Il 28/07/23 13:16, Knurpht-openSUSE ha scritto:

Op vrijdag 28 juli 2023 17:59:18 CEST schreef Leandro Almeida:

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Hello, I wanted to ask openSUSE to add the drivers of my new laptop in the distribution, to get full performance, last longer battery etc I also wanted to suggest to OpenSUSE, to add better general support in hardware acceleration, audio, GPU, av1, vp9, avc, etc Also OpenSUSE adds by default vm.max_map_count 2147483642 (MAX_INT – 5), for proton steam play vulkan to flow better, games with huge maps to flow better, fps increase etc.

And better Steam support from snap packages, official steam too 👍👍😄

Lenovo IdeaPad 3 15ITL6 Intel Core i3 1115g4 (4) 4100GHz Intel Tiger Lake-LP GT2 (UHD Graphics G4) 1920x1080p 60Hz KDE Plasma Wayland PTBR UTF8 ABNT2 with numeric keypad

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

👍👍😄 First: Which drivers? I know this laptop, installed Tumbleweed on it without a single issue or need for 3rd party drivers. And does suspend, hibernate or hybrid-sleep did worked for you?

I have an older Ideapad which is a Z470 CPU with Intel video card (i915) and for me nothing is working anymore due latest kernels! I have been able to upgrade my second boot Windows 10 to Windows 11, despite was not recommended or even apparently not possible and there on M$ everything is working as expected.

Second: given your demands compared to the hardware, IMHO you bought the wrong laptop. Hardware accelleration is not going to make it faster, gaming will definitely be a disappointment. Found this on a reseller site: Advice from our expert: Internet, email & text processing: suitable Watching movies & series: suitable Photo editing: possible, but faster with an i5 processor Video editing: unsuitable, at least an i7 or Ryzen 7 processor Gaming: unsuitable, at least a GTX 1050 video card

-- Marco Calistri Build: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20230731 Kernel: 6.4.4-1-default - XFCE: (4.18.3)

On 01.08.2023 00:01, cagsm wrote:

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 5:59 PM Leandro Almeida wrote:

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Hello, I wanted to ask openSUSE to add the drivers of my new laptop in the distribution, to get full performance, last longer battery etc I also wanted to suggest to OpenSUSE, to add better general support in hardware acceleration, audio, GPU, av1, vp9, avc, etc

i have a general question regarding power saving with laptops and deep sleeping memory power management. apparently i can only make e.g. debian live usb stick or ubuntu or suse work with proper memory sleeping on rather old systems or desktop processors. a current laptop does not sleep properly. it consumes battery at a high rate even when sleeping and doesnt use or offer the deep sleep memory state. any hints?

Show cat /sys/power/mem_sleep

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 2:44 PM cagsm wrote:

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 5:54 AM Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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On 01.08.2023 00:01, cagsm wrote:

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On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 5:59 PM Leandro Almeida wrote:

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Hello, I wanted to ask openSUSE to add the drivers of my new laptop in the distribution, to get full performance, last longer battery etc I also wanted to suggest to OpenSUSE, to add better general support in hardware acceleration, audio, GPU, av1, vp9, avc, etc i have a general question regarding power saving with laptops and deep sleeping memory power management. apparently i can only make e.g. debian live usb stick or ubuntu or suse work with proper memory sleeping on rather old systems or desktop processors. a current laptop does not sleep properly. it consumes battery at a high rate even when sleeping and doesnt use or offer the deep sleep memory state. any hints? Show cat /sys/power/mem_sleep

I only have s2idle in there on the new laptop machine, and I have

That explains the higher battery rate and why it does not offer deep sleep. Any further discussion is pointless without system information and in any case is out of scope for this list.

already tried to make sense of this and where the advertised features originate from and become populated. apparently this new laptop machine does not offer suspend-to-ram

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https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/pm/sleep-states.html

but old machinery and even desktop systems do offer it no problem at all. i dont find much documentation exactly talking about suse/opensuse and sleep states and all only other open source hardware projects such as frame.work folks kind of discuss this as well with their rather new hardware also having trouble with this (user community forum).

what bothers me just as well, is that even this s2idle stuff doesnt kind of keep the machine sleeping even at this level, when sleep the machine via kde/lockscreen icon it eventually wakes up sometimes like immediately again or sometimes within seconds or like half a minute the screen is back to visible pixels and the power LED on the laptop is not flashing slowly fading in and out but comes back to real alive state. even when i close the lid of the laptop, it does come back to life when i plug in the power the machine being in this state, lid folded (and made it go s2idle at least with this event).

i didnt think of linux kernels having this kind of basic power problems? hopefully this will be enhanced? this laptop is not really able to run on battery when it behaves like this. thanks for any hints how to improve this.

On 01.08.2023 16:15, Kilian Hanich wrote:

So, I read up on the kernels power states.

s2idle is a pure software solution and comparable to Windows Modern Standby (but, because it's purely software not exactly), but it always works.

That is not quite correct. a) s2idle kernel code has hooks that can be used (and are used) to call into platform specific code on entering/exiting s2idle. b) system may (attempt to) enter low power mode by itself when it is idle and all devices are in suitable low power mode. So it is by far not the pure software solution and unfortunately not always works. There are quite some systems that do not even support (at least, advertise support of) S3 and s2idle is the only option. Such systems normally support S0ix which means s2idle ends up in firmware. There is not much Linux kernel can do here. Just search for problems with modern standby in Windows. The OP system looks like one of such S0ix only systems. It is possible that Linux kernel fails to put some devices in low power mode but that needs dedicated debugging.

shallow is mapped to ACPI S1. Modern CPUs from Intel (and probably AMD, but I wasn't able to find anything about it for them) only support S3 these days.

deep is mapped to ACPI S3. While modern CPUs support it, modern motherboards and at this point including BIOS don't support it anymore (yep, some OEMs even removed the code for it).

So, shallow and deep are pretty much dying out these days. Linux can't really do anything about that.

Am 01.08.23 um 13:43 schrieb cagsm:

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I only have s2idle in there on the new laptop machine, and I have already tried to make sense of this and where the advertised features originate from and become populated. apparently this new laptop machine does not offer suspend-to-ram

Sincerely

Kilian Hanich

On 2023-08-01 13:43, cagsm wrote:

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 5:54 AM Andrei Borzenkov <> wrote:

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On 01.08.2023 00:01, cagsm wrote:

what bothers me just as well, is that even this s2idle stuff doesnt kind of keep the machine sleeping even at this level, when sleep the machine via kde/lockscreen icon it eventually wakes up sometimes like immediately again or sometimes within seconds or like half a minute the screen is back to visible pixels and the power LED on the laptop is not flashing slowly fading in and out but comes back to real alive state. even when i close the lid of the laptop, it does come back to life when i plug in the power the machine being in this state, lid folded (and made it go s2idle at least with this event).

I have a new laptop, Lenovo L14 Gen 3 (14" AMD). It can suspend to disk and 2 ram. But, at least in suspend to ram status, connecting the power cable powers it up, even with lid closed IIRC. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)