Feature changed by: david shar (avenuemax) Feature #311267, revision 3 Title: Two tier option to Community repository list openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: In brief: Working in Yast > Software Repositories Add > Community Repositories 1) Make a default community repo list Eg: OSS, NON-OSS, UPDATES, PACKMAN, NVIDIA, ATI, LIBDVDCSS 2) And offer an advanced option available with a toggle (That should include a warning that it is for advanced users) Where the full community list will be available Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/SUSE%20Misc/community_list_edit.png Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Reason: Typically many users who are installing openSUSE, perhaps for the first time are visiting the community repo list and just switching them all on. The result is not good and is giving users a bad experience. We obviously don't want to remove the option for using the complete list, but it would be better giving at least some indication that a degree of knowledge is required for their use. + Discussion: + #1: david shar (avenuemax) (2011-02-11 09:03:34) + This will be a good move, i vote for it. I remember me enabling all + repos and screwing it up. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311267

Feature changed by: Jim Barnhart (Grandpa49) Feature #311267, revision 6 Title: Two tier option to Community repository list openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: In brief: Working in Yast > Software Repositories Add > Community Repositories 1) Make a default community repo list Eg: OSS, NON-OSS, UPDATES, PACKMAN, NVIDIA, ATI, LIBDVDCSS 2) And offer an advanced option available with a toggle (That should include a warning that it is for advanced users) Where the full community list will be available Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/SUSE%20Misc/community_list_edit.png Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Reason: Typically many users who are installing openSUSE, perhaps for the first time are visiting the community repo list and just switching them all on. The result is not good and is giving users a bad experience. We obviously don't want to remove the option for using the complete list, but it would be better giving at least some indication that a degree of knowledge is required for their use. Discussion: #1: david shar (avenuemax) (2011-02-11 09:03:34) This will be a good move, i vote for it. I remember me enabling all repos and screwing it up. #2: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-13 18:30:30) I think in this way will also profit more advanced users if really *all* other openSUSE repositories will be in the advanced option. For example: When I was testing the 11.4 milestones I had to look for the URL of the compiz repository every time again (when I was testing the live CD versions to exclude my individual faults in my factory- tested installation). + #3: Jim Barnhart (grandpa49) (2011-02-15 02:34:04) + Sounds like a good idea to me. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311267

Feature changed by: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) Feature #311267, revision 10 Title: Two tier option to Community repository list openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: In brief: Working in Yast > Software Repositories Add > Community Repositories 1) Make a default community repo list Eg: OSS, NON-OSS, UPDATES, PACKMAN, NVIDIA, ATI, LIBDVDCSS 2) And offer an advanced option available with a toggle (That should include a warning that it is for advanced users) Where the full community list will be available Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/SUSE%20Misc/community_list_edit.png Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Reason: Typically many users who are installing openSUSE, perhaps for the first time are visiting the community repo list and just switching them all on. The result is not good and is giving users a bad experience. We obviously don't want to remove the option for using the complete list, but it would be better giving at least some indication that a degree of knowledge is required for their use. Discussion: #1: david shar (avenuemax) (2011-02-11 09:03:34) This will be a good move, i vote for it. I remember me enabling all repos and screwing it up. #2: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-13 18:30:30) I think in this way will also profit more advanced users if really *all* other openSUSE repositories will be in the advanced option. For example: When I was testing the 11.4 milestones I had to look for the URL of the compiz repository every time again (when I was testing the live CD versions to exclude my individual faults in my factory- tested installation). + #5: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) (2011-02-18 06:47:20) (reply to #2) + Technically Martin, not all the repositories available in the community + list are openSUSE. It includes for example the likes of: nVidia, ATI... + As for *all*, I can't see that being either practical or logical. The + list is extensive. My proposal really is suggesting that the current + list be classed 'Advanced'. And that it not be default, but a hidden / + available option. And that the default community list be much reduced + to those I specified. + 'Advanced' users will be fully aware of the route to adding any of the + *all* repositories not included in the advanced list. #3: Jim Barnhart (grandpa49) (2011-02-15 02:34:04) Sounds like a good idea to me. #4: Carl Nissen (cfn7) (2011-02-17 04:46:21) A good choice to offer -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311267

Feature changed by: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) Feature #311267, revision 12 Title: Two tier option to Community repository list openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: In brief: Working in Yast > Software Repositories Add > Community Repositories 1) Make a default community repo list Eg: OSS, NON-OSS, UPDATES, PACKMAN, NVIDIA, ATI, LIBDVDCSS 2) And offer an advanced option available with a toggle (That should include a warning that it is for advanced users) Where the full community list will be available Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/SUSE%20Misc/community_list_edit.png Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Reason: Typically many users who are installing openSUSE, perhaps for the first time are visiting the community repo list and just switching them all on. The result is not good and is giving users a bad experience. We obviously don't want to remove the option for using the complete list, but it would be better giving at least some indication that a degree of knowledge is required for their use. Discussion: #1: david shar (avenuemax) (2011-02-11 09:03:34) This will be a good move, i vote for it. I remember me enabling all repos and screwing it up. #2: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-13 18:30:30) I think in this way will also profit more advanced users if really *all* other openSUSE repositories will be in the advanced option. For example: When I was testing the 11.4 milestones I had to look for the URL of the compiz repository every time again (when I was testing the live CD versions to exclude my individual faults in my factory- tested installation). #5: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) (2011-02-18 06:47:20) (reply to #2) Technically Martin, not all the repositories available in the community list are openSUSE. It includes for example the likes of: nVidia, ATI... As for *all*, I can't see that being either practical or logical. The list is extensive. My proposal really is suggesting that the current list be classed 'Advanced'. And that it not be default, but a hidden / available option. And that the default community list be much reduced to those I specified. 'Advanced' users will be fully aware of the route to adding any of the *all* repositories not included in the advanced list. #6: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-24 09:57:30) (reply to #5) Maybe adding a link to the pages on the wiki, where the additional pages are listed would an idea ether as an complement to the now normal=in future additional (second) list or as an alternative to a second list. I guess that a feature like that should be possible - like the internet links in the description of the packages in YaST>Software Manager that could be opened in a browser with normal user privileges if I click on them. #3: Jim Barnhart (grandpa49) (2011-02-15 02:34:04) Sounds like a good idea to me. #4: Carl Nissen (cfn7) (2011-02-17 04:46:21) A good choice to offer + #7: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-24 10:34:27) + To the repository list given as example: + I am not sure if adding the not-official multimedia repositories could + be made so easy without rising problems. Maybe the list of the default + community repo list has to be an other than in the given example for + the boxed versions. But I think this might not be 'that' problem - the + biach DVD-9 may just include other links. - in the slx-forum there is + already a discussion about taking in payed patented unfree codecs to + the boxed version: http://forum.open-slx.de/topic/was-soll-noch-alles-auf-die-dvd2-der-opensuse... + (http://forum.open-slx.de/topic/was-soll-noch-alles-auf-die-dvd2-der-opensuse...) + -> so adding links to according payed repositories or adding no links + to no other multimedia repositories may be the best solution if this + proposal from the slx-forum should be realized - if or if not this + openFATE #311267 - Two tier option to Community repository list would + become part of the download versions of openSUSE. + And it does not affect the propose in general (just the given + example). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311267

Feature changed by: Richard Brown (RBrownSUSE) Feature #311267, revision 15 Title: Two tier option to Community repository list - openSUSE Distribution: New + openSUSE Distribution: Rejected by Richard Brown (rbrownsuse) + reject reason: Some ideas might be carried forward into a concept for + 'Incubation' class of projects Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: In brief: Working in Yast > Software Repositories Add > Community Repositories 1) Make a default community repo list Eg: OSS, NON-OSS, UPDATES, PACKMAN, NVIDIA, ATI, LIBDVDCSS 2) And offer an advanced option available with a toggle (That should include a warning that it is for advanced users) Where the full community list will be available Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/SUSE%20Misc/community_list_edit.png Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Reason: Typically many users who are installing openSUSE, perhaps for the first time are visiting the community repo list and just switching them all on. The result is not good and is giving users a bad experience. We obviously don't want to remove the option for using the complete list, but it would be better giving at least some indication that a degree of knowledge is required for their use. Discussion: #1: david shar (avenuemax) (2011-02-11 09:03:34) This will be a good move, i vote for it. I remember me enabling all repos and screwing it up. #2: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-13 18:30:30) I think in this way will also profit more advanced users if really *all* other openSUSE repositories will be in the advanced option. For example: When I was testing the 11.4 milestones I had to look for the URL of the compiz repository every time again (when I was testing the live CD versions to exclude my individual faults in my factory- tested installation). #5: Carl Fletcher (caf4926) (2011-02-18 06:47:20) (reply to #2) Technically Martin, not all the repositories available in the community list are openSUSE. It includes for example the likes of: nVidia, ATI... As for *all*, I can't see that being either practical or logical. The list is extensive. My proposal really is suggesting that the current list be classed 'Advanced'. And that it not be default, but a hidden / available option. And that the default community list be much reduced to those I specified. 'Advanced' users will be fully aware of the route to adding any of the *all* repositories not included in the advanced list. #6: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-24 09:57:30) (reply to #5) Maybe adding a link to the pages on the wiki, where the additional pages are listed would an idea ether as an complement to the now normal=in future additional (second) list or as an alternative to a second list. I guess that a feature like that should be possible - like the internet links in the description of the packages in YaST>Software Manager that could be opened in a browser with normal user privileges if I click on them. #3: Jim Barnhart (grandpa49) (2011-02-15 02:34:04) Sounds like a good idea to me. #4: Carl Nissen (cfn7) (2011-02-17 04:46:21) A good choice to offer #7: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) (2011-02-24 10:34:27) To the repository list given as example: I am not sure if adding the not-official multimedia repositories could be made so easy without rising problems. Maybe the list of the default community repo list has to be an other than in the given example for the boxed versions. But I think this might not be 'that' problem - the biach DVD-9 may just include other links. - in the slx-forum there is already a discussion about taking in payed patented unfree codecs to the boxed version: http://forum.open-slx.de/topic/was-soll-noch-alles-auf-die-dvd2-der-opensuse... (http://forum.open-slx.de/topic/was-soll-noch-alles-auf-die-dvd2-der-opensuse...) -> so adding links to according payed repositories or adding no links to no other multimedia repositories may be the best solution if this proposal from the slx-forum should be realized - if or if not this openFATE #311267 - Two tier option to Community repository list would become part of the download versions of openSUSE. And it does not affect the propose in general (just the given example). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311267