[opensuse-factory] why are Leap release notes in Tumbleweed ??
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository? And why are they installed with zypper --no-recommends ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
LOL! I knew this could happen. :-))
And why are they installed with zypper --no-recommends ???
I guess they are a mandatory package. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (openSUSE Leap 42.1, test at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-) It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs. There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes. Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW. ROTFL! You made my day. ;-) (don't tell them! ;-) ) -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (openSUSE Leap 42.1, test at Minas-Anor) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op donderdag 12 november 2015 02:55:04 schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
Well, it's on the list. Another personal attack.
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
Is that the best description of how things took place? All translators objected but "they" ( I know Richard is a tall guy, but "they"? ) forced Weblate on you all?
(don't tell them! ;-) )
He doesn't have to, you did so yourself. Please Carlos, stop. You know there's no contribution in these personal crusades. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht Official openSUSE Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Dne Čt 12. listopadu 2015 02:55:04, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes.
Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW.
ROTFL! You made my day. ;-)
Carlos, I have to ask just one thing. Why the crap are you even contributing to the project if you hate everything we do this much. Tom
On 12 November 2015 at 02:55, Carlos E. R.
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
(don't tell them! ;-) )
Ahem....
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes.
Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW.
ROTFL! You made my day. ;-)
And you would have made mine, if you hadn't included an incorrect assertion as to why this happened Contrary to popular belief, translations are not the centre of the universe. Packages going into Leap have to either come from Tumbleweed or SLE 12 A 'third path' for packages which do not make sense in neither Tumbleweed nor Leap is currently trickier than it should be (done for GNOME:3.16 and branding but not much else) Therefore, was easier to do the release notes in TW and push them to Leap Now Leap's out, we can quickly fix that, who wants to write some TW Release Notes? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-11-12 09:27, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2015 02:55:04 schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
Well, it's on the list. Another personal attack.
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
Is that the best description of how things took place? All translators objected but "they" ( I know Richard is a tall guy, but "they"? ) forced Weblate on you all?
(don't tell them! ;-) )
He doesn't have to, you did so yourself.
Please Carlos, stop. You know there's no contribution in these personal crusades.
I agree, this kind of style is not appropriate - neither in public nor in private, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:55:04AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes.
Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW.
ROTFL! You made my day. ;-)
(don't tell them! ;-) )
Are we suppose to filter these mails on client side or server side? Best regards, Tomas Cech -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 12 of November 2015 10:22:30 Tomáš Čech wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:55:04AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes.
Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW.
ROTFL! You made my day. ;-)
(don't tell them! ;-) )
Are we suppose to filter these mails on client side or server side?
I would strongly prefer filtering on side of list of openSUSE members. Cheers Martin
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:22:30AM +0100, Tomáš Čech wrote: [ <8 ]
Are we suppose to filter these mails on client side or server side?
On the server please and for opensuse-factory and opensuse. Unfortunately this person isn't willing to progress. After multiple requests on the list and via private mail. I don't like to ban people but sometimes it is required for the heathy of the environment. Maybe a break of one month is enough time to reconsider the own habit. Cheers, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
On Thursday 12 of November 2015 10:22:30 Tomáš Čech wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:55:04AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes.
Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW.
ROTFL! You made my day. ;-)
(don't tell them! ;-) )
Are we suppose to filter these mails on client side or server side? I would strongly prefer filtering on side of list of openSUSE members.
Cheers Martin
On 2015-11-12 02:55, Carlos E. R. wrote:
(don't tell them! ;-) )
I apologize. I had one vodka and it had effects. Nevertheless, I humbly believe what I said, Leap should have its own branch and not contaminate others. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 11/11/2015 08:45 PM, Carlos E. R wrote:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
LOL!
I knew this could happen. :-))
And why are they installed with zypper --no-recommends ???
I guess they are a mandatory package.
I had a similar experience this morning with TW but in my case release-notes-openSUSE-13.2 was installed. :-) -- Ken linux since 1994 S.u.S.E./openSUSE since 1996 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-11-12 14:46, Ken Schneider wrote:
I had a similar experience this morning with TW but in my case release-notes-openSUSE-13.2 was installed. :-)
Yes, that's the default. The notes have probably been reverted. IMO, they should be empty. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 12/11/15 12:55, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
There is no branch for Leap, so the "trunk" branch was used for files that absolutely must be translated, such as the release notes.
Now, they will say that TW does not need release notes, and try do a hack so that they are not published for TW.
ROTFL! You made my day. ;-)
(don't tell them! ;-) )
And you made MY day! Thank you! :-D BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.3.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/15 19:27, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2015 02:55:04 schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository? I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-) Well, it's on the list. Another personal attack.
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs. Is that the best description of how things took place? All translators objected but "they" ( I know Richard is a tall guy, but "they"? ) forced Weblate on you all?
(don't tell them! ;-) ) He doesn't have to, you did so yourself.
Please Carlos, stop. You know there's no contribution in these personal crusades.
I do not see any personal attacks. You appear to be preoccupied with seeing "personal attacks" and will probably see a "personal attack" if shown an inkblot picture. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.3.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/15 20:10, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On 2015-11-12 09:27, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op donderdag 12 november 2015 02:55:04 schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 11/12/2015 02:28 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Why are release-notes-openSUSE-42.1.20151028-1.2.noarch in openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS repository?
I'll try to explain, off-list, lest I cross the irate Richard path again ;-)
Well, it's on the list. Another personal attack.
It happened because of the refusal by "them" to have separate translation branches for Leap and "trunk", aka "tumbleweed", and because "they" implemented Weblate on our backs.
Is that the best description of how things took place? All translators objected but "they" ( I know Richard is a tall guy, but "they"? ) forced Weblate on you all?
(don't tell them! ;-) )
He doesn't have to, you did so yourself.
Please Carlos, stop. You know there's no contribution in these personal crusades.
I agree, this kind of style is not appropriate - neither in public nor in private,
Andreas
Well, well, well, long time no hear, Andreas :-) . Nice to hear from you. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.3.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Andreas Jaeger -
Basil Chupin -
Carlos E. R -
Carlos E. R. -
Ken Schneider -
Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink -
Lars Müller -
Martin Pluskal -
Martin Pluskal -
Patrick Shanahan -
Richard Brown -
Tomáš Chvátal -
Tomáš Čech