Feature changed by: Steven Sroka (Lin-unix) Feature #312894, revision 4 Title: Adopt Kaptan Desktop Greeter in openSUSE openSUSE 12.1: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Drew Adams (druonysus) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Pardus is a great KDE distro and has one of the best "Desktop Greeter" of any KDE distro I have ever used, Kaptan. "Kaptan is a wizard that helps user to customize desktop enviroment after installing Pardus. While Kaptan is giving some information about Pardus, it also sets basic configures such as internet connection, wall paper and so on." http://developer.pardus.org.tr/projects/kaptan/ Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Kaptan facilitates these features from one start-up desktop greeter wizard: Mouse configuration Theme and KDE Menu selection Setting wall paper Asking user to search with Strigi Network management Smolt for sending hardware information Discussion: #1: Yannis Anthymidis (evropi) (2011-10-16 23:47:46) I disagree. Although it's definitely a nice program, the actions it facilitates can easily be found even by a new user. This sort of setup would be better off included in the installation program of openSUSE (not sure what it's called, it's reminiscent of Tribe in Chakra though). Furthermore, notifications pop up immediately upon installation in case the network has problems, at least under Ethernet. And again, under a wireless connection, the symbol to set up a connection is self-explanatory to anyone who has ever used a computer before or walked outside a coffee shop (these days that is!). Finally, I find its use of the "Kaptan" (a cartoon ship captain) mascot off- putting and far too immature for a project like openSUSE. Not only is Kaptan inappopriate, but also needless and a delay for users waiting to use the system much like the infamous 20-step graphical Debian installation procedure. + #2: Steven Sroka (lin-unix) (2011-10-23 23:57:06) (reply to #1) + I agree with some of your points Yannis, but the current greeter is not + very good. A month ago (or so) some openSUSE developers were talking + about changing the greeter. So this FATE is right up their alley. + I think the Kaptan greeter (greatly simplified) would be most welcome. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312894

Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #312894, revision 7 Title: Adopt Kaptan Desktop Greeter in openSUSE openSUSE 12.1: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable + openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Desirable Requested by: Drew Adams (druonysus) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Pardus is a great KDE distro and has one of the best "Desktop Greeter" of any KDE distro I have ever used, Kaptan. "Kaptan is a wizard that helps user to customize desktop enviroment after installing Pardus. While Kaptan is giving some information about Pardus, it also sets basic configures such as internet connection, wall paper and so on." http://developer.pardus.org.tr/projects/kaptan/ Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Kaptan facilitates these features from one start-up desktop greeter wizard: Mouse configuration Theme and KDE Menu selection Setting wall paper Asking user to search with Strigi Network management Smolt for sending hardware information Discussion: #1: Yannis Anthymidis (evropi) (2011-10-16 23:47:46) I disagree. Although it's definitely a nice program, the actions it facilitates can easily be found even by a new user. This sort of setup would be better off included in the installation program of openSUSE (not sure what it's called, it's reminiscent of Tribe in Chakra though). Furthermore, notifications pop up immediately upon installation in case the network has problems, at least under Ethernet. And again, under a wireless connection, the symbol to set up a connection is self-explanatory to anyone who has ever used a computer before or walked outside a coffee shop (these days that is!). Finally, I find its use of the "Kaptan" (a cartoon ship captain) mascot off- putting and far too immature for a project like openSUSE. Not only is Kaptan inappopriate, but also needless and a delay for users waiting to use the system much like the infamous 20-step graphical Debian installation procedure. #2: Steven Sroka (lin-unix) (2011-10-23 23:57:06) (reply to #1) I agree with some of your points Yannis, but the current greeter is not very good. A month ago (or so) some openSUSE developers were talking about changing the greeter. So this FATE is right up their alley. I think the Kaptan greeter (greatly simplified) would be most welcome. #3: Roger Luedecke (shadowolf7) (2011-10-24 04:48:51) Brilliant! This is exactly what I had in mind. We can of course alter it to suit our needs and branding. Besides that it can be informative, it can easily introduce people to the fun of KDE theming! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312894

Feature changed by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #312894, revision 9 Title: Desktop Greeter in openSUSE like Kaptan in Pardus openSUSE 12.1: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Drew Adams (druonysus) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Pardus is a great KDE distro and has one of the best "Desktop Greeter" of any KDE distro I have ever used, Kaptan. "Kaptan is a wizard that helps user to customize desktop enviroment after installing Pardus. While Kaptan is giving some information about Pardus, it also sets basic configures such as internet connection, wall paper and so on." http://developer.pardus.org.tr/projects/kaptan/ + Use Case: + Kaptan like greeter is useful for people that have no human assistance + to setup their just installed operating system. Help wizard that starts + right after first boot will check what is already automatically set up + and lead user trough steps necessary to configure the rest. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Kaptan facilitates these features from one start-up desktop greeter wizard: Mouse configuration Theme and KDE Menu selection Setting wall paper Asking user to search with Strigi Network management Smolt for sending hardware information Discussion: #1: Yannis Anthymidis (evropi) (2011-10-16 23:47:46) I disagree. Although it's definitely a nice program, the actions it facilitates can easily be found even by a new user. This sort of setup would be better off included in the installation program of openSUSE (not sure what it's called, it's reminiscent of Tribe in Chakra though). Furthermore, notifications pop up immediately upon installation in case the network has problems, at least under Ethernet. And again, under a wireless connection, the symbol to set up a connection is self-explanatory to anyone who has ever used a computer before or walked outside a coffee shop (these days that is!). Finally, I find its use of the "Kaptan" (a cartoon ship captain) mascot off- putting and far too immature for a project like openSUSE. Not only is Kaptan inappopriate, but also needless and a delay for users waiting to use the system much like the infamous 20-step graphical Debian installation procedure. #2: Steven Sroka (lin-unix) (2011-10-23 23:57:06) (reply to #1) I agree with some of your points Yannis, but the current greeter is not very good. A month ago (or so) some openSUSE developers were talking about changing the greeter. So this FATE is right up their alley. I think the Kaptan greeter (greatly simplified) would be most welcome. #3: Roger Luedecke (shadowolf7) (2011-10-24 04:48:51) Brilliant! This is exactly what I had in mind. We can of course alter it to suit our needs and branding. Besides that it can be informative, it can easily introduce people to the fun of KDE theming! -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312894

Feature changed by: Roger Luedecke (Shadowolf7) Feature #312894, revision 12 Title: Desktop Greeter in openSUSE like Kaptan in Pardus openSUSE 12.1: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Drew Adams (druonysus) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Pardus is a great KDE distro and has one of the best "Desktop Greeter" of any KDE distro I have ever used, Kaptan. "Kaptan is a wizard that helps user to customize desktop enviroment after installing Pardus. While Kaptan is giving some information about Pardus, it also sets basic configures such as internet connection, wall paper and so on." http://developer.pardus.org.tr/projects/kaptan/ Use Case: Kaptan like greeter is useful for people that have no human assistance to setup their just installed operating system. Help wizard that starts right after first boot will check what is already automatically set up and lead user trough steps necessary to configure the rest. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Kaptan facilitates these features from one start-up desktop greeter wizard: Mouse configuration Theme and KDE Menu selection Setting wall paper Asking user to search with Strigi Network management Smolt for sending hardware information Discussion: #1: Yannis Anthymidis (evropi) (2011-10-16 23:47:46) I disagree. Although it's definitely a nice program, the actions it facilitates can easily be found even by a new user. This sort of setup would be better off included in the installation program of openSUSE (not sure what it's called, it's reminiscent of Tribe in Chakra though). Furthermore, notifications pop up immediately upon installation in case the network has problems, at least under Ethernet. And again, under a wireless connection, the symbol to set up a connection is self-explanatory to anyone who has ever used a computer before or walked outside a coffee shop (these days that is!). Finally, I find its use of the "Kaptan" (a cartoon ship captain) mascot off- putting and far too immature for a project like openSUSE. Not only is Kaptan inappopriate, but also needless and a delay for users waiting to use the system much like the infamous 20-step graphical Debian installation procedure. #2: Steven Sroka (lin-unix) (2011-10-23 23:57:06) (reply to #1) I agree with some of your points Yannis, but the current greeter is not very good. A month ago (or so) some openSUSE developers were talking about changing the greeter. So this FATE is right up their alley. I think the Kaptan greeter (greatly simplified) would be most welcome. #3: Roger Luedecke (shadowolf7) (2011-10-24 04:48:51) Brilliant! This is exactly what I had in mind. We can of course alter it to suit our needs and branding. Besides that it can be informative, it can easily introduce people to the fun of KDE theming! #4: Tolga Aydemir (malachi54) (2011-11-01 15:56:53) i think this is a very nice idea. the kde "control center" is really huge. And helping a total newbie in the beginning is nice. i do not think it will take a lot of time. it should be simple. and a "pro user" just had to click X for the one time and it is done... @yannis first i read your comment and then the other comments.. and Steven wrote your name... then i had to laugh xD i really hope your opinion has nothing to do with the "greece/turkey history" xD if i am wrong: sorry =) + #5: Roger Luedecke (shadowolf7) (2011-11-08 03:37:42) (reply to #4) + Agreed. KDE is especially intimidating to new users with the huge and + convoluted control panel. If it weren't for that, KDE would be more new + user friendly in most regards than GNOME. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/312894