Feature changed by: Robert Davies (robopensuse) Feature #305874, revision 8 Title: Enable peer to peer downloading of patches/software Buildservice: New Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-03-30 20:21:06 reject reason: out of focus Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Johan Kotze (gogga) Description: It would be great if we could somehow include a peer to peer functionality for the download of patches/packages. This would greatly reduce the number of mirrors required and would increase the performance for many users in countries with limited international bandwidt. I was thinking that we host a torrent tracker on opensuse.org and build a torrent client into zypper/libzypp and allow the user to allocate a portion of disk space for downloaded packages. Most modern systems have ample disk space and should be able to spare around 4GB for downloaded packages. This is also in line with the spirit of community where we help each other out. If it works well, it could also be used to distribute patched internally inside an organization when they deploy SLE. Discussion: #1: Marek Stopka (m4r3k) (2009-03-06 09:03:43) I would rather see something like GNUnet used for this :-) #2: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:23:00) I would think with using aria2 as download client, it would automatically work once we use opensuse.org tracker for _everything_. But if not, we push the software side to 11.3, as for 11.2 we only want to work on the top 5 features. + #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-30 19:30:27) + What I'm seeing downloading oS via torrent, is shortage of seeders, + downloading with aria2c gets  the file quickly, but then what's the + point of p2p if the finished downloaders don't stick around for a + while. + So in short, aria2c is great but doing p2p right, requires a YaST + module to configure upload bandwidth, perhaps open firewall port, and + some policy to keep downloaded files for some time to seed. May to + avoid global overload with huge numbers seediers & peers, some type of + localised tracker required analagous to NTP servers, with country & + continent pools. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305874

Feature changed by: Adrian Schröter (adrianSuSE) Feature #305874, revision 10 Title: Enable peer to peer downloading of patches/software - Buildservice: New + Buildservice: Rejected by (adrianSuSE) + reject date: 2010-02-20 10:10:08 + reject reason: fail to understand what feature in OBS is needed here. + Please reopen if you can describe that. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-03-30 20:21:06 reject reason: out of focus Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Johan Kotze (gogga) Description: It would be great if we could somehow include a peer to peer functionality for the download of patches/packages. This would greatly reduce the number of mirrors required and would increase the performance for many users in countries with limited international bandwidt. I was thinking that we host a torrent tracker on opensuse.org and build a torrent client into zypper/libzypp and allow the user to allocate a portion of disk space for downloaded packages. Most modern systems have ample disk space and should be able to spare around 4GB for downloaded packages. This is also in line with the spirit of community where we help each other out. If it works well, it could also be used to distribute patched internally inside an organization when they deploy SLE. Discussion: #1: Marek Stopka (m4r3k) (2009-03-06 09:03:43) I would rather see something like GNUnet used for this :-) #2: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:23:00) I would think with using aria2 as download client, it would automatically work once we use opensuse.org tracker for _everything_. But if not, we push the software side to 11.3, as for 11.2 we only want to work on the top 5 features. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-30 19:30:27) What I'm seeing downloading oS via torrent, is shortage of seeders, downloading with aria2c gets  the file quickly, but then what's the point of p2p if the finished downloaders don't stick around for a while. So in short, aria2c is great but doing p2p right, requires a YaST module to configure upload bandwidth, perhaps open firewall port, and some policy to keep downloaded files for some time to seed. May to avoid global overload with huge numbers seediers & peers, some type of localised tracker required analagous to NTP servers, with country & continent pools. #4: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-30 19:33:46) Just to add a concern might be to download/upload within ISP (or intranet's) network range, due to bandwidth & traffic rationing, not just raw speed. + #5: Adrian Schröter (adriansuse) (2010-02-20 10:09:39) + I fail to see what feature from OBS is needed here. I suppose this is + independend of it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305874

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #305874, revision 12 Title: Enable peer to peer downloading of patches/software Buildservice: Rejected by Adrian Schröter (adriansuse) reject date: 2010-02-20 10:10:08 reject reason: fail to understand what feature in OBS is needed here. Please reopen if you can describe that. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-03-30 20:21:06 reject reason: out of focus Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Stanislav Visnovsky (visnov) reject reason: Not done. Moving to backlog. Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Johan Kotze (gogga) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: It would be great if we could somehow include a peer to peer functionality for the download of patches/packages. This would greatly reduce the number of mirrors required and would increase the performance for many users in countries with limited international bandwidt. I was thinking that we host a torrent tracker on opensuse.org and build a torrent client into zypper/libzypp and allow the user to allocate a portion of disk space for downloaded packages. Most modern systems have ample disk space and should be able to spare around 4GB for downloaded packages. This is also in line with the spirit of community where we help each other out. If it works well, it could also be used to distribute patched internally inside an organization when they deploy SLE. Discussion: #1: Marek Stopka (m4r3k) (2009-03-06 09:03:43) I would rather see something like GNUnet used for this :-) #2: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-30 20:23:00) I would think with using aria2 as download client, it would automatically work once we use opensuse.org tracker for _everything_. But if not, we push the software side to 11.3, as for 11.2 we only want to work on the top 5 features. #3: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-30 19:30:27) What I'm seeing downloading oS via torrent, is shortage of seeders, downloading with aria2c gets  the file quickly, but then what's the point of p2p if the finished downloaders don't stick around for a while. So in short, aria2c is great but doing p2p right, requires a YaST module to configure upload bandwidth, perhaps open firewall port, and some policy to keep downloaded files for some time to seed. May to avoid global overload with huge numbers seediers & peers, some type of localised tracker required analagous to NTP servers, with country & continent pools. #4: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-30 19:33:46) Just to add a concern might be to download/upload within ISP (or intranet's) network range, due to bandwidth & traffic rationing, not just raw speed. #5: Adrian Schröter (adriansuse) (2010-02-20 10:09:39) I fail to see what feature from OBS is needed here. I suppose this is independend of it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305874