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Hello Hopefully correct category. [opensuse-factory] There seems to be unresolvable statuses on all live cd builds [1] openSUSE:Factory:Live > Status Monitor Something broke ? The latest live kde cd [2] seem to be dated 05-Aug-2011 nothing after that. Thanks Glenn [1]https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor?commit=Filter%3A&failed=1&unresolvable=1&broken=1&locked=1&pkgname=&repo_images=1&repo_snapshot=1&repo_standard=1&arch_i586=1&arch_x86_64=1&project=openSUSE%3AFactory%3ALive&defaults=0 [2]http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/openSUSE-KDE-LiveCD-x86_64-Build018... 05-Aug-2011 05:47 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2011 schrieb doiggl@velocitynet.com.au:
Hello Hopefully correct category. [opensuse-factory]
There seems to be unresolvable statuses on all live cd builds [1] openSUSE:Factory:Live > Status Monitor Something broke ? The latest live kde cd [2] seem to be dated 05-Aug-2011 nothing after that.
I guess we should really kill the live cds. Noone cares about them ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 13:50, Stephan Kulow
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2011 schrieb doiggl@velocitynet.com.au:
Hello Hopefully correct category. [opensuse-factory]
There seems to be unresolvable statuses on all live cd builds [1] openSUSE:Factory:Live > Status Monitor Something broke ? The latest live kde cd [2] seem to be dated 05-Aug-2011 nothing after that.
I guess we should really kill the live cds. Noone cares about them ;(
Replace them with LiveDVDs... :) I've been looking, but back at the beginning of August there was a thread about the builds through Aug... basicaly as I understood it, we were ot to expect any builds until vacation time was over. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:10PM +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2011 schrieb doiggl@velocitynet.com.au:
Hello Hopefully correct category. [opensuse-factory]
There seems to be unresolvable statuses on all live cd builds [1] openSUSE:Factory:Live > Status Monitor Something broke ? The latest live kde cd [2] seem to be dated 05-Aug-2011 nothing after that.
I guess we should really kill the live cds. Noone cares about them ;(
? You are the only having write permissions in this directory that could potentially fix them... Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2011 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:10PM +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2011 schrieb doiggl@velocitynet.com.au:
Hello Hopefully correct category. [opensuse-factory]
There seems to be unresolvable statuses on all live cd builds [1] openSUSE:Factory:Live > Status Monitor Something broke ? The latest live kde cd [2] seem to be dated 05-Aug-2011 nothing after that.
I guess we should really kill the live cds. Noone cares about them ;(
? You are the only having write permissions in this directory that could potentially fix them...
I know. But the fact remains that it took a whole week before someone even replied to the fact that the live cds are broken. They are just very fragile Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 08/24/2011 07:18 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I know. But the fact remains that it took a whole week before someone even replied to the fact that the live cds are broken. They are just very fragile
I use the KDE Live CD from Factory, and I missed the new versions. While unable to get new ones, I used Build 0186 to install, set Factory as the repos, and did a 'zypper dup'. I also described this process on the beta forum. A number of people there used this workaround. It was not that I don't care. I just did not want to make any more noise. As long as I could get to the end point, that was fine. BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing that will be dup'ed every day anyway. The 700 MB of a Live CD is just right and it installs quickly. If Live CDs are not available, then I will use NET install CDs. That usually entails a 2+ GB download. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 08/24/2011 11:20 AM, Larry Finger pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 08/24/2011 07:18 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I know. But the fact remains that it took a whole week before someone even replied to the fact that the live cds are broken. They are just very fragile
I use the KDE Live CD from Factory, and I missed the new versions. While unable to get new ones, I used Build 0186 to install, set Factory as the repos, and did a 'zypper dup'. I also described this process on the beta forum. A number of people there used this workaround.
It was not that I don't care. I just did not want to make any more noise. As long as I could get to the end point, that was fine.
BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing that will be dup'ed every day anyway. The 700 MB of a Live CD is just right and it installs quickly. If Live CDs are not available, then I will use NET install CDs. That usually entails a 2+ GB download.
Larry
why does the DVD have to contain 4GB of data? Why not a live media that is 1.2GB in size or .975GB or 1.4GB? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 24.08.2011 18:09, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
On 08/24/2011 11:20 AM, Larry Finger pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 08/24/2011 07:18 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I know. But the fact remains that it took a whole week before someone even replied to the fact that the live cds are broken. They are just very fragile
I use the KDE Live CD from Factory, and I missed the new versions. While unable to get new ones, I used Build 0186 to install, set Factory as the repos, and did a 'zypper dup'. I also described this process on the beta forum. A number of people there used this workaround.
It was not that I don't care. I just did not want to make any more noise. As long as I could get to the end point, that was fine.
BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing that will be dup'ed every day anyway. The 700 MB of a Live CD is just right and it installs quickly. If Live CDs are not available, then I will use NET install CDs. That usually entails a 2+ GB download.
Larry
why does the DVD have to contain 4GB of data? Why not a live media that is 1.2GB in size or .975GB or 1.4GB?
Because that´s the de facto standard. And why should place be wasted if you burn it to a 4GB DVD? thanks, -- -o) Kim Leyendecker /\\ openSUSE Ambassador, openSUSE Wiki Team DE _\_v http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 08/24/2011 12:56 PM, Kim Leyendecker pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am 24.08.2011 18:09, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
On 08/24/2011 11:20 AM, Larry Finger pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 08/24/2011 07:18 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I know. But the fact remains that it took a whole week before someone even replied to the fact that the live cds are broken. They are just very fragile
I use the KDE Live CD from Factory, and I missed the new versions. While unable to get new ones, I used Build 0186 to install, set Factory as the repos, and did a 'zypper dup'. I also described this process on the beta forum. A number of people there used this workaround.
It was not that I don't care. I just did not want to make any more noise. As long as I could get to the end point, that was fine.
BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing that will be dup'ed every day anyway. The 700 MB of a Live CD is just right and it installs quickly. If Live CDs are not available, then I will use NET install CDs. That usually entails a 2+ GB download.
Larry
why does the DVD have to contain 4GB of data? Why not a live media that is 1.2GB in size or .975GB or 1.4GB?
Because that´s the de facto standard. And why should place be wasted if you burn it to a 4GB DVD?
thanks,
Well, standards change over time. And making the live version larger then what a CD holds eliminates package contraints. Oh, please keep replies to the list, people don't need _multiple copies_ of your emails. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 21:03, Ken Schneider - openSUSE
On 08/24/2011 12:56 PM, Kim Leyendecker pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am 24.08.2011 18:09, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
On 08/24/2011 11:20 AM, Larry Finger pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing that will be dup'ed every day anyway. The 700 MB of a Live CD is just right and it installs quickly. If Live CDs are not available, then I will use NET install CDs. That usually entails a 2+ GB download.
why does the DVD have to contain 4GB of data? Why not a live media that is 1.2GB in size or .975GB or 1.4GB?
Because that´s the de facto standard. And why should place be wasted if you burn it to a 4GB DVD?
Well, standards change over time. And making the live version larger then what a CD holds eliminates package contraints.
On this topic.... why can't we have Hybrid DVD ISOs just like the LiveCD ISOs? As in... make ALL ISOs hybrids so they are all easy to write to USB. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2011 schrieb C:
On this topic.... why can't we have Hybrid DVD ISOs just like the LiveCD ISOs? As in... make ALL ISOs hybrids so they are all easy to write to USB. Oh sorry, your clock is set wrong - you posted in the wrong year. In 2011 we _have_ all ISOs hybrid.
Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:55, Stephan Kulow
Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2011 schrieb C:
On this topic.... why can't we have Hybrid DVD ISOs just like the LiveCD ISOs? As in... make ALL ISOs hybrids so they are all easy to write to USB. Oh sorry, your clock is set wrong - you posted in the wrong year. In 2011 we _have_ all ISOs hybrid.
Hmmm... I swear the last time I tried this with the 11.4 ISO, Studio Image Writer refused to write the DVD to USB (complained it wasn't a hybrid ISO). I just tried with SIW 1.9, and.... it worked... wrote to USB without problems, and I had what I wanted, a full DVD ISO on a bootable USB stick. Well, dang, I stand corrected. I'll just go back to my corner now and quietly tinker with the latest 12.2 Milestone. :-P C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 08/24/2011 12:56 PM, Kim Leyendecker pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am 24.08.2011 18:09, schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
On 08/24/2011 11:20 AM, Larry Finger pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing
You can't just d/l some predefined set of what you need? a live DVD doesn't imply that you have to d/l 4 [? isn't it 4.7?] GB of data, I mean just because something has a max capacity of 'XXX', like say a car can carry .5-2 tons...(depends on care) -- you wouldn't drive it around fully loaded all the time, would you?
why does the DVD have to contain 4GB of data? Why not a live media that is 1.2GB in size or .975GB or 1.4GB?
^^ - What they said!
Because that�s the de facto standard. And why should place be wasted if you burn it to a 4GB DVD?
---- "De facto standard" where do you get that? Maximum size is 4.7, no? where does some 4GB standard come from? Most SW comes on DVD's these days, and they USUALLY are not full so I'm not so sure about any 'de facto' standard... or ...what are you referring to? As for 'place' (space?) being wasted... by burning less than 1.4GB to a DVD...what is being wasted? You are only burning what you need. Of course if you require the rest of the it was filled with unneeded information, then I'd agree -- it would be wasted.... I hope people are, _really_, NOT stuck in a 700M/4G mentality...(hey, lets not forget 25G BR!)... I mean who wouldn't go with the size they need rather than trying to shoehorn something -- I mean what's your time worth? (i.e. if you didn't include enough, or if you download the kitchen sink...)... Heck -- who burns to DVD's these days anyway? I mean I do...but only because I haven't done a bootable USB key yet (got the keys...just haven't gotten around to the learning part of the task...)... Seems like that's the way to go -- cheaper, faster, more reliable... And there, you can get 1GB/2GB keys really cheap these days (sometimes you'll find them given away!)... Certainly the reader/writer is cheaper (assuming you have any computer at all!) -- and more reliable (not hard considering how I've gone through DVD's over the past many years...).... -l -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 04:47, Linda Walsh
Heck -- who burns to DVD's these days anyway? I mean I do...but only because I haven't done a bootable USB key yet (got the keys...just haven't gotten around to the learning part of the task...)... Seems like that's the way to go -- cheaper, faster, more reliable... And there, you can get 1GB/2GB keys really cheap these days (sometimes you'll find them given away!)...
As referred to in my answer to Coolio's reply to my comment about writing the DVD to USB, it's pretty darned easy. 1. Install SUSE Studio Image Writer (it's in the repos) 2. Download the openSUSE ISO you want to write to USB (for people like me who were stuck in a different year, the DVD ISOs work in this procedure too) 3. Plug in (but don't mount) your USB stick, and launch SUSE Studio Image Writer. 4. Drag/drop the downloaded ISO on to the target in SUSE Studio Image Writer and click Write. That's it. once the write is done, you boot the USB stick on any computer that can boot from USB. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 08/26/2011 01:41 AM, C wrote:
As referred to in my answer to Coolio's reply to my comment about writing the DVD to USB, it's pretty darned easy.
1. Install SUSE Studio Image Writer (it's in the repos) 2. Download the openSUSE ISO you want to write to USB (for people like me who were stuck in a different year, the DVD ISOs work in this procedure too) 3. Plug in (but don't mount) your USB stick, and launch SUSE Studio Image Writer. 4. Drag/drop the downloaded ISO on to the target in SUSE Studio Image Writer and click Write.
That's it. once the write is done, you boot the USB stick on any computer that can boot from USB.
Thanks for the howto. The only thing missing is that the source needs to be switched from CD to Hard Disk when you install. A full KDE installation from USB only needs 15 minutes from the time you hit the "Install" button. Much faster than a DVD reader, and no burning needed. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 21:45, Larry Finger
1. Install SUSE Studio Image Writer (it's in the repos) 2. Download the openSUSE ISO you want to write to USB (for people like me who were stuck in a different year, the DVD ISOs work in this procedure too) 3. Plug in (but don't mount) your USB stick, and launch SUSE Studio Image Writer. 4. Drag/drop the downloaded ISO on to the target in SUSE Studio Image Writer and click Write.
That's it. once the write is done, you boot the USB stick on any computer that can boot from USB.
Thanks for the howto. The only thing missing is that the source needs to be switched from CD to Hard Disk when you install.
I only had to do this on the 12.1 Milestone 3 (installed it today on a machine for testing). I did an install using the 11.4 ISO today (written to USB using these steps) and I didn't have to go through the broken install procedure (where it drops to text mode and you have to tell it to do a hard drive install). So... works as expected with 11.4, but not quite as expected with 12.1.... not sure why. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Indeed I had adopted the same approach as Larry. I think it important we don't draw miss-conclusions just because no one is complaining loudly. I also use the liveCDs extensively. Lee On 08/24/2011 05:20 PM, Larry Finger wrote:
On 08/24/2011 07:18 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I know. But the fact remains that it took a whole week before someone even replied to the fact that the live cds are broken. They are just very fragile
I use the KDE Live CD from Factory, and I missed the new versions. While unable to get new ones, I used Build 0186 to install, set Factory as the repos, and did a 'zypper dup'. I also described this process on the beta forum. A number of people there used this workaround.
It was not that I don't care. I just did not want to make any more noise. As long as I could get to the end point, that was fine.
BTW, a Live DVD might be desirable, but it would not replace the Live CD. Why should I download 4 GB to create a minimal system for testing that will be dup'ed every day anyway. The 700 MB of a Live CD is just right and it installs quickly. If Live CDs are not available, then I will use NET install CDs. That usually entails a 2+ GB download.
Larry
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Linda Walsh -
Marcus Meissner -
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Stephan Kulow