August 2008 - openSUSE Features - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[openFate 305146] Use old system network configuration when updating instead of demanding a new one
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Feature added by: Lukas Ocilka <locilka(a)novell.com> Feature #305146, revision 1, last change by Title: Use old system network configuration when updating instead of demanding a new one openSUSE-11.2: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Pacho Ramos <pacho(a)condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Currently, when I try to update from opensuse 10.3 to 11.0 with DVD and I want to add network repositories, I have to configure again my network for opensuse installer even when it is already configured on my opensuse-10.3 I think that would be much better try to use network configuration from old installation and only ask user if a problem occurs Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: System update from media: Start installation / Update, select network-based repositories to be used, you will be asked to configure the network. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305146

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[openFate 305170] openFATE test
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

Feature added by: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> Feature #305170, revision 1, last change by Title: openFATE test openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: test Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: sdf -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305170

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[openFate 305162] Support Ext4 in Grub
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Feature added by: coly li <coyli(a)novell.com> Feature #305162, revision 1, last change by Title: Support Ext4 in Grub openSUSE-11.1: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: coly li <coyli(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Ext4 is in upstream kernel already. But since lack of grub legacy supporting, Ext4 can not be used as booting partition. By effort of opensuse's GSoC project, Ext4 stage1.5 is aded into grub legacy. We should consider adding the feature in next opensuse release. Code can be found from http://code.google.com/p/grub4ext4/downloads/list -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305162

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[openFate 305077] Improve support for macbook/pro
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Feature added by: Michael Loeffler (michl(a)novell.com) Feature #305077, revision 1 Title: Improve support for macbook/pro openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Michael Loeffler (michl(a)novell.com) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The recent ubuntu 7.10 release had really really good macbook pro support. Since it is doable, it would be great to have better support in opensuse 11.0 for the macbook/pro. ie, mouse (trackpad), keyboard, wireless, bluetooth, sound, etc. http://en.opensuse.org/MacBook_Pro_Specials http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_on_MacBook_Pro_Intel_(x86) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305077

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[openFate 304889] needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Feature changed by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Feature #304889, revision 25 Title: needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag openSUSE-11.1: Candidate Priority Requester: Neutral Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are situations, where relogin or reboot are needed to activate update: * package updates * proxy settings Now this situation is not done in a consistent way (silently ignoring problem, note in help, abuse of License entry, pop-up...). Providing a common way for setting these flags (via package provides, YaST calls, sysconfig comments) (and maybe comment what will happen ignoring it) would help in user experience (user is notified about need of relogin/reboot in a consistent way and only once) and administration (automatic relogin or reboot during maintenance window). Discussion: #1: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2008-06-26 14:15:12) needs_reboot is properly handled by our tools. needs_relogin does not exist. #2: Jiri Srain <jsrain(a)novell.com> (2008-07-07 10:46:59) (reply to #1) We handle reboot only for package management not for anything else (the question is whether it is relevant somewhere else), thus we will need to have a more generic solution. Martin, would you, please, have a look and suggest a generic handler? #3: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-07-09 15:26:16) needs_relogin would be useful in these situations: * New package, which provides file in /etc/profile.d was installed (or /etc/profile.d was singnificantly modified by the update). Example: ladspa * Packages, that cause that /etc/profile will evaluate environment. Example: Install any KDE application in GNOME only system. /opt/kde3 is not in PATH until next login * Patches, that affect login related programs. Example: security update of ssh-agent or gnome-keyring * YaST settings, that cause environment variable changes. Example: System proxy settings #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:14) Stefan, how is restart and reboot currently handled in packagekit, what would we need for relogin? #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:58) (note, ZYpp parts are already done, applications missing ) #6: Stefan Haas <shaas(a)novell.com> (2008-08-08 09:55:52) PackageKit has three different types for reboot/restart: -Restart System -Restart Application -Restart Session #7: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:11) Stefan Haas will adapt code from PackageKit to support this flag. #8: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:57) Thomas, does the KDE applet handle the relogin needed flag from PackageKit? #10: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-13 14:27:08) (reply to #8) kde4-kupdateapplet listens to PackageKit's restart signal since version 0.8.4. #9: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:26:53) Ladislav, is are the current flags in YaST handled in pkg-bindings? #11: Ladislav Slezak <lslezak(a)novell.com> (2008-08-20 12:16:02) (reply to #9) I just have committed the support for Patch::reloginSuggested() flag in yast SVN. It will be in yast2-pkg-bindings-2.17.8. I guess we also need some support in YCP... Jiri? #12: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 15:19:11) Thomas/Stefan: which message does the applet show? I think we should try to show the same one in YaST and zypper. (BTW, zypper should be adapted as well -> Jano) #13: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 17:20:24) (reply to #12) kupdateapplet shows "Please reboot your system as soon as possible." or "Please relogin into your system as soon as possible.". If PackageKit provides details, these details are shown too. Please let me know if you prefer other strings. #14: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 09:36:44) (reply to #13) Thanks. So I'm going to use this one "At least one of the updates installed requires restart of the session. Relogin into your system as soon as possible." I removed the "Please" intentionally, as such wording should not be used (I assume it can be found is the text style guide) and added kind of explanation sentence (similar is used by YaST in similar situations). #15: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:16:33) (reply to #14) I've removed the "please", too. Thanks for your hint. #16: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:21:14) (reply to #14) Please tell me, how could I set this flag in the spec file. Actually, scriptlets are the best place to do it, as there is possible to filter unneeded restarts. Example: If krb5-client package is installed for the first time, relogin is required, but in case of update from new enough version, relogin is not needed, because there is no change in /etc/profile. d/krb5.sh. #18: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:51:59) (reply to #16) I have no idea if this flag can be used for packages. My understanding is that it is part of patch description. + #19: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 12:44:15) (reply + to #18) + Relogin is needed especially for newly installed packages. "As a + generic flag" in the FATE was intended as: Generic solution usable in + both yast and packages. Packages need most probably a command line + utility to set this flag in YaST. #17: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:50:48) (reply to #12) YaST part done in yast2-online-update-2.17.5 -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=304889

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[openFate 304889] needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Feature changed by: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> Feature #304889, revision 24 Title: needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag openSUSE-11.1: Candidate Priority Requester: Neutral Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are situations, where relogin or reboot are needed to activate update: * package updates * proxy settings Now this situation is not done in a consistent way (silently ignoring problem, note in help, abuse of License entry, pop-up...). Providing a common way for setting these flags (via package provides, YaST calls, sysconfig comments) (and maybe comment what will happen ignoring it) would help in user experience (user is notified about need of relogin/reboot in a consistent way and only once) and administration (automatic relogin or reboot during maintenance window). Discussion: #1: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2008-06-26 14:15:12) needs_reboot is properly handled by our tools. needs_relogin does not exist. #2: Jiri Srain <jsrain(a)novell.com> (2008-07-07 10:46:59) (reply to #1) We handle reboot only for package management not for anything else (the question is whether it is relevant somewhere else), thus we will need to have a more generic solution. Martin, would you, please, have a look and suggest a generic handler? #3: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-07-09 15:26:16) needs_relogin would be useful in these situations: * New package, which provides file in /etc/profile.d was installed (or /etc/profile.d was singnificantly modified by the update). Example: ladspa * Packages, that cause that /etc/profile will evaluate environment. Example: Install any KDE application in GNOME only system. /opt/kde3 is not in PATH until next login * Patches, that affect login related programs. Example: security update of ssh-agent or gnome-keyring * YaST settings, that cause environment variable changes. Example: System proxy settings #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:14) Stefan, how is restart and reboot currently handled in packagekit, what would we need for relogin? #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:58) (note, ZYpp parts are already done, applications missing ) #6: Stefan Haas <shaas(a)novell.com> (2008-08-08 09:55:52) PackageKit has three different types for reboot/restart: -Restart System -Restart Application -Restart Session #7: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:11) Stefan Haas will adapt code from PackageKit to support this flag. #8: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:57) Thomas, does the KDE applet handle the relogin needed flag from PackageKit? #10: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-13 14:27:08) (reply to #8) kde4-kupdateapplet listens to PackageKit's restart signal since version 0.8.4. #9: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:26:53) Ladislav, is are the current flags in YaST handled in pkg-bindings? #11: Ladislav Slezak <lslezak(a)novell.com> (2008-08-20 12:16:02) (reply to #9) I just have committed the support for Patch::reloginSuggested() flag in yast SVN. It will be in yast2-pkg-bindings-2.17.8. I guess we also need some support in YCP... Jiri? #12: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 15:19:11) Thomas/Stefan: which message does the applet show? I think we should try to show the same one in YaST and zypper. (BTW, zypper should be adapted as well -> Jano) #13: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 17:20:24) (reply to #12) kupdateapplet shows "Please reboot your system as soon as possible." or "Please relogin into your system as soon as possible.". If PackageKit provides details, these details are shown too. Please let me know if you prefer other strings. #14: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 09:36:44) (reply to #13) Thanks. So I'm going to use this one "At least one of the updates installed requires restart of the session. Relogin into your system as soon as possible." I removed the "Please" intentionally, as such wording should not be used (I assume it can be found is the text style guide) and added kind of explanation sentence (similar is used by YaST in similar situations). #15: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:16:33) (reply to #14) I've removed the "please", too. Thanks for your hint. #16: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:21:14) (reply to #14) Please tell me, how could I set this flag in the spec file. Actually, scriptlets are the best place to do it, as there is possible to filter unneeded restarts. Example: If krb5-client package is installed for the first time, relogin is required, but in case of update from new enough version, relogin is not needed, because there is no change in /etc/profile. d/krb5.sh. + #18: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:51:59) (reply + to #16) + I have no idea if this flag can be used for packages. My understanding + is that it is part of patch description. + #17: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:50:48) (reply + to #12) + YaST part done in yast2-online-update-2.17.5 -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=304889

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[openFate 304889] needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Feature changed by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Feature #304889, revision 23 Title: needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag openSUSE-11.1: Candidate Priority Requester: Neutral Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are situations, where relogin or reboot are needed to activate update: * package updates * proxy settings Now this situation is not done in a consistent way (silently ignoring problem, note in help, abuse of License entry, pop-up...). Providing a common way for setting these flags (via package provides, YaST calls, sysconfig comments) (and maybe comment what will happen ignoring it) would help in user experience (user is notified about need of relogin/reboot in a consistent way and only once) and administration (automatic relogin or reboot during maintenance window). Discussion: #1: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2008-06-26 14:15:12) needs_reboot is properly handled by our tools. needs_relogin does not exist. #2: Jiri Srain <jsrain(a)novell.com> (2008-07-07 10:46:59) (reply to #1) We handle reboot only for package management not for anything else (the question is whether it is relevant somewhere else), thus we will need to have a more generic solution. Martin, would you, please, have a look and suggest a generic handler? #3: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-07-09 15:26:16) needs_relogin would be useful in these situations: * New package, which provides file in /etc/profile.d was installed (or /etc/profile.d was singnificantly modified by the update). Example: ladspa * Packages, that cause that /etc/profile will evaluate environment. Example: Install any KDE application in GNOME only system. /opt/kde3 is not in PATH until next login * Patches, that affect login related programs. Example: security update of ssh-agent or gnome-keyring * YaST settings, that cause environment variable changes. Example: System proxy settings #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:14) Stefan, how is restart and reboot currently handled in packagekit, what would we need for relogin? #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:58) (note, ZYpp parts are already done, applications missing ) #6: Stefan Haas <shaas(a)novell.com> (2008-08-08 09:55:52) PackageKit has three different types for reboot/restart: -Restart System -Restart Application -Restart Session #7: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:11) Stefan Haas will adapt code from PackageKit to support this flag. #8: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:57) Thomas, does the KDE applet handle the relogin needed flag from PackageKit? #10: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-13 14:27:08) (reply to #8) kde4-kupdateapplet listens to PackageKit's restart signal since version 0.8.4. #9: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:26:53) Ladislav, is are the current flags in YaST handled in pkg-bindings? #11: Ladislav Slezak <lslezak(a)novell.com> (2008-08-20 12:16:02) (reply to #9) I just have committed the support for Patch::reloginSuggested() flag in yast SVN. It will be in yast2-pkg-bindings-2.17.8. I guess we also need some support in YCP... Jiri? #12: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 15:19:11) Thomas/Stefan: which message does the applet show? I think we should try to show the same one in YaST and zypper. (BTW, zypper should be adapted as well -> Jano) #13: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 17:20:24) (reply to #12) kupdateapplet shows "Please reboot your system as soon as possible." or "Please relogin into your system as soon as possible.". If PackageKit provides details, these details are shown too. Please let me know if you prefer other strings. #14: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 09:36:44) (reply to #13) Thanks. So I'm going to use this one "At least one of the updates installed requires restart of the session. Relogin into your system as soon as possible." I removed the "Please" intentionally, as such wording should not be used (I assume it can be found is the text style guide) and added kind of explanation sentence (similar is used by YaST in similar situations). #15: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:16:33) (reply to #14) I've removed the "please", too. Thanks for your hint. + #16: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:21:14) (reply + to #14) + Please tell me, how could I set this flag in the spec file. Actually, + scriptlets are the best place to do it, as there is possible to filter + unneeded restarts. + Example: If krb5-client package is installed for the first time, + relogin is required, but in case of update from new enough version, + relogin is not needed, because there is no change in /etc/profile. + d/krb5.sh. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=304889

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[openFate 304889] needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Feature changed by: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> Feature #304889, revision 22 Title: needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag openSUSE-11.1: Candidate Priority Requester: Neutral Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are situations, where relogin or reboot are needed to activate update: * package updates * proxy settings Now this situation is not done in a consistent way (silently ignoring problem, note in help, abuse of License entry, pop-up...). Providing a common way for setting these flags (via package provides, YaST calls, sysconfig comments) (and maybe comment what will happen ignoring it) would help in user experience (user is notified about need of relogin/reboot in a consistent way and only once) and administration (automatic relogin or reboot during maintenance window). Discussion: #1: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2008-06-26 14:15:12) needs_reboot is properly handled by our tools. needs_relogin does not exist. #2: Jiri Srain <jsrain(a)novell.com> (2008-07-07 10:46:59) (reply to #1) We handle reboot only for package management not for anything else (the question is whether it is relevant somewhere else), thus we will need to have a more generic solution. Martin, would you, please, have a look and suggest a generic handler? #3: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-07-09 15:26:16) needs_relogin would be useful in these situations: * New package, which provides file in /etc/profile.d was installed (or /etc/profile.d was singnificantly modified by the update). Example: ladspa * Packages, that cause that /etc/profile will evaluate environment. Example: Install any KDE application in GNOME only system. /opt/kde3 is not in PATH until next login * Patches, that affect login related programs. Example: security update of ssh-agent or gnome-keyring * YaST settings, that cause environment variable changes. Example: System proxy settings #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:14) Stefan, how is restart and reboot currently handled in packagekit, what would we need for relogin? #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:58) (note, ZYpp parts are already done, applications missing ) #6: Stefan Haas <shaas(a)novell.com> (2008-08-08 09:55:52) PackageKit has three different types for reboot/restart: -Restart System -Restart Application -Restart Session #7: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:11) Stefan Haas will adapt code from PackageKit to support this flag. #8: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:57) Thomas, does the KDE applet handle the relogin needed flag from PackageKit? #10: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-13 14:27:08) (reply to #8) kde4-kupdateapplet listens to PackageKit's restart signal since version 0.8.4. #9: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:26:53) Ladislav, is are the current flags in YaST handled in pkg-bindings? #11: Ladislav Slezak <lslezak(a)novell.com> (2008-08-20 12:16:02) (reply to #9) I just have committed the support for Patch::reloginSuggested() flag in yast SVN. It will be in yast2-pkg-bindings-2.17.8. I guess we also need some support in YCP... Jiri? #12: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 15:19:11) Thomas/Stefan: which message does the applet show? I think we should try to show the same one in YaST and zypper. (BTW, zypper should be adapted as well -> Jano) #13: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 17:20:24) (reply to #12) kupdateapplet shows "Please reboot your system as soon as possible." or "Please relogin into your system as soon as possible.". If PackageKit provides details, these details are shown too. Please let me know if you prefer other strings. #14: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 09:36:44) (reply to #13) Thanks. So I'm going to use this one "At least one of the updates installed requires restart of the session. Relogin into your system as soon as possible." I removed the "Please" intentionally, as such wording should not be used (I assume it can be found is the text style guide) and added kind of explanation sentence (similar is used by YaST in similar situations). + #15: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 11:16:33) + (reply to #14) + I've removed the "please", too. Thanks for your hint. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=304889

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[openFate 304889] needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Feature changed by: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> Feature #304889, revision 21 Title: needs_relogin/needs_reboot as a generic flag openSUSE-11.1: Candidate Priority Requester: Neutral Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are situations, where relogin or reboot are needed to activate update: * package updates * proxy settings Now this situation is not done in a consistent way (silently ignoring problem, note in help, abuse of License entry, pop-up...). Providing a common way for setting these flags (via package provides, YaST calls, sysconfig comments) (and maybe comment what will happen ignoring it) would help in user experience (user is notified about need of relogin/reboot in a consistent way and only once) and administration (automatic relogin or reboot during maintenance window). Discussion: #1: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2008-06-26 14:15:12) needs_reboot is properly handled by our tools. needs_relogin does not exist. #2: Jiri Srain <jsrain(a)novell.com> (2008-07-07 10:46:59) (reply to #1) We handle reboot only for package management not for anything else (the question is whether it is relevant somewhere else), thus we will need to have a more generic solution. Martin, would you, please, have a look and suggest a generic handler? #3: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec(a)novell.com> (2008-07-09 15:26:16) needs_relogin would be useful in these situations: * New package, which provides file in /etc/profile.d was installed (or /etc/profile.d was singnificantly modified by the update). Example: ladspa * Packages, that cause that /etc/profile will evaluate environment. Example: Install any KDE application in GNOME only system. /opt/kde3 is not in PATH until next login * Patches, that affect login related programs. Example: security update of ssh-agent or gnome-keyring * YaST settings, that cause environment variable changes. Example: System proxy settings #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:14) Stefan, how is restart and reboot currently handled in packagekit, what would we need for relogin? #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-07 22:06:58) (note, ZYpp parts are already done, applications missing ) #6: Stefan Haas <shaas(a)novell.com> (2008-08-08 09:55:52) PackageKit has three different types for reboot/restart: -Restart System -Restart Application -Restart Session #7: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:11) Stefan Haas will adapt code from PackageKit to support this flag. #8: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:25:57) Thomas, does the KDE applet handle the relogin needed flag from PackageKit? #10: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-13 14:27:08) (reply to #8) kde4-kupdateapplet listens to PackageKit's restart signal since version 0.8.4. #9: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> (2008-08-11 17:26:53) Ladislav, is are the current flags in YaST handled in pkg-bindings? #11: Ladislav Slezak <lslezak(a)novell.com> (2008-08-20 12:16:02) (reply to #9) I just have committed the support for Patch::reloginSuggested() flag in yast SVN. It will be in yast2-pkg-bindings-2.17.8. I guess we also need some support in YCP... Jiri? #12: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 15:19:11) Thomas/Stefan: which message does the applet show? I think we should try to show the same one in YaST and zypper. (BTW, zypper should be adapted as well -> Jano) #13: Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher(a)novell.com> (2008-08-21 17:20:24) (reply to #12) kupdateapplet shows "Please reboot your system as soon as possible." or "Please relogin into your system as soon as possible.". If PackageKit provides details, these details are shown too. Please let me know if you prefer other strings. + #14: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-22 09:36:44) (reply + to #13) + Thanks. + So I'm going to use this one "At least one of the updates installed + requires restart of the session. Relogin into your system as soon as + possible." + I removed the "Please" intentionally, as such wording should not be + used (I assume it can be found is the text style guide) and added kind + of explanation sentence (similar is used by YaST in similar + situations). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=304889

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[openFate 302047] Integrated package searching for YaST and build service
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Feature changed by: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> Feature #302047, revision 29 Title: Integrated package searching for YaST and build service openSUSE-10.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> reject date: 2007-10-05 14:30:28 reject reason: still open partly - postpone the rest. Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.0: Rejected by Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> reject date: 2008-06-10 14:01:45 reject reason: not done for 11.0 Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: You perhaps remember the hacks Benjamin did to support "click and install" packages (similar to Click'n run) [1] Benjamin has another article in his blog that is worth to read. He has been providing a wepage to search packages from repositories like packman and build service. Now he presents an architecture to desentralize the system, using web services an indexers, and he shows working prototypes of YaST modules for searching, and others like web and irc-bot clients http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/package_search_developments/ I hope we can provide a strategy and roadmap to integrate these cool ideas and _code_. - [1]: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/next_generation_package/ + [1]: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/next_generation_package/ Discussion: #1: Juergen Weigert <jw(a)novell.com> (2007-05-03 15:29:13) see also 300898 For 10.3 the installer should be able to make use of an external list of repositories. I suggest to host such a list at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ together with the search engine, which is already there. #3: Klaas Freitag <freitag(a)novell.com> (2007-07-12 10:46:54) Implementation on openSUSE BS already started, Adrian knows the details. #4: Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)novell.com> (2007-07-12 11:30:04) We work on two approaches atm: * YaST will support (thanks to mvidner) additional repository offers during installation. The list gets hosted on our servers, the open question is how to maintain this list. * The build service End-User interface will offer .ymp files based on pattern submissions for easy installation. #5: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2007-07-30 20:13:09) (reply to #4) Adrian, please, drive this. The feature for YaST should be done now (let me know if anything is missing). #6: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> (2007-11-22 11:26:30) This sounds like very useful. And it might be possible the community (in this case Benji) helps implementing this. #7: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> (2008-06-06 10:56:28) Apparently not done - please reject and postpone for 11.1. #8: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> (2008-06-10 14:02:08) PM-Priority for product openSUSE-11.0 downgraded from mandatory to important: not done for 11.0 - PM accepts reality ;-) #9: Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)novell.com> (2008-06-18 17:08:16) This is something what we should bind to the new upcomming software portal. The software portal will be the End-User interface for searcing and installing software and replace http://software.opensuse.org/search . However it is still in development and not yet set up. Therefore I am unsure if this can happen in time for 11.1. On the other side, the 1-click-installation and integration into the web interface is done since quite some time. The user can use the cool technologies from Benjamin since 10.3. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=302047

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