[opensuse-factory] What is the plan for HAL in 11.3 - HAL or What?
Guys, I've read several development threads about the security fundamentals of the present HAL implementation and I have read that HAL is being completely removed from the picture. (i.e. HAL free Xorg 1.8, etc...). The issue seems to be some fundamental flaw in the present implementation and the argument is whether it requires tossing the complete HAL stack or if a low level redesign to remove the flaw can be done while preserving most of the current way HAL works (the details of which pass well over my head) But that does prompt the question: "What is opensuse doing in this regard and is there a plan to address it?" What's the current line of thinking for 11.3? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:10:10PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I've read several development threads about the security fundamentals of the present HAL implementation and I have read that HAL is being completely removed from the picture. (i.e. HAL free Xorg 1.8, etc...). The issue seems to be some fundamental flaw in the present implementation and the argument is whether it requires tossing the complete HAL stack or if a low level redesign to remove the flaw can be done while preserving most of the current way HAL works (the details of which pass well over my head)
But that does prompt the question: "What is opensuse doing in this regard and is there a plan to address it?"
What's the current line of thinking for 11.3?
It's almost entirely removed from FACTORY, the remaining bits are being worked on, but fully working systems run today without it. It's just a matter of time :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:10:10PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I've read several development threads about the security fundamentals of the present HAL implementation and I have read that HAL is being completely removed from the picture. (i.e. HAL free Xorg 1.8, etc...). The issue seems to be some fundamental flaw in the present implementation and the argument is whether it requires tossing the complete HAL stack or if a low level redesign to remove the flaw can be done while preserving most of the current way HAL works (the details of which pass well over my head)
But that does prompt the question: "What is opensuse doing in this regard and is there a plan to address it?"
What's the current line of thinking for 11.3?
I am not really seeing securitye flaws, but upstream decided that HAL is not flexible enough nor exactly matching what they want so there was redesign and it is being replaced by udev, udisks, upower, media-player-db etc. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 of April 2010, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I've read several development threads about the security fundamentals of the present HAL implementation and I have read that HAL is being completely removed from the picture. (i.e. HAL free Xorg 1.8, etc...). The issue seems to be some fundamental flaw in the present implementation and the argument is whether it requires tossing the complete HAL stack or if a low level redesign to remove the flaw can be done while preserving most of the current way HAL works (the details of which pass well over my head)
But that does prompt the question: "What is opensuse doing in this regard and is there a plan to address it?"
I assume the plan is to do whatever the decision of upstream is.
What's the current line of thinking for 11.3?
There doesn't seem to be a viable HAL alternative for KDE in 11.3, so HAL is needed for the time being. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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