[opensuse-gnome] What's the status of upgrading to GNOME-3.20?
Hi folks! I'm here to learn the status of the plan to upgrade GNOME. Before that, I'd like to share my status and current work. I'm trying to fix bnc#882801, and related patches associated with our plan to upgrade NM, in case we did redundant work nonconforming with upstream. So I have to learn the status of GNOME upgrading. At present, what I concern is the upgrade of NetworkManager-1.0.10 which is the officially recommended for product usage, obviously it requires higher GNOME than our current 3.10. According to LFS(Linux From Scratch), I think higher than GNOME-3.18 is enough. Moreover, the fate#320455 requires a new feature "captive portal handling" introduced since GNOME-3.14. And here're my questions: 1. What's the expected date to upgrade to GNOME-3.20? 2. Do we confirm to take NM-1.0.10, or maybe higher, say, NM-1.2? The later is unstable yet, but if our whole upgrade work lasts more than 6 months, maybe NM-1.2 will be stable at that time. I'm not too eager to pursue the newest package, but it saves our work if I managed to commit some patches to the upstream. I would like to help if any related. Thanks! -- In the beginning was the lambda. God saw it, realized he didn't need anything else, and stopped there. —— 《FP Bible》 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Roy, Let me try to get some answers for you together... On Tue, 2016-03-01 at 19:08 +0800, Roy Mu wrote:
Hi folks! I'm here to learn the status of the plan to upgrade GNOME.
You found one of the right spots! The other one is the irc channel #opensuse-gnome on freenode.
Before that, I'd like to share my status and current work.
I'm trying to fix bnc#882801, and related patches associated with our plan to upgrade NM, in case we did redundant work nonconforming with upstream. So I have to learn the status of GNOME upgrading.
At present, what I concern is the upgrade of NetworkManager-1.0.10 which is the officially recommended for product usage, obviously it requires higher GNOME than our current 3.10. According to LFS(Linux From Scratch), I think higher than GNOME-3.18 is enough.
openSUSE Tumbleweed already contains NetworkManager 1.0.10 - So this upgrade should be able to make it into your code base as well.. I also already have a branch for NM 1.2 ready (currently 1.1.90), but that is incomplete, mainly due to missing patch rebases. If anybody wants to have a look at this, it's on OBS in home:dimstar:NM_1.2
Moreover, the fate#320455 requires a new feature "captive portal handling" introduced since GNOME-3.14.
We walk in the same direction it seems: https://progress.opensuse.org/i ssues/9450 for openSUSE, this is almost ready. For SLE, you might want to provide a different server (or not).
And here're my questions:
1. What's the expected date to upgrade to GNOME-3.20?
At this very moment, GNOME 3.19.91 (aka GNOME 3.20 rc1) is being released and updated in GNOME:Next and GNOME:Factory (GNOME:Next is published for the crazy people, GNOME:Factory is publish disabled, as we advertise it as 'usable', so we did not want to publish unstable GNOME releases there). The release date of GNOME 3.20 by upstream is set to be on March 23. We aim to have this very close to this date ready as well. During the next few days, we will submit GNOME 3.91.90/91 to openSUSE:Factory so we can work on the Staging fallouts and nescessary openQA adjustments, if any should be needed.
2. Do we confirm to take NM-1.0.10, or maybe higher, say, NM-1.2? The later is unstable yet, but if our whole upgrade work lasts more than 6 months, maybe NM-1.2 will be stable at that time. I'm not too eager to pursue the newest package, but it saves our work if I managed to commit some patches to the upstream.
At this moment, NM will be at version 1.0.10 in openSUSE Tumbleweed, but, as noted above, I already have an incomplete branch ready.
I would like to help if any related.
All help is welcome and appreciated! As you know the NM code base pretty well, it might be great for you to: a) ensure our NM 1.0.10 conforms to what you want (Leap shipped with 1.0.6). Basically, all patches should be fine. b) Can have a look at the NM_1.2 branch and help verifying which patches are still needed, rebase what is possible and possibly work with upstream to get them merged. Best regards, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2016-03-01 at 12:23 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
I also already have a branch for NM 1.2 ready (currently 1.1.90), but that is incomplete, mainly due to missing patch rebases. If anybody wants to have a look at this, it's on OBS in home:dimstar:NM_1.2
The branch has been updated to Network Manager 1.1.91. Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks for the work! Should we choose NM-1.2 if it's stable before we finally done SLEsp2 ? And I'm not sure if NM-1.2 requires higher version than GNOME-3.20 Anyway, I'll ask upstream about their plan then. On Tue, 2016-03-01 at 19:16 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
On Tue, 2016-03-01 at 12:23 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
I also already have a branch for NM 1.2 ready (currently 1.1.90), but that is incomplete, mainly due to missing patch rebases. If anybody wants to have a look at this, it's on OBS in home:dimstar:NM_1.2
The branch has been updated to Network Manager 1.1.91.
Cheers, Dominique
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On Thu, 2016-03-03 at 17:08 +0800, Roy Mu wrote:
Thanks for the work! Should we choose NM-1.2 if it's stable before we finally done SLEsp2 ? And I'm not sure if NM-1.2 requires higher version than GNOME-3.20
Anyway, I'll ask upstream about their plan then.
GNOME 3.20 is certainly enough for NM-1.2. The main problem is still that a bunch of patches need to be rebased to make this stack viable for openSUSE: * nm-probe-radius-server-cert.patch * nm-don-t-consider-not-needed-secrets-for-has_system_secr.diff * nm-treat-not-saved-secrets-just-like-agent-owned-when-cl.diff Then, normally, before SLE12SP2 should consider this as a feature (timewise the release should be about equal to GNOME 3.20, so that should not be a problem) it should at least find its way into Tumbleweed for broader exposure. Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2016-03-03 at 10:38 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
GNOME 3.20 is certainly enough for NM-1.2. The main problem is still that a bunch of patches need to be rebased to make this stack viable for openSUSE:
* nm-probe-radius-server-cert.patch * nm-don-t-consider-not-needed-secrets-for-has_system_secr.diff * nm-treat-not-saved-secrets-just-like-agent-owned-when-cl.diff
Yes, I'm working on reviewing them, and trying to negotiate with upstream to apply them. Coincidentally, they're related to a bug I'm working on, so I'm trying to fix them in a row. The problem for me is that these patches are too old (exists before I came to SUSE) that I have to figure out what're the modifications aim for. Or it's hard to convince upstream.
Then, normally, before SLE12SP2 should consider this as a feature (timewise the release should be about equal to GNOME 3.20, so that should not be a problem) it should at least find its way into Tumbleweed for broader exposure.
I see. I will test all the things in Federic's experimental repo, but I don't know the policy of Tumbleweed. Anyway it's fine for me if anyone wants to put it in Tumbleweed. Best regards. -- In the beginning was the lambda. God saw it, realized he didn't need anything else, and stopped there. —— 《FP Bible》 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org
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