On 05/11/2010 09:28 AM, C wrote:

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 15:39, Donn Washburn wrote:

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Enlight of all of the xorg xorg.conf changes. Or the lack of needing a xorg.conf file is there another config file planned for the latest nouveau or xorg so that NVidia's file.run can be used. It is needed to enable 3D and speed up the display so that programs like Flightgear can work.

You don't need anything special. The nVidia installer is "smart" enough to create the basic xorg.conf needed (via nvidia-xconfig) so the nVidia driver is used. Why would you need any other conf file at this point? Or have I missed something?

C.

Yes NV's file is start if you have the correct naming for the kernel. And at the end of it's .run script it tries to put "Driver nvidia" in the xorg.conf file. If it is not there it fails to add it. If xorg is so smart then modprobe is not smart enough to figure out that need to be installed first. /usr/sbin/hwinfo -gfxcard results Driver Info #0: Driver Status: nvidiafb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidiafb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: nouveau is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nouveau" Driver Info #2: Driver Status: nvidia is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidia" Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #26 (PCI bridge) -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2010 09:04 AM, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

the X-Server is smart enough to try the various nVidia drivers in order: nvidia (binary blob) -> nouveau -> nv

The first one to work will be used... and all this logic without an xorg.conf file...

Dominique

This maybe true but there are several settings that still require a xorg. Broken EDID's and multi-gpu's spring to mind as well as items like compositing. Dean -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 05/11/2010 08:36 PM, Donn Washburn wrote:

On 05/11/2010 11:24 AM, Dean Hilkewich wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 09:04 AM, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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the X-Server is smart enough to try the various nVidia drivers in order: nvidia (binary blob) -> nouveau -> nv

The first one to work will be used... and all this logic without an xorg.conf file...

Dominique

This maybe true but there are several settings that still require a xorg. Broken EDID's and multi-gpu's spring to mind as well as items like compositing.

Dean

I sure hope you are correct. However, where is the NV bootsplash. This is a GeForce 7600 GS the last AGP version made

hwinfo --gfxcard show this is lacking

Driver Info #0: Driver Status: nvidiafb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidiafb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: nouveau is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nouveau" Driver Info #2: Driver Status: nvidia is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidia"

This implies another openSuSE guess/setup problem.

I loaded all of them and will give this a try

Have you tried System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server settings yet? Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 05/13/2010 04:20 AM, Dave Plater wrote:

On 05/11/2010 08:36 PM, Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 11:24 AM, Dean Hilkewich wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 09:04 AM, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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the X-Server is smart enough to try the various nVidia drivers in order: nvidia (binary blob) -> nouveau -> nv

The first one to work will be used... and all this logic without an xorg.conf file...

Dominique

This maybe true but there are several settings that still require a xorg. Broken EDID's and multi-gpu's spring to mind as well as items like compositing.

Dean

I sure hope you are correct. However, where is the NV bootsplash. This is a GeForce 7600 GS the last AGP version made

hwinfo --gfxcard show this is lacking

Driver Info #0: Driver Status: nvidiafb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidiafb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: nouveau is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nouveau" Driver Info #2: Driver Status: nvidia is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidia"

This implies another openSuSE guess/setup problem.

I loaded all of them and will give this a try

Have you tried System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server settings yet? Dave P

I have it working now but where is (Yast2 or a /etc/sysconfig) " System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server" -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb@comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb@arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 14/05/10 11:05, Dave Plater wrote:

On 05/14/2010 06:08 AM, Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 05/13/2010 04:20 AM, Dave Plater wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 08:36 PM, Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 11:24 AM, Dean Hilkewich wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 09:04 AM, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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the X-Server is smart enough to try the various nVidia drivers in order: nvidia (binary blob) -> nouveau -> nv

The first one to work will be used... and all this logic without an xorg.conf file...

Dominique

This maybe true but there are several settings that still require a xorg. Broken EDID's and multi-gpu's spring to mind as well as items like compositing.

Dean

I sure hope you are correct. However, where is the NV bootsplash. This is a GeForce 7600 GS the last AGP version made

hwinfo --gfxcard show this is lacking

Driver Info #0: Driver Status: nvidiafb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidiafb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: nouveau is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nouveau" Driver Info #2: Driver Status: nvidia is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidia"

This implies another openSuSE guess/setup problem.

I loaded all of them and will give this a try

Have you tried System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server settings yet? Dave P

I have it working now but where is (Yast2 or a /etc/sysconfig)

" System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server" That's in the application launcher menu, I don't know the gnome menu equivalent. It's nvidia's own configuration gui. Regards Dave P

Are you thinking of "nvdock"? Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 14/05/10 13:53, Dave Plater wrote:

On 05/14/2010 02:08 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 14/05/10 11:05, Dave Plater wrote:

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On 05/14/2010 06:08 AM, Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 05/13/2010 04:20 AM, Dave Plater wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 08:36 PM, Donn Washburn wrote:

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On 05/11/2010 11:24 AM, Dean Hilkewich wrote:

> On 05/11/2010 09:04 AM, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > >> the X-Server is smart enough to try the various nVidia drivers in >> order: >> nvidia (binary blob) -> nouveau -> nv >> >> The first one to work will be used... and all this logic without an >> xorg.conf file... >> >> Dominique >> >> >> >> > This maybe true but there are several settings that still require a > xorg. Broken EDID's and multi-gpu's spring to mind as well as items > like compositing. > > Dean > > > > I sure hope you are correct. However, where is the NV bootsplash. This is a GeForce 7600 GS the last AGP version made

hwinfo --gfxcard show this is lacking

Driver Info #0: Driver Status: nvidiafb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidiafb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: nouveau is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nouveau" Driver Info #2: Driver Status: nvidia is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidia"

This implies another openSuSE guess/setup problem.

I loaded all of them and will give this a try

Have you tried System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server settings yet? Dave P

I have it working now but where is (Yast2 or a /etc/sysconfig)

" System - Configuration - Configure NVIDIA x server"

That's in the application launcher menu, I don't know the gnome menu equivalent. It's nvidia's own configuration gui. Regards Dave P

Are you thinking of "nvdock"? Regards Sid.

davepl@Arbuthnot:/data/src/osc/home:plater/plasmoid-yawp> cat /usr/share/applications/nvidia-settings.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Encoding=UTF-8 Name=NVIDIA X Server Settings Comment=Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings Exec=/usr/bin/nvidia-settings Icon=/usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/nvidia-settings.png Categories=Application;Settings;

Regards Dave P

Yep, that fires up nvdock. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 14/05/10 14:37, Dave Plater wrote:

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Yep, that fires up nvdock. Regards Sid.

I never knew it by that name, I always thought it was nvidia-settings. Dave P

On checking my installed packages, nvdock was installed way back in 2007, no doubt renamed to nvidia-settings, so that's why I have both. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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On 5/14/2010 at 15:00, Sid Boyce wrote: davepl@Arbuthnot:/data/src/osc/home:plater/plasmoid-yawp> cat /usr/share/applications/nvidia-settings.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Encoding=UTF-8 Name=NVIDIA X Server Settings Comment=Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings Exec=/usr/bin/nvidia-settings Icon=/usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/nvidia-settings.png Categories=Application;Settings;

Regards Dave P

a) feel free to trim replies... most of the stuff is no longer relevant here b) not entirely true: nvdock [0] is(was!) a tray applet never associated with nvidia (it was an opensource project, but apparently abandoned). the confusion just arose as a double click on nvdock launched nvidia-settings. That one is provided by nVidia together with the binary driver. Dominique [0] http://code.google.com/p/bobmajdakjr/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org