[opensuse-factory] skipping partition module
Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time. I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition. it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled computers :-). autoyast uses always the hole disk, a solution could be to trigger autoyast to use a disk without erasing it :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:46:30PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time.
I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition.
it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled computers :-).
autoyast uses always the hole disk, a solution could be to trigger autoyast to use a disk without erasing it :-)
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houghi wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:46:30PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time.
I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition.
it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled computers :-).
autoyast uses always the hole disk, a solution could be to trigger autoyast to use a disk without erasing it :-)
Edit config.xml?
according to an old thread on the subject, what I ask for seemed not to be possible simply, but may be I didn't search enough :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
Hi jdd, Tell me, does this happen on text or graphical mode? And how many partitions do you have? In case you haven't tried the text mode, please do so. Thanks, Ricardo Em Quarta, 28 de Junho de 2006 21:46, o jdd escreveu:
Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time.
I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition.
it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled computers :-).
autoyast uses always the hole disk, a solution could be to trigger autoyast to use a disk without erasing it :-)
thanks jdd
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Ricardo Cruz wrote:
Hi jdd,
Tell me, does this happen on text or graphical mode? And how many partitions do you have? In case you haven't tried the text mode, please do so.
of course in text mode :-). what gave me problem is that the ram requirement get higher at each new distribution. I installed 9.* with no problem with as low as 45Mb on an old computer, but needed 32Mb more for 10.0 and couldn't install 10.1 with 128Mb. That was a laptop, so I had time before I could get more ram (for free, given the no money value of the computer). At present time, there are lot of nearly free computer and lot of people (even in Europe) that can't afford a new computer, not to speak of the many people in China or India or Africa... So I'm pretty sure there is interest for low profile distro. SUSE is very interesting in this respect, because yast is nearly as complete in text mode as in graphical mode, and I hope this will continue - even on a comfortable server, I have no graphics installed :-). And I have already seen that the problem is mostly at install. After having installed the system, even KDE run quite well on 10.0, P233 and 80Mb ram. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:31:38AM +0200, jdd wrote:
So I'm pretty sure there is interest for low profile distro.
Why not use one of them for that specific purpose? DSL is very good. I myself have Debian running on a 486 portable with 48MB of ram. Works great. There are many more distributions out there for low end machies. SUSE is just not one of them. -- houghi Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
houghi wrote:
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:31:38AM +0200, jdd wrote:
So I'm pretty sure there is interest for low profile distro.
Why not use one of them for that specific purpose? DSL is very good. I myself have Debian running on a 486 portable with 48MB of ram. Works great.
There are many more distributions out there for low end machies. SUSE is just not one of them. Yast is a big plus, IMHO and works perfectly in text mode. Don't speak of debian in this respect... (I know DSL :() jdd
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jdd wrote:
houghi wrote:
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 10:31:38AM +0200, jdd wrote:
So I'm pretty sure there is interest for low profile distro.
Why not use one of them for that specific purpose? DSL is very good. I myself have Debian running on a 486 portable with 48MB of ram. Works great.
There are many more distributions out there for low end machies. SUSE is just not one of them. Yast is a big plus, IMHO and works perfectly in text mode. Don't speak of debian in this respect... (I know DSL :() jdd
Just my 2c. My basic reason is that I feel comfortable with SUSE. It is asking for very little work after installation, comparing to others. I have tried a lot distributions by now, Linux and BSD based, and most of them are good, but they all have some specific solutions. I would like not to spend time in learning how to configure computer in million ways, but rather how to use it. Most of users actually want even more, only to use a computer, that is what makes SUSE distribution popular. It is an OS and applications at once, with fairly well configured defaults for the most popular of them. I was looking on memory usage when one more KDE desktop is active (switch user), and it is not that big difference. It is the installation stage that makes trouble. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
Basically, the answer is no: YaST needs the storage information for partitioning, but also for bootloader and software installation (disk space checking). All you can get is not entering the UI, but this still means all the detection and proposing will be done anyway. Stano Dňa St 28. Jún 2006 22:46 jdd napísal:
Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time.
I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition.
it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled computers :-).
autoyast uses always the hole disk, a solution could be to trigger autoyast to use a disk without erasing it :-)
thanks jdd
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Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
Basically, the answer is no: YaST needs the storage information for partitioning, but also for bootloader and software installation (disk space checking).
All you can get is not entering the UI, but this still means all the detection and proposing will be done anyway.
read is not a problem, the problem (AFAIK) is that Yast locks the disk (or a similar mechanism) for enable writing partitions. that is we can't use swap at this moment. Or can we? if yes, how? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
Dňa Po 10. Júl 2006 12:24 jdd napísal:
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
Basically, the answer is no: YaST needs the storage information for partitioning, but also for bootloader and software installation (disk space checking).
All you can get is not entering the UI, but this still means all the detection and proposing will be done anyway.
read is not a problem, the problem (AFAIK) is that Yast locks the disk (or a similar mechanism) for enable writing partitions. that is we can't use swap at this moment. Or can we? if yes, how?
You can activate the swap using linuxrc. But of course, it has to exist already when booting the installation. Stano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
You can activate the swap using linuxrc. But of course, it has to exist already when booting the installation.
I could not achieve this :-(. I tried to go to a console (alt Fx and there type "swapon /dev/xxx" (I have already a linux installed, so there is a swap), but this didn't chage anything :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
Dňa Po 10. Júl 2006 16:40 jdd napísal:
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
You can activate the swap using linuxrc. But of course, it has to exist already when booting the installation.
I could not achieve this :-(. I tried to go to a console (alt Fx and there type "swapon /dev/xxx" (I have already a linux installed, so there is a swap), but this didn't chage anything :-(
Try this argument for booting the installation: AddSwap: 0|3|/dev/hda5 if 0, never ask for swap; if the argument is a positive number n, activate the nth swap partition; if the argument is a partition name, activate this swap partition Stano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
Try this argument for booting the installation:
AddSwap: 0|3|/dev/hda5 if 0, never ask for swap; if the argument is a positive number n, activate the nth swap partition; if the argument is a partition name, activate this swap partition
very interesting, thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org
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