[opensuse-factory] Listing major new features in Factory
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory. I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE. I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on. Thanks Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Thanks Andreas --
Is there a link we can look at? This will be very helpful for events we market at in the coming months to tease the world about what to expect in 12.2. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, February 08, 2012 22:56:59 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Thanks Andreas
Is there a link we can look at? This will be very helpful for events we market at in the coming months to tease the world about what to expect in 12.2.
OOps, announcing the link was the goal of this email and I failed miserably ;-( Use this one: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/12 19:52, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday, February 08, 2012 22:56:59 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Thanks Andreas Is there a link we can look at? This will be very helpful for events we market at in the coming months to tease the world about what to expect in 12.2. OOps, announcing the link was the goal of this email and I failed miserably ;-(
Use this one: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features
Thanks for this link. Lovely. But. What do any of these MEAN? "GCC 4.7". So what? "Plymouth". So what? These are supposed to stir the audience into a frenzy and make them froth at the mouth to get a copy of openSUSE 12.2? I doubt it. Maybe to a programmer or a geek. But it hasn't even caused a teeny-weeny flutter in my heart beat. Perhaps if the terms were explained? BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:14:32 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 09/02/12 19:52, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday, February 08, 2012 22:56:59 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Thanks Andreas
Is there a link we can look at? This will be very helpful for events we market at in the coming months to tease the world about what to expect in 12.2.
OOps, announcing the link was the goal of this email and I failed miserably ;-(
Use this one: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features
Thanks for this link. Lovely.
But. What do any of these MEAN?
"GCC 4.7". So what?
"Plymouth". So what?
These are supposed to stir the audience into a frenzy and make them froth at the mouth to get a copy of openSUSE 12.2?
These pages are the input for marketing - not the outcome. The page is intented for those working on Factory - and it's a start...
I doubt it.
Maybe to a programmer or a geek.
For those packagers and developers taking care of factory.
But it hasn't even caused a teeny-weeny flutter in my heart beat.
Perhaps if the terms were explained?
I hope some more explanation to be added - but not for copy and paste into marketing, that's a different step, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/12 20:21, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:14:32 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 09/02/12 19:52, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday, February 08, 2012 22:56:59 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Thanks Andreas Is there a link we can look at? This will be very helpful for events we market at in the coming months to tease the world about what to expect in 12.2. OOps, announcing the link was the goal of this email and I failed miserably ;-(
Use this one: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features Thanks for this link. Lovely.
But. What do any of these MEAN?
"GCC 4.7". So what?
"Plymouth". So what?
These are supposed to stir the audience into a frenzy and make them froth at the mouth to get a copy of openSUSE 12.2? These pages are the input for marketing - not the outcome. The page is intented for those working on Factory - and it's a start...
I doubt it.
Maybe to a programmer or a geek. For those packagers and developers taking care of factory.
But it hasn't even caused a teeny-weeny flutter in my heart beat.
Perhaps if the terms were explained? I hope some more explanation to be added - but not for copy and paste into marketing, that's a different step,
Andreas
Almost all the marketing people that I have known are neither programmers nor geeks and therefore require to be told what the heck they are trying to push onto the great unwashed :-) . Is the openSUSE marketing team different? :-) BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:38:54 Basil Chupin wrote:
Almost all the marketing people that I have known are neither programmers nor geeks and therefore require to be told what the heck they are trying to push onto the great unwashed :-) .
Is the openSUSE marketing team different? :-)
We normally do a two step process: 1. collect what's new 2. explain the marketing team what it means ;) I'm concentrating on step 1 - and want to make it easy for geeks to contribute. ;) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 12:07 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:38:54 Basil Chupin wrote:
Almost all the marketing people that I have known are neither programmers nor geeks and therefore require to be told what the heck they are trying to push onto the great unwashed :-) .
Is the openSUSE marketing team different? :-)
We normally do a two step process: 1. collect what's new 2. explain the marketing team what it means ;)
I'm concentrating on step 1 - and want to make it easy for geeks to contribute. ;)
Andreas --
+1 It's hard enough as it is to extract information to begin with. Forcing them to take additional steps to fully explain everything discourages them from inputting basic information to begin with. We, on the openSUSE Marketing Team, are fully capable of researching what each item is. And in fact, we've done that well with the release notes press releases we churn out each release. Let's not screw that up by concentrating every step into one step or we'll end up getting nothing at all. Bryen M Yunashko (member of openSUSE Marketing Team) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/12 22:07, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > On Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:38:54 Basil Chupin wrote: >> Almost all the marketing people that I have known are neither >> programmers nor geeks and therefore require to be told what the heck >> they are trying to push onto the great unwashed :-) . >> >> Is the openSUSE marketing team different? :-) > We normally do a two step process: > 1. collect what's new > 2. explain the marketing team what it means ;) Ah, this step #2 is the really tricky bit.... :-D . > I'm concentrating on step 1 - and want to make it easy for geeks to > contribute. ;) > > Andreas BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le 10/02/2012 13:27, Basil Chupin a écrit :
1. collect what's new 2. explain the marketing team what it means ;)
Ah, this step #2 is the really tricky bit.... :-D .
not really, too often the step one lacks and the marketting team learn after the release what is important in it... jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/12 23:38, jdd wrote:
Le 10/02/2012 13:27, Basil Chupin a �crit :
1. collect what's new 2. explain the marketing team what it means ;)
Ah, this step #2 is the really tricky bit.... :-D .
not really, too often the step one lacks and the marketting team learn after the release what is important in it...
Very true of course, so everybody give Andreas all the info he is asking for. BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/09/2012 10:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 09/02/12 20:21, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:14:32 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 09/02/12 19:52, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday, February 08, 2012 22:56:59 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:02 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Thanks Andreas Is there a link we can look at? This will be very helpful for events we market at in the coming months to tease the world about what to expect in 12.2. OOps, announcing the link was the goal of this email and I failed miserably ;-(
Use this one: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features Thanks for this link. Lovely.
But. What do any of these MEAN?
"GCC 4.7". So what?
"Plymouth". So what?
These are supposed to stir the audience into a frenzy and make them froth at the mouth to get a copy of openSUSE 12.2? These pages are the input for marketing - not the outcome. The page is intented for those working on Factory - and it's a start...
I doubt it.
Maybe to a programmer or a geek. For those packagers and developers taking care of factory.
But it hasn't even caused a teeny-weeny flutter in my heart beat.
Perhaps if the terms were explained? I hope some more explanation to be added - but not for copy and paste into marketing, that's a different step,
Andreas
Almost all the marketing people that I have known are neither programmers nor geeks and therefore require to be told what the heck they are trying to push onto the great unwashed :-) .
Is the openSUSE marketing team different? :-)
And yeap
BC
Keep the noise low, is one way to improve the process of information -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
Hmm, I know that openSUSE has always been lagging significantly there, we probably have nobody really actively on that project, but any plans about X.org? We have 1.10.x in Factory, I heard that 1.11 came out last summer, and there might be interesting stuff being worked on in XInput like multitouch support etc. but not sure if that's released yet. Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/02/09 14:43 (GMT+0100) Robert Kaiser composed:
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
Hmm, I know that openSUSE has always been lagging significantly there, we probably have nobody really actively on that project, but any plans about X.org? We have 1.10.x in Factory, I heard that 1.11 came out last summer, and there might be interesting stuff being worked on in XInput like multitouch support etc. but not sure if that's released yet.
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On Thursday, February 09, 2012 14:43:34 Robert Kaiser wrote:
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
Hmm, I know that openSUSE has always been lagging significantly there, we probably have nobody really actively on that project, but any plans about X.org? We have 1.10.x in Factory, I heard that 1.11 came out last summer, and there might be interesting stuff being worked on in XInput like multitouch support etc. but not sure if that's released yet.
X.org will be updated for sure. Xorg server 1.12 (with Multitouch as major feature) should come out at the end of March (they're in RC phase right now). Mesa is updated already to the current 8.0.1 version. I've updated the page regarding both items, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 14:43:34 Robert Kaiser wrote:
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
Hmm, I know that openSUSE has always been lagging significantly there, we probably have nobody really actively on that project, but any plans about X.org? We have 1.10.x in Factory, I heard that 1.11 came out last summer, and there might be interesting stuff being worked on in XInput like multitouch support etc. but not sure if that's released yet.
X.org will be updated for sure. Xorg server 1.12 (with Multitouch as major feature) should come out at the end of March (they're in RC phase right now).
That sounds good to me. In that case, shouldn't the RC stuff be in X11:Xorg at least, maybe even in Factory, so that we're testing it well enough before we ship the final release in 12.2? I'm somewhat worried because we still have server 1.10 in both X11:Xorg and Factory, and as far as I remember we've always been somewhat late with adopting new X releases (I'm not really sure about what the current versions of other parts than server would be, but I guess we lag on all X stuff similarly - I've seen that we seem to keep up well with Mesa, though). Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 15:00:38 Robert Kaiser wrote:
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
On Thursday, February 09, 2012 14:43:34 Robert Kaiser wrote:
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
Hmm, I know that openSUSE has always been lagging significantly there, we probably have nobody really actively on that project, but any plans about X.org? We have 1.10.x in Factory, I heard that 1.11 came out last summer, and there might be interesting stuff being worked on in XInput like multitouch support etc. but not sure if that's released yet.
X.org will be updated for sure. Xorg server 1.12 (with Multitouch as major feature) should come out at the end of March (they're in RC phase right now).
That sounds good to me. In that case, shouldn't the RC stuff be in X11:Xorg at least, maybe even in Factory, so that we're testing it well enough before we ship the final release in 12.2?
Somebody needs to do this work - and the X guys at SUSE are busy right now but will get to this. Any help here is welcome... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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On 02/08/2012 10:02 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've started to summarize what kind of major changes are beeing worked on in factory.
I know that some of these are also in openFATE but wanted to point out the major ones easily - feel free to link to openFATE.
I would appreciate if you could help me adding to the list so that we know what's going on.
Its possibly worth noting that our Chromium build now enables NativeClient (NaCl) support, see http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/ for details. Regards. -- İsmail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Andreas Jaeger -
Basil Chupin -
Bruno Friedmann -
Bryen M Yunashko -
Felix Miata -
Ismail Dönmez -
jdd -
Ralf Lang -
Robert Kaiser