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Andrei Dziahel

2 Jan 2018 2 Jan '18

09:45

Hi Stefan, Dominique & all, The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v..., do you mind applying it? Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case. Thank you in advance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Daniele

2 Jan 2 Jan

12:47

New subject: [opensuse-factory] New Tumbleweed snapshot 20171231 released!

Il 02/01/2018 10:45, Andrei Dziahel ha scritto:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v..., do you mind applying it?

Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

Thank you in advance.

IMHO, it should be tested. Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Oliver Kurz

16:01

New subject: [opensuse-factory] New Tumbleweed snapshot 20171231 released!

On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:45:32 CET Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v 384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it?

Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

In case you want to see the current test overview of openSUSE Tumbleweed on openqa.opensuse.org you can take a look into https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/overview? distri=opensuse&groupid=1&version=Tumbleweed and http://github.com/os-autoinst/os-autoinst-distri-opensuse/ for the test code. I see no problem in coming up with an openQA test to try this out. Of course testing that the drivers actually work would be more tricky. Also the main Tumbleweed tests should test systems which are under full control by openSUSE contributions. Adding content from nvidia which is not under control should not be done in a test for Tumbleweed snapshot acceptance but it should be possible to have this test still on openqa.opensuse.org in another job group. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

3 Jan 3 Jan

02:07

New subject: [opensuse-factory] New Tumbleweed snapshot 20171231 released!

On 02/01/18 20:45, Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v..., do you mind applying it?

Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

Thank you in advance.

Read the thread in this list, "[opensuse-factory] Nvidia driver 384.98 + latest kernel 4.14.9-1 in TW", which I started on 27 December. BC -- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Andrei Dziahel

10:13

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Why would I do that? I'm not using vanilla installer since tumbleweed RPMs were released. BTW, thanks to Stefan Dirsch for applying the patch to https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11:Drivers:Video/nvidia-gfxG04 2018-01-03 5:07 GMT+03:00 Basil Chupin :

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On 02/01/18 20:45, Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v..., do you mind applying it?

Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

Thank you in advance.

Read the thread in this list, "[opensuse-factory] Nvidia driver 384.98 + latest kernel 4.14.9-1 in TW", which I started on 27 December.

BC

-- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down.

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Markus Koßmann

16:18

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Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018, 12:45:32 schrieb Andrei Dziahel:

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The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v 384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it? FYI: 4.14.11 will break NVIDIA drivers again in another way. With the integration of the KPTI patchset it introduces a GPL license problem. Details see http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=2180 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

16:46

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* Markus Koßmann [01-03-18 11:20]:

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Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018, 12:45:32 schrieb Andrei Dziahel:

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The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v 384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it? FYI: 4.14.11 will break NVIDIA drivers again in another way. With the integration of the KPTI patchset it introduces a GPL license problem. Details see http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=2180

jftr, installed 4.14.9-5 this am and NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-387.34.run installed just fine. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

16:55

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* Patrick Shanahan [01-03-18 11:47]:

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* Markus Koßmann [01-03-18 11:20]:

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Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018, 12:45:32 schrieb Andrei Dziahel:

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The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v 384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it? FYI: 4.14.11 will break NVIDIA drivers again in another way. With the integration of the KPTI patchset it introduces a GPL license problem. Details see http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=2180

jftr, installed 4.14.9-5 this am and NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-387.34.run installed just fine.

and indeed my record may not be worth much, had not yet rebooted. rebooting that system atm. and I can not correctly confirm that the nv driver did install and works. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Markus Koßmann

17:43

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* Patrick Shanahan [01-03-18 11:47]:

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* Markus Koßmann [01-03-18 11:20]:

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Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018, 12:45:32 schrieb Andrei Dziahel:

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The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compi ling-v 384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it?

FYI: 4.14.11 will break NVIDIA drivers again in another way. With the integration of the KPTI patchset it introduces a GPL license problem. Details see http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=2180

jftr, installed 4.14.9-5 this am and NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-387.34.run installed just fine.

and indeed my record may not be worth much, had not yet rebooted.

rebooting that system atm.

and I can not correctly confirm that the nv driver did install and works. Where did you get 387.34 ? It's anot announced yet on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/99/unix-graphics-announcements-and-... 387.34 will probably work with 4.14.9 and 4.14.10. But the problem with 4.14.11 has to be fixed by the kernel devs. Only they have the right to change

Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2018, 11:55:48 schrieb Patrick Shanahan: the license of that symbol in an official patch. Of course you can change the license in a kernel used only by you. But you don't have the right to distribute that kernel then. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

19:40

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* Markus Koßmann [01-03-18 12:44]:

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Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2018, 11:55:48 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* Patrick Shanahan [01-03-18 11:47]:

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* Markus Koßmann [01-03-18 11:20]:

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Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2018, 12:45:32 schrieb Andrei Dziahel:

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The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compi ling-v 384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it?

FYI: 4.14.11 will break NVIDIA drivers again in another way. With the integration of the KPTI patchset it introduces a GPL license problem. Details see http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=2180

jftr, installed 4.14.9-5 this am and NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-387.34.run installed just fine.

and indeed my record may not be worth much, had not yet rebooted.

rebooting that system atm.

and I can not correctly confirm that the nv driver did install and works. Where did you get 387.34 ? It's anot announced yet on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/99/unix-graphics-announcements-and-...

had it and using it since 21 NOV 2017 http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/387.34/

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387.34 will probably work with 4.14.9 and 4.14.10. But the problem with 4.14.11 has to be fixed by the kernel devs. Only they have the right to change the license of that symbol in an official patch. Of course you can change the license in a kernel used only by you. But you don't have the right to distribute that kernel then.

don't know about changing license. I just apply the NV*.run as I have for *many* years. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Stefan Dirsch

8 Jan 8 Jan

14:03

New subject: [opensuse-factory] New Tumbleweed snapshot 20171231 released!

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:45:32PM +0300, Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling-v..., do you mind applying it?

Thanks. It's now being applied.

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Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

I'm not aware of such an openQA test. Do we run on openQA on real hardware with NVIDIA card meanwhile? There is no VM with NVIDIA GPU emulation available. Thanks, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany --------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Oliver Kurz

16:02

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On Monday, 8 January 2018 15:03:33 CET Stefan Dirsch wrote:

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:45:32PM +0300, Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling -v384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it?

Thanks. It's now being applied.

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Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

I'm not aware of such an openQA test. Do we run on openQA on real hardware with NVIDIA card meanwhile? There is no VM with NVIDIA GPU emulation available.

No, see https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00026.html Also as I learned the NVIDIA license is only for personal use and therefore not making it easy for us to let openQA test it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink

17:27

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Op maandag 8 januari 2018 17:02:13 CET schreef Oliver Kurz:

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On Monday, 8 January 2018 15:03:33 CET Stefan Dirsch wrote:

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:45:32PM +0300, Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compili ng -v384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it?

Thanks. It's now being applied.

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Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

I'm not aware of such an openQA test. Do we run on openQA on real hardware with NVIDIA card meanwhile? There is no VM with NVIDIA GPU emulation available.

No, see https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00026.html

Also as I learned the NVIDIA license is only for personal use and therefore not making it easy for us to let openQA test it.

It would mean that *we* release the nvidia packages as official openSUSE distro packages ...... We legally can't AFAIK. And, for me personally that would break the FOSS principles. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Andrei Dziahel

23 Mar 23 Mar

06:34

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Hi all, sorry for necroposting. I think there is still left something to do. It could be asking NVIDIA for license exception and setting up an NVIDIA-based VM/rig; or offering them the help setting up an openQA instance for them, etc., etc. The thing is it cannot be done by outsiders like me and fellow openSUSE users, it should be initiated by SUSE representatives, in order to have a slightest chance to succeed. On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Oliver Kurz wrote:

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On Monday, 8 January 2018 15:03:33 CET Stefan Dirsch wrote:

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:45:32PM +0300, Andrei Dziahel wrote:

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Hi Stefan, Dominique & all,

The recent kernel v4.14.9 release breaks NVIDIA driver. There's a patch available on https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1028016/linux/patch-for-compiling -v384-98-modules-with-linux-v4-14-9-/, do you mind applying it?

Thanks. It's now being applied.

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Going further, would be the openQA test that tries to install NVIDIA proprietary driver be ever accepted to general test suite? Or is there an OBS project with "working-with-nvidia" kernel packages? Sure, these suggestions are off top of the head, probably there is a better way to prevent "nvidia driver doesn't compile for 3 snapshots in a row, older kernels were just purged by purge-kernels so X doesn't run at all" case.

I'm not aware of such an openQA test. Do we run on openQA on real hardware with NVIDIA card meanwhile? There is no VM with NVIDIA GPU emulation available.

No, see https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00026.html

Also as I learned the NVIDIA license is only for personal use and therefore not making it easy for us to let openQA test it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

-- Regards, Andrei Dziahel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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