[opensuse-factory] Latest flash player is broken
Hi! With the latest version of Adobe flash player 11.2 I have all colors in videos (for example in YouTube) inverted. Once the version reverted to 11.1 the problem disappears. I suggest to consider to include the 11.1 version in openSUSE instead of 11.2. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Ilya Chernykh schrieb:
With the latest version of Adobe flash player 11.2 I have all colors in videos (for example in YouTube) inverted. Once the version reverted to 11.1 the problem disappears.
Known problem with Flash 11.2, hardware acceleration and the binary NVidia driver.
I suggest to consider to include the 11.1 version in openSUSE instead of 11.2.
That would mean knowingly exposing openSUSE users to a growing collection of security risks. Would be better to not provide Flash at all, which I think is also the wrong way to go. That said, disabling hardware acceleration in Flash or using the (openSUSE default!) nouveau driver fixes the problem as well, AFAIK. Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 April 2012 17:51:06 Robert Kaiser wrote:
Ilya Chernykh schrieb:
With the latest version of Adobe flash player 11.2 I have all colors in videos (for example in YouTube) inverted. Once the version reverted to 11.1 the problem disappears.
Known problem with Flash 11.2, hardware acceleration and the binary NVidia driver.
I suggest to consider to include the 11.1 version in openSUSE instead of 11.2. That would mean knowingly exposing openSUSE users to a growing
collection of security risks. Would be better to not provide Flash at all, which I think is also the wrong way to go.
That said, disabling hardware acceleration in Flash or using the (openSUSE default!) nouveau driver fixes the problem as well, AFAIK.
With Nouveau I get a plain greeen screen and frequent crashes so that doesn't solve it at least for me.\ Disabling acceleration does indeed solve the problem, tnx for that pointer :D
Robert Kaiser
Am 25.04.2012 11:50, schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Thursday 19 April 2012 17:51:06 Robert Kaiser wrote:
Ilya Chernykh schrieb:
With the latest version of Adobe flash player 11.2 I have all colors in videos (for example in YouTube) inverted. Once the version reverted to 11.1 the problem disappears.
Known problem with Flash 11.2, hardware acceleration and the binary NVidia driver.
I suggest to consider to include the 11.1 version in openSUSE instead of 11.2. That would mean knowingly exposing openSUSE users to a growing
collection of security risks. Would be better to not provide Flash at all, which I think is also the wrong way to go.
That said, disabling hardware acceleration in Flash or using the (openSUSE default!) nouveau driver fixes the problem as well, AFAIK.
With Nouveau I get a plain greeen screen and frequent crashes so that doesn't solve it at least for me.\
Disabling acceleration does indeed solve the problem, tnx for that pointer :D
Just for the record. I'm wondering if I'm the only one not able to disable hw acceleration because the settings window does not react to any event. I just appears with the webcam setting and does react on mouse events; it doesn't even disappear again. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:45, Ilya Chernykh
With the latest version of Adobe flash player 11.2 I have all colors in videos (for example in YouTube) inverted. Once the version reverted to 11.1 the problem disappears.
I suggest to consider to include the 11.1 version in openSUSE instead of 11.2.
It's a very well known and well documented issue with Flash 11.2 and nVidia drivers. Adobe isn't too interested in fixing it (made apparent by how quickly they close the bug reports on the problem). The workaround is easy... just disable hardware acceleration and everything is fine again. Better to set the h/w acceleration option to off by default with openSUSE12.2 than to include an outdated Flash player. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:33 PM, C
Better to set the h/w acceleration option to off by default with openSUSE12.2 than to include an outdated Flash player.
As noted, the bug doesn't happen with nouveau, which is what 12.2 has as default for nVidia, so people that encounter the bug should definitely make the connection to the binary driver they just installed. Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 April 2012 20:39:12 Claudio Freire wrote:
Better to set the h/w acceleration option to off by default with openSUSE12.2 than to include an outdated Flash player.
As noted, the bug doesn't happen with nouveau, which is what 12.2 has as default for nVidia, so people that encounter the bug should definitely make the connection to the binary driver they just installed.
Many people update the system from previous releases as I do rather than install anew. They will just notice that something that worked well became broken. For me for example it became broken when I installed the new flash plugin from the updates repository. Any connection to nvidia drivers is unevident in this case. But even is such connection is established, switching to noveau is not an option because it has no 3D acceleration which is required by many games and other software.
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
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El 19/04/12 13:42, Ilya Chernykh escribió:
switching to noveau is not an option because it has no 3D acceleration which is required by many games and other software.
Using nouveau will be an option for me when it is able to keep the video card fan silent, otherwise it will only drive me crazy :-D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:39, Claudio Freire
As noted, the bug doesn't happen with nouveau, which is what 12.2 has as default for nVidia, so people that encounter the bug should definitely make the connection to the binary driver they just installed.
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
I don't actually see any performance difference at all (other than the scrambled colors with nVidia) between h/w acceleration on or off on any system I've got (including low end Atom based netbooks with crappy Intel video cards). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:48 PM, C
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
I don't actually see any performance difference at all (other than the scrambled colors with nVidia) between h/w acceleration on or off on any system I've got (including low end Atom based netbooks with crappy Intel video cards).
When the M4 iso comes out, I'll have to test in a few really slow systems I have, where the CPU is immensely underpowered compared to the GPU, and let you know. If indeed there's no significant difference, I guess disabling h/w accel is a good move. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:18:01 +0530, C
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:39, Claudio Freire
wrote: As noted, the bug doesn't happen with nouveau, which is what 12.2 has as default for nVidia, so people that encounter the bug should definitely make the connection to the binary driver they just installed.
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
I don't actually see any performance difference at all (other than the scrambled colors with nVidia) between h/w acceleration on or off on any system I've got (including low end Atom based netbooks with crappy Intel video cards).
neither do i notice any difference, but then i don't play 3D games much, except foobillard, and that rarely. disabling HW acceleration for flash, by right-clicking on the flash thingy, disables it systemwide, for all applications? i thought only for adobe flash, leaving other app.s unaffected. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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disabling HW acceleration for flash, by right-clicking on the flash thingy, disables it systemwide, for all applications? i thought only for adobe flash, leaving other app.s unaffected.
Only for flash. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+QVNEACgkQIvFNjefEBxqtyQCgjeEQzmguoA0pjFirtcQ/j+Z4 9dAAoJBbjHz2nZdSL+j/uf84J2M6XAaa =FHZ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 April 2012 20:39:12 Claudio Freire wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:33 PM, C
wrote: Better to set the h/w acceleration option to off by default with openSUSE12.2 than to include an outdated Flash player.
As noted, the bug doesn't happen with nouveau, which is what 12.2 has as default for nVidia, so people that encounter the bug should definitely make the connection to the binary driver they just installed.
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
This page includes some workarounds for the issue: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177380 One is as follows: === Here's another fix for issues 1 and 2 (it also includes GPU offloading of H.264 decoding): 1) export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 2) Create /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file and put this text into it: Code: EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 === I think this should not affect non-nvidia users. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
El 19/04/12 13:52, Ilya Chernykh escribió:
Here's another fix for issues 1 and 2 (it also includes GPU offloading of H.264 decoding):
1) export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1
2) Create /etc/adobe/mms.cfg file and put this text into it:
Code:
EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
===
I think this should not affect non-nvidia users.
That solved my issues, thanks for the tip :-) export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 --> in .xinitrc btw. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 April 2012 20:39:12 Claudio Freire wrote:
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
UPDATE. It seems the problem with wrong colors may be fixed by just creating a file /etc/adobe/mms.cfg with the content: EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 This does not disable any acceleration but makes the colors correct! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:07, Ilya Chernykh
UPDATE. It seems the problem with wrong colors may be fixed by just creating a file
/etc/adobe/mms.cfg
with the content:
EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
This does not disable any acceleration but makes the colors correct!
Confirmed here... works fine on all testing I've done. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:13 PM, C
creating a file
/etc/adobe/mms.cfg
with the content:
EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
This does not disable any acceleration but makes the colors correct!
Confirmed here... works fine on all testing I've done.
If it works for non-nvidia, it can be made part of the flash package. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
The mms.cfg fix does colors right, but flash is crashing constantly :-(
Currently only disabling hw-accel seems to work right (with
nvidia+"stable" running of flash)
Zitat von Ilya Chernykh
On Thursday 19 April 2012 20:39:12 Claudio Freire wrote:
Killing h/w accel by default would be bad, IMO. It would hurt everyone else, too, not just nVidia users.
UPDATE. It seems the problem with wrong colors may be fixed by just creating a file
/etc/adobe/mms.cfg
with the content:
EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
This does not disable any acceleration but makes the colors correct! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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On Thursday 19 April 2012 21:35:33 0x90 wrote:
The mms.cfg fix does colors right, but flash is crashing constantly :-( Currently only disabling hw-accel seems to work right (with nvidia+"stable" running of flash)
For me it does not crash but does executing export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 fix the crash problem? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:35, 0x90 <0x90@wmailer.net> wrote:
The mms.cfg fix does colors right, but flash is crashing constantly :-( Currently only disabling hw-accel seems to work right (with nvidia+"stable" running of flash)
And.. I'm seeing crashes now using mms.cfg, but only with Firefox... with Chromium it's not crashing (yes, testing Flash content not HTML5). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
@Ilya:
I should have been more precisely, for me the mms.cfg-fix includes the
"export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1". Also I meant it runs unstable, not
that it is not executing.
And no, flash crashes with cromium also..
Zitat von C
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:35, 0x90 <0x90@wmailer.net> wrote:
The mms.cfg fix does colors right, but flash is crashing constantly :-( Currently only disabling hw-accel seems to work right (with nvidia+"stable" running of flash)
And.. I'm seeing crashes now using mms.cfg, but only with Firefox... with Chromium it's not crashing (yes, testing Flash content not HTML5).
C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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On Thursday 19 April 2012 22:05:26 0x90 wrote:
I should have been more precisely, for me the mms.cfg-fix includes the "export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1". Also I meant it runs unstable, not that it is not executing.
What if you remove this line and only leave EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 ? For ne it works stable without export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Unfortunately not for me. Setting VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY or not makes
no difference in crashing behaviour.
- If you leave everything at default, ?only? youtube has this avatar-style.
- If you turn off hw-accel in flash the color is right and flash runs
as stable as usual. Didn't recognize performance loss so far.
- Using mms.cfg fix with or without VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY flash
crashes. Hardly on youtube, but on other sites, strangely (just watch
big movie and pause it, sometimes, but thats unpredictable and not
clearly)
My current workaround: activate http://www.youtube.com/html5 and for
those vids without html5 output disable hw-accel.
Unfortunately I have no good solution at hand. (When I remember how
long it took to fix this stupid flash+twinview+fullscreen bug... the
script forwarding fake window size to flash is now older than 3 years.
With 11.2 is was fixed and introduced promotion to avatar ;) *yay*)
Zitat von Ilya Chernykh
On Thursday 19 April 2012 22:05:26 0x90 wrote:
I should have been more precisely, for me the mms.cfg-fix includes the "export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1". Also I meant it runs unstable, not that it is not executing.
What if you remove this line and only leave EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 ?
For ne it works stable without export VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY=1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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On Friday 20 April 2012 00:02:24 0x90 wrote:
Unfortunately not for me. Setting VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY or not makes no difference in crashing behaviour. - If you leave everything at default, ?only? youtube has this avatar-style. - If you turn off hw-accel in flash the color is right and flash runs as stable as usual. Didn't recognize performance loss so far. - Using mms.cfg fix with or without VDPAU_NVIDIA_NO_OVERLAY flash crashes. Hardly on youtube, but on other sites, strangely (just watch big movie and pause it, sometimes, but thats unpredictable and not clearly)
Anyway I think, good colors+possible crash is better than the current bad colors+possible crash. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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0x90
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Carlos E. R.
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Claudio Freire
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Ilya Chernykh
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Jos Poortvliet
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phanisvara das
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Robert Kaiser
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Wolfgang Rosenauer