[opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?

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Roman Bysh

4 Mar 2013 4 Mar '13

18:59

Hello all, I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right. I think the original colored traffic lights would look great on black. Yes? -- Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Stephan Kulow

5 Mar 5 Mar

07:45

On 04.03.2013 19:59, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello all,

I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Really? I'm thinking about a rolling dice and wonder if they added monopoly to the default starter. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Sascha Peilicke

07:55

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

As far as I can tell, the feature is neither stable nor mature but kactivities4 pulls in some additional dependencies. Otherwise we could just disable building it and reduce the bloatness factor of our favorite DE. So if nobody objects, I'll do that soonish. Am 5. März 2013 08:45:03 schrieb Stephan Kulow :

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On 04.03.2013 19:59, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello all,

I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Really? I'm thinking about a rolling dice and wonder if they added monopoly to the default starter.

Greetings, Stephan

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Stephan Kulow

07:58

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

On 05.03.2013 08:55, Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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As far as I can tell, the feature is neither stable nor mature but kactivities4 pulls in some additional dependencies. Otherwise we could just disable building it and reduce the bloatness factor of our favorite DE.

So if nobody objects, I'll do that soonish.

We had that discussion before (where it belongs, on opensuse-kde ml) and the general consensus was that a lot of KDE users do use activities. Will started an effort to make a "tiny KDE", but I'm not sure were it is. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Sascha Peilicke

07:59

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

Am 5. März 2013 08:58:30 schrieb Stephan Kulow :

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On 05.03.2013 08:55, Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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As far as I can tell, the feature is neither stable nor mature but kactivities4 pulls in some additional dependencies. Otherwise we could just disable building it and reduce the bloatness factor of our favorite DE.

So if nobody objects, I'll do that soonish.

We had that discussion before (where it belongs, on opensuse-kde ml) and the general consensus was that a lot of KDE users do use activities. Will started an effort to make a "tiny KDE", but I'm not sure were it is.

Good to know, I'll pester him then.

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Greetings, Stephan

Roman Bysh

17:01

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

On 03/05/2013 02:59 AM, Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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Am 5. März 2013 08:58:30 schrieb Stephan Kulow :

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On 05.03.2013 08:55, Sascha Peilicke wrote:

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As far as I can tell, the feature is neither stable nor mature but kactivities4 pulls in some additional dependencies. Otherwise we could just disable building it and reduce the bloatness factor of our favorite DE.

So if nobody objects, I'll do that soonish.

We had that discussion before (where it belongs, on opensuse-kde ml) and the general consensus was that a lot of KDE users do use activities. Will started an effort to make a "tiny KDE", but I'm not sure were it is.

Good to know, I'll pester him then.

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Greetings, Stephan

-- With kind regards, Sascha Peilicke SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)

I moved this over to opensuse-kde ml. Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Erwin Van de Velde

17:14

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

I have to disagree here, I use it occasionally, most often when giving presentations: no more blank screen in the middle of the presentation or during questions, when the desktop is shown no folder view as people have no business with other documents I keep there, the default wallpaper since it is more professional than the other I use, etc. In the beginning I wondered to what it was all about, but now I understand :-) Also, on laptops it can be convenient if you want to have a work related folder view and a home folder view, etc. Best regards, Erwin -- Erwin Van de Velde G+: http://profiles.google.com/erwinvandevelde -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Martin Schlander

17:33

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

Tirsdag den 5. marts 2013 18:14:42 skrev Erwin Van de Velde:

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I have to disagree here, I use it occasionally, most often when giving presentations: no more blank screen in the middle of the presentation or during questions, when the desktop is shown no folder view as people have no business with other documents I keep there, the default wallpaper since it is more professional than the other I use, etc.

I use it the same way. Nice to have clean, non-personal desktop for presentations, and a personal desktop for other situations, that you can switch between with a couple of clicks. On my mediacenter I also use plasma-desktop. With different activities for movies, tv shows etc. Activities are not hard to understand, it's just different desktops. Virtual desktops == multiple *identical* desktops Activities == multiple *different* desktops (with associated apps if desired) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

17:45

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities?

On 2013-03-05 18:33 (GMT+0100) Martin Schlander composed:

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Activities are not hard to understand, it's just different desktops.

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Virtual desktops == multiple *identical* desktops

??? All 8 of my virtual desktops have different wallpaper and different app(s) open. This is identical?

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Activities == multiple *different* desktops (with associated apps if desired)

What difference? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

todd rme

21:25

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities?

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2013-03-05 18:33 (GMT+0100) Martin Schlander composed:

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Activities are not hard to understand, it's just different desktops.

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Virtual desktops == multiple *identical* desktops

??? All 8 of my virtual desktops have different wallpaper and different app(s) open. This is identical?

So far things you can associate with your activities besides just windows: 1. widgets 2. Files and directories 3. Power profiles The timeline may also be activity aware, but I'm not sure about that. I am seeing a lot of commits regarding activities coming down right now. It looks like for 4.11 pretty much all the KDE edu project applications will be activity-aware, for example. But even for 4.11 they do have additional capabilities not present in ordinary virtual desktops. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Roman Bysh

17:38

New subject: Does anyone understand or even use KDE activities? (Was Re: [opensuse-factory] Can the Activities icon be changed back to the original colorized version for 12.3?)

On 03/05/2013 12:14 PM, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:

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I have to disagree here, I use it occasionally, most often when giving presentations: no more blank screen in the middle of the presentation or during questions, when the desktop is shown no folder view as people have no business with other documents I keep there, the default wallpaper since it is more professional than the other I use, etc.

In the beginning I wondered to what it was all about, but now I understand :-) Also, on laptops it can be convenient if you want to have a work related folder view and a home folder view, etc.

Best regards, Erwin

I agree. I've also been using it for presentations. The activities feature allows users to quickly switch from one type of work profile to another without having to create another user. Please DO NOT remove. -- Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

20:58

On 04/03/13 19:59, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello all,

I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Agreed, it makes me want to play Yahtzee. I've got a version here which is a monochrome rework of the 3 coloured dots, which I'll submit for 12.3, in agreement with the openSUSE KDE team's designer.

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I think the original colored traffic lights would look great on black. Yes?

I think those look like something off the front of a 70s Color TV, but each to his own. The concept behind the 12.3 KDE branding is that all the non-application icons on the panel are monochrome, except for the SUSE logo on the app launcher. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

6 Mar 6 Mar

09:57

On 05/03/13 21:58, Will Stephenson wrote:

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I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Agreed, it makes me want to play Yahtzee.

I've got a version here which is a monochrome rework of the 3 coloured dots, which I'll submit for 12.3, in agreement with the openSUSE KDE team's designer.

12.3 default panel: http://paste.opensuse.org/4419168 The SR is probably too late for today's gold master candidate, but will be in the initial online update. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

10:20

On 06/03/13 20:57, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On 05/03/13 21:58, Will Stephenson wrote:

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I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Agreed, it makes me want to play Yahtzee.

I've got a version here which is a monochrome rework of the 3 coloured dots, which I'll submit for 12.3, in agreement with the openSUSE KDE team's designer.

12.3 default panel: http://paste.opensuse.org/4419168

The SR is probably too late for today's gold master candidate, but will be in the initial online update.

Will

But they aren't coloured :'( . We want the pretty colours back, please :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.00 & kernel 3.8.2-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dale Ritchey

13:04

On 03/06/2013 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 06/03/13 20:57, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On 05/03/13 21:58, Will Stephenson wrote:

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I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Agreed, it makes me want to play Yahtzee.

I've got a version here which is a monochrome rework of the 3 coloured dots, which I'll submit for 12.3, in agreement with the openSUSE KDE team's designer.

12.3 default panel: http://paste.opensuse.org/4419168

The SR is probably too late for today's gold master candidate, but will be in the initial online update.

Will

But they aren't coloured :'( . We want the pretty colours back, please :-) .

BC

Can't you just change the thing with system settings > workspace appearance >desktop theme? I did -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

7 Mar 7 Mar

06:30

On 07/03/13 00:04, Dale Ritchey wrote:

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On 03/06/2013 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 06/03/13 20:57, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On 05/03/13 21:58, Will Stephenson wrote:

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I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Agreed, it makes me want to play Yahtzee.

I've got a version here which is a monochrome rework of the 3 coloured dots, which I'll submit for 12.3, in agreement with the openSUSE KDE team's designer.

12.3 default panel: http://paste.opensuse.org/4419168

The SR is probably too late for today's gold master candidate, but will be in the initial online update.

Will

But they aren't coloured :'( . We want the pretty colours back, please :-) .

BC

Can't you just change the thing with system settings > workspace appearance >desktop theme? I did

I am not in 12.3 at the moment (nor can get to it because of a glitch with grub2), so what did you end up with when you changed the desktop theme - did you get the previous coloured balls or what? And to which DE did you change? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.1 & kernel 3.8.2-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Roman Bysh

6 Mar 6 Mar

17:37

On 03/06/2013 04:57 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On 05/03/13 21:58, Will Stephenson wrote:

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I know it's late but...Every time I look at the Activities icon 3D box I'm thinking about VirtualBox. It doesn't look right.

Agreed, it makes me want to play Yahtzee.

I've got a version here which is a monochrome rework of the 3 coloured dots, which I'll submit for 12.3, in agreement with the openSUSE KDE team's designer.

12.3 default panel: http://paste.opensuse.org/4419168

The SR is probably too late for today's gold master candidate, but will be in the initial online update.

Will

Will The file is missing on http://paste.opensuse.org/4419168 404 Page Not Found The page you requested was not found. Can you please upload again? -- Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! ------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Stephan Kulow
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Will Stephenson