[opensuse-gnome] Removing a few application launchers
Hi, Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing. Here are a few proposals: + remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one... + remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu... + remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet. + we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess. + hide epiphany bookmarks? (I know, it's not installed by default :-)) + I think Magnus also noted we had 3 launchers for search (beagle, gnome-search-tool and nautilus search). We should probably at least hide gnome-search-tool or nautilus search. (I see I have ghex installed -- is this installed by default??? Doesn't make sense to me) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 01:15 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi,
Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing.
Here are a few proposals:
+ remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one...
+ remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu...
+ remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet.
+ we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess.
+ hide epiphany bookmarks? (I know, it's not installed by default :-))
+ I think Magnus also noted we had 3 launchers for search (beagle, gnome-search-tool and nautilus search). We should probably at least hide gnome-search-tool or nautilus search.
(I see I have ghex installed -- is this installed by default??? Doesn't make sense to me)
Agreed, all of them are useless or provide some confusion to the user imo. I Wonder if CD/DVD Creator could be as well since it can be launched in nautilus.
GO GO GO! Luis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 01:15 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
+ remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one...
Sounds good. I think perhaps we should just split the difference and keep both Mail in Internet and Main & Calendar in Office.
+ remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu...
I didn't know what eog was until I manually started it, so I'd say a launcher isn't needed ;-)
+ remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet.
Eliminating all the PulseAudio launchers and volume control sounds good to me, no need to be cluttering up the menus if there's another, easier way to access them (unless someone else can think of a reason this is a necessity).
+ we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess.
This has been a problem since openSUSE 10.2, so fixing this would be
awesome :-).
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On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 01:15 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing.
Here are a few proposals:
+ remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list
We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one...
I'd prefer to have exactly one icon for mail in "Internet"
+ remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu...
+1
+ remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet.
"Recording Volume Monitor" and "Volume Monitor" could also go. Agree that we should get rid of the standard volume monitor (listed in both Multimedia and System). For PA, it'd make sense to keep "PA Manager" and "PA Preferences". PA Preferences is listed in both "Multimedia" and "System" so be nice to have it listed only once (and perhaps should move to the control center).
+ we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess.
We should :-) Almost all apps in g-c-c is also listed in the normal menu.
+ hide epiphany bookmarks? (I know, it's not installed by default :-))
+ I think Magnus also noted we had 3 launchers for search (beagle, gnome-search-tool and nautilus search). We should probably at least hide gnome-search-tool or nautilus search.
Sounds good.
(I see I have ghex installed -- is this installed by default??? Doesn't make sense to me)
I have it as well but not sure if I installed it manually or not. + Network Tools is listed in "Internet", "System" and "Utilities". Should only be listed once but not sure in what category. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 01:15 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
+ remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one... Save to do IMHO, even RedHat (who once pushed for separate launchers) removed the extra launchers in Fedora 8 or 9 already.
+ remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu... +1
+ remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. +1 The preferences should go to the CC. Longer term I think we need a new sound configuration/preferences app.
I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet. I have never used the launcher, so I don't really see any harm this would cause, so +1 here as well.
+ we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess. Yes please :)
+ hide epiphany bookmarks? (I know, it's not installed by default :-)) +1
+ I think Magnus also noted we had 3 launchers for search (beagle, gnome-search-tool and nautilus search). We should probably at least hide gnome-search-tool or nautilus search. I would hide both. the gnome-search-tool is not really useful anyway and the nautilus search feature can be accessed from nautilus itself.
(I see I have ghex installed -- is this installed by default??? Doesn't make sense to me) I don't see it here on my beta3 installation but I wondered about this "sK1" app.
The "System" category also shows launchers for "Logout" and "Lock screen". Those should be hidden, too. Cheers, -Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
ti., 04.11.2008 kl. 01.15 +0100, skrev Vincent Untz:
Hi,
Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing.
Here are a few proposals:
+ remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet.
Vincent
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Please do NOT remove the launcher for volume control! I and several more need it to fix the Audigy Analog/Digital Output jack, since PA always put this the wrong way. Alsa pre pulseaudio always got this one right. AKA I have no sound out of box. And there is NO WAY of setting this in PA, only or volume manager or in alsa conf in cmdline. I'll give PA cudos for making it more easy to set up surround after Rodrigos (I think it was him) patch for it. + there is a lot of users that rip PA out of their systems and they will then need this one. Bjørn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le mardi 04 novembre 2008, à 18:01 +0100, Bjørn Lie a écrit :
I and several more need it to fix the Audigy Analog/Digital Output jack, since PA always put this the wrong way. Alsa pre pulseaudio always got this one right. AKA I have no sound out of box. And there is NO WAY of setting this in PA, only or volume manager or in alsa conf in cmdline.
Did you file a bug against PA? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
ti., 04.11.2008 kl. 18.07 +0100, skrev Vincent Untz:
Le mardi 04 novembre 2008, à 18:01 +0100, Bjørn Lie a écrit :
I and several more need it to fix the Audigy Analog/Digital Output jack, since PA always put this the wrong way. Alsa pre pulseaudio always got this one right. AKA I have no sound out of box. And there is NO WAY of setting this in PA, only or volume manager or in alsa conf in cmdline.
Did you file a bug against PA?
Vincent
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Found this one. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=396204 I'll reinstall beta 4, but unless I remember wrong, I had to make this change there to. ------------- But the argument for keeping it for the "get rid of pa people" is still valid :=) Bjørn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 01:15 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing.
I just installed beta4 and found a few more launchers which could/should be removed: - xterm: we already have gnome-terminal by default. Seems like xterm is pulled in as a dependency of some other package... perhaps disable it for gnome (NotShowIn=gnome or what the key is called?) - Chainsaw & LogFactor5: some logging (?) tools, no idea why they are even installed by default. First time I see them. - "Service pack creator". Looks like a PackageKit app. Not useful for most users I think. Perhaps split this out from the other PackageKit apps and not install it by default? Cheers, -Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
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