Feature changed by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Feature #306980, revision 2 Title: Reengineer the softwarerepo's / create a rolling distro openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Gunter Schelfhout (xgunterx) Description: The present reposystem is too complicated for lots of users. There are simply too many of them, with possible conflicts and the priority system for these repo's is too cinfusing. This should be reengineered and looking to Debian and Ubuntu is not that unwise. There should be only a few repo's: - one with all the packages for the present released version (and the other previous version which are still maintained), - one with the updates, - one for all the packages which will be incuded in the next version of OpenSUSE, - one for all the packages which are in the testing fase AND all the packages which are out of testing and will be included in the next version.   This mimics indeed the 'stable-testing-unstable' system of Debian and Ubuntu but it has indeed lots of benifits: - it is easy to understand, - a system as this creates 3 subversions between the release of two versions, meaning stable-testing-unstable is a omplete working version on it own, - users can decide EASY what they prefer: a stable environment with security updates, a more or less stable environment which is tracking the feature updates from the developers more and which are to be included in the next release and a testing version which is tracking the updates of the developers on the foot and might break their environment. - more people will choose the testing environment for wanting the bleeding edge packages which will result in more bugreports which will put the actual released version to a higher standard. - from here it is just a small step to create a rolling distro ... + Discussion: + #1: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2009-07-29 14:52:20) + Normal users don't need many repos and shouldn't use them. Only the + official repos (including Contrib) + Packman. With Contrib and Factory + opening up, more packages should become available and the need for + additional repos should diminish further. + Factory is already a rolling and (very) unstable distro for those that + want that. + Quite possibly the OBS pjojects should be grouped and cleaned a little + bit more to be more manageable from a user point of view. But the + general concept is a great asset for openSUSE - allowing users to run e. + g. latest KDE on an otherwise stable, frozen system. On other distros + people have to use a completely unstable system or a completely frozen + one - when trying to mix the two it generally goes bad. +   -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306980

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #306980, revision 4 Title: Reengineer the softwarerepo's / create a rolling distro - openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2009-08-12 14:54:58 + reject reason: I agree with the general problem but this needs a + different solution like a software catalog. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Gunter Schelfhout (xgunterx) Description: The present reposystem is too complicated for lots of users. There are simply too many of them, with possible conflicts and the priority system for these repo's is too cinfusing. This should be reengineered and looking to Debian and Ubuntu is not that unwise. There should be only a few repo's: - one with all the packages for the present released version (and the other previous version which are still maintained), - one with the updates, - one for all the packages which will be incuded in the next version of OpenSUSE, - one for all the packages which are in the testing fase AND all the packages which are out of testing and will be included in the next version. -   This mimics indeed the 'stable-testing-unstable' system of Debian and Ubuntu but it has indeed lots of benifits: - it is easy to understand, - a system as this creates 3 subversions between the release of two versions, meaning stable-testing-unstable is a omplete working version on it own, - users can decide EASY what they prefer: a stable environment with security updates, a more or less stable environment which is tracking the feature updates from the developers more and which are to be included in the next release and a testing version which is tracking the updates of the developers on the foot and might break their environment. - more people will choose the testing environment for wanting the bleeding edge packages which will result in more bugreports which will put the actual released version to a higher standard. - from here it is just a small step to create a rolling distro ... Discussion: #1: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2009-07-29 14:52:20) Normal users don't need many repos and shouldn't use them. Only the official repos (including Contrib) + Packman. With Contrib and Factory opening up, more packages should become available and the need for additional repos should diminish further. Factory is already a rolling and (very) unstable distro for those that want that. Quite possibly the OBS pjojects should be grouped and cleaned a little bit more to be more manageable from a user point of view. But the general concept is a great asset for openSUSE - allowing users to run e. g. latest KDE on an otherwise stable, frozen system. On other distros people have to use a completely unstable system or a completely frozen one - when trying to mix the two it generally goes bad. -   + #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-08-12 14:54:32) + We need to give users a better view - but that should be handled + differentely than proposed. The many repos are the developers view. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306980