow this one dealing with Gnome #3); and the bit about the most efficient mirrors for upgrade downloads is still open: earlier today I saw this 'mirrorbrain' at work and it picked some unknown site somewhere in the world, I not know where, as the most effiicient when I have one sitting only 'just around the corner' from me which I have been using for quite some time.

So, the bottom line is: thank you all.

(But now to have a rant about Gnome #3........ :'( .)

BC

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Basil Chupin

13 Apr 13 Apr

07:40

On 10/04/2011 02:20, Jim Sublette wrote:

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On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 15:25 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 08/04/11 22:49, Nelson Marques wrote:

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I just installed 11.4 with the gnome DE on a test-bed to see what it is like in anticipation of using gnome 3 (which my current distro, Ubuntu, Ã‚ will not be adopting).

I installed 11.4 from the DVD, and it is the 32-bit version. (The installation is a stock-standard installation with all the latest upgrades as of a few hours ago.)

I have 5 questions which I would be pleased to have answered

[pruned]

I'll take the opportunity to thank everyone - Nelson, Dominique, Atri - in this one message so as not to repeat myself :-) .

Following the kind instructions given, I have 'solved' all 5 niggly bits: I have a clean workspace/desktop; the icon cache has been rebuilt; the background wallpaper is in perfect focus (I had downloaded the wrong pix-es: I accidentally grabbed the thumbnails on the site rather than the actual pix-es sized for my monitor); all running apps showing up on the one and same workspace was solved by disengaging the Desktop Effects (so the compiz bug is still there I guess - and see also a post from me to follow this one dealing with Gnome #3); and the bit about the most efficient mirrors for upgrade downloads is still open: earlier today I saw this 'mirrorbrain' at work and it picked some unknown site somewhere in the world, I not know where, as the most effiicient when I have one sitting only 'just around the corner' from me which I have been using for quite some time.

So, the bottom line is: thank you all.

(But now to have a rant about Gnome #3........ :'( .)

BC

--

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The compiz plugin place will allow you to specify an application always starting on a specific desktop (viewport).

Thanks for your response, but, firstly, what "compiz plugin' are you talking about, ie where does it come from?; and, secondly, if I don't want to use compiz (I have it turned off) then what's the solution? BC -- Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches complete understanding of the minute details." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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