On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:50:10 GMT Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 11.35:14 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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Hi

Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start... Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :)

Aren't your that's not the mixed repositories you have ?

A TW of the day has Qt: 5.7.1, KDE Frameworks: 5.29.0, Plasma: 5.8.5, kwin5: 5.8.5

Your following your signature seems to have :

Qt: 5.7.1 KDE Frameworks: 5.30.0 KDE Plasma: 5.8.95 kwin5-5.8.95-174.1.x86_64

I've not hanging desktop, no panel freeze, and akonadi is working. Mmmm i'll check that, thanks

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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:09:33 GMT J. F. Lemaire wrote:

On 17 January 2017 at 13:50, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 11.35:14 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start... Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :)

Aren't your that's not the mixed repositories you have ?

A TW of the day has Qt: 5.7.1, KDE Frameworks: 5.29.0, Plasma: 5.8.5, kwin5: 5.8.5

I don't think it is because I have the exact same package versions as those and the exact same symptoms described above.

Cheers, JFL I forgot to add --no-allow-vendor-change and its downgraded everything to the correct levels and the hanging panel/desktop seems to have stopped although i'm still occasionally having it hang during a log in.

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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:39:20 GMT Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 16.14:50 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:09:33 GMT J. F. Lemaire wrote:

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On 17 January 2017 at 13:50, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 11.35:14 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start... Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :)

Aren't your that's not the mixed repositories you have ?

A TW of the day has Qt: 5.7.1, KDE Frameworks: 5.29.0, Plasma: 5.8.5, kwin5: 5.8.5

I don't think it is because I have the exact same package versions as those and the exact same symptoms described above.

Cheers, JFL

I forgot to add --no-allow-vendor-change and its downgraded everything to the correct levels and the hanging panel/desktop seems to have stopped although i'm still occasionally having it hang during a log in.

then the hang is probably (but I've no science clue here) due to nouveau. I'm using the proprietary blob (my quadro being not that known to nouveau yet) and I don't see any hang during a working session.

I suspected that as well as my graphics card starts beeping like mad at times, i think i should start looking at buying a radeon or similar -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20170112 Qt: 5.7.1 KDE Frameworks: 5.29.0 KDE Plasma: 5.8.5 kwin5-5.8.5-1.1.x86_64 kmail2 5.4.0 Kernel: 4.9.0-2-default Nouveau: 1.0.13_2.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Bruno Friedmann wrote:

On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 16.14:50 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:09:33 GMT J. F. Lemaire wrote:

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On 17 January 2017 at 13:50, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 11.35:14 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start... Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :)

Aren't your that's not the mixed repositories you have ?

A TW of the day has Qt: 5.7.1, KDE Frameworks: 5.29.0, Plasma: 5.8.5, kwin5: 5.8.5

I don't think it is because I have the exact same package versions as those and the exact same symptoms described above.

Cheers, JFL

I forgot to add --no-allow-vendor-change and its downgraded everything to the correct levels and the hanging panel/desktop seems to have stopped although i'm still occasionally having it hang during a log in.

then the hang is probably (but I've no science clue here) due to nouveau.

I was also using nouveau for a while, with both 421 and 422, always had hangs.

I'm using the proprietary blob (my quadro being not that known to nouveau yet) and I don't see any hang during a working session.

For the time being, I've blacklisted nouveau - graphics are slooooow, so I'll switch to the nvidia supplied driver soon. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-4.3°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:15 AM, J. F. Lemaire wrote:

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On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 16.14:50 h CET ianseeks wrote: then the hang is probably (but I've no science clue here) due to nouveau.

I'm on intel graphics and I experience the random freezes too.

Cheers, JFL -- Jean-François Lemaire

No issue with AMD radeon here so probably it is not consistent.

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Felix Miata wrote:

Per Jessen composed on 2017-01-18 08:36 (UTC+0100):

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I was also using nouveau for a while, with both 421 and 422, always had hangs.

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For the time being, I've blacklisted nouveau - graphics are slooooow, so I'll switch to the nvidia supplied driver soon.

Slow using which Xorg driver?

nouveau(0)?

Blacklisted.

vesa(0)? fbdev(0)? modeset(0)?

How do I determine which one is in use? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-2.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

Per Jessen composed on 2017-01-18 12:34 (UTC+0100):

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Felix Miata wrote:

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Slow using which Xorg driver?

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nouveau(0)?

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Blacklisted.

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vesa(0)? fbdev(0)? modeset(0)?

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How do I determine which one is in use?

Whichever one you see abundant repeats of in Xorg.0.log, especially if it's on any lines that contain the string "onnected".

No such line, but plenty with VESA listed. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-3.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

Per Jessen composed on 2017-01-18 17:32 (UTC+0100):

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Slow using which Xorg driver?

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Blacklisted.

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Whichever one you see abundant repeats of in Xorg.0.log, especially if it's on any lines that contain the string "onnected".

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No such line, but plenty with VESA listed.

VESA is creepy crawly slow.

Sounds like what I'm seeing.

Could it be that you're running 13.2 and xf86-video-modesetting needs to be installed.

Nope, this is leap422.

If TW, 42.1 or 42.2, what is the output from 'lspci -nnk | grep -A5 VGA'?

# lspci -nnk | grep -A5 VGA 60:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G84GL [Quadro FX 1700] [10de:040f] (rev a1) Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:049a] Kernel modules: nouveau -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-3.3°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata wrote:

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# lspci -nnk | grep -A5 VGA 60:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G84GL [Quadro FX 1700] [10de:040f] (rev a1) Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:049a] Kernel modules: nouveau

Looks like it may be just a wee bit too ancient, at 9 years of age[1], for modeset(0) support, leaving you stuck with what you have unless you install the non-free driver or un-blacklist nouveau,

nouveau isn't workable, keeps crashing sddm. I'll most likely just use the nvidia driver. It's mostly a test system. Thanks for your input. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-4.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen [18.01.2017 12:34]:

Felix Miata wrote:

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Per Jessen composed on 2017-01-18 08:36 (UTC+0100):

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I was also using nouveau for a while, with both 421 and 422, always had hangs.

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For the time being, I've blacklisted nouveau - graphics are slooooow, so I'll switch to the nvidia supplied driver soon.

Slow using which Xorg driver?

nouveau(0)?

Blacklisted.

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vesa(0)? fbdev(0)? modeset(0)?

How do I determine which one is in use?

For this purpose I most often use "hwinfo --gfxcard", it shows the current driver and some hardware details. The hwinfo binary ist installed on openSUSE by default, AFAIK. Werner --

Werner Flamme composed on 2017-01-18 18:11 (UTC+0100):

Per Jessen composed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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Per Jessen composed on 2017-01-18 08:36 (UTC+0100):

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Slow using which Xorg driver?

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nouveau(0)?

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Blacklisted.

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vesa(0)? fbdev(0)? modeset(0)?

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How do I determine which one is in use?

For this purpose I most often use "hwinfo --gfxcard", it shows the current driver and some hardware details. The hwinfo binary ist installed on openSUSE by default, AFAIK.

That only reports the kernel driver in use, not the Xorg driver, as it works from any terminal even when neither Xorg nor Wayland are running. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen a következőt írta ekkor: 2017. január 18., szerda 12:34:49 CET

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Slow using which Xorg driver?

nouveau(0)?

Blacklisted.

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vesa(0)? fbdev(0)? modeset(0)?

How do I determine which one is in use?

# inxi -G Graphics: Card: Intel Crystal Well Integrated Graphics Controller Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa) tty size: 151x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root out of X Have found only in the utilties repo. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Felix Miata wrote:

... Color schemes don't seem to be defeatable. :-(

In .bashrc I added # Remove colour codes from ascii # See http://misc.flogisoft.com/bash/tip_colors_and_formatting for codes # See https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/55546/removing-color-codes-from-out... for sed alias no-color='sed "s/\x1B\[[0-9;]*[JKmsu]//g"' alias no-colour='sed "s/\x1B\[[0-9;]*[JKmsu]//g"' I pipe the inxi outup through no-colo(u)r to remove the colo(u)rs. Roger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:44:35 +0100, Kapcsándi István wrote:

Per Jessen a következőt írta ekkor: 2017. január 18., szerda 12:34:49 CET

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Slow using which Xorg driver?

nouveau(0)?

Blacklisted.

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vesa(0)? fbdev(0)? modeset(0)?

How do I determine which one is in use?

# inxi -G Graphics: Card: Intel Crystal Well Integrated Graphics Controller Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa) tty size: 151x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root out of X

Have found only in the utilties repo.

Nice! though it produces illegible output on xterm with black on light-gray Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] Display Server: X.Org 1.16.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1200@59.95hz GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits) GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.3 Likely to up tomorrow to the new 4.9.3 kernel -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.25 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

On 01/18/17 09:36, Per Jessen wrote:

Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:09:33 GMT J. F. Lemaire wrote:

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On 17 January 2017 at 13:50, Bruno Friedmann wrote:

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On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 11.35:14 h CET ianseeks wrote:

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Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start... Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :) Aren't your that's not the mixed repositories you have ?

A TW of the day has Qt: 5.7.1, KDE Frameworks: 5.29.0, Plasma: 5.8.5, kwin5: 5.8.5 I don't think it is because I have the exact same package versions as those and the exact same symptoms described above.

Cheers, JFL I forgot to add --no-allow-vendor-change and its downgraded everything to the correct levels and the hanging panel/desktop seems to have stopped although i'm still occasionally having it hang during a log in.

On mardi, 17 janvier 2017 16.14:50 h CET ianseeks wrote: then the hang is probably (but I've no science clue here) due to nouveau. I was also using nouveau for a while, with both 421 and 422, always had hangs.

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I'm using the proprietary blob (my quadro being not that known to nouveau yet) and I don't see any hang during a working session. For the time being, I've blacklisted nouveau - graphics are slooooow, so I'll switch to the nvidia supplied driver soon.

TW latest release: using XFCE , and running Ktorrent the fonts of Ktorrent have gone tiny and am unable to find method to increase font size . ........ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:15:13 GMT Luca Beltrame wrote:

Il giorno Tue, 17 Jan 2017 11:35:14 +0000

ianseeks ha scritto:

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Hi

Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start... Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :)

As stated in the other thread (not only for you, but all those who follow up): the freeze only occurs with DRI2 and is caused by an Xorg bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99333

It doesn't occur on all systems (on my TW install at work, always; here at home, never).

It has been already fixed, and packages are in the queue for TW, so it will arrive sooner or later.

As a workaround, you may want to try enabling DRI3 (beware, that may cause other issues) for your driver. Thanks . Found that when it fails to log in, kwin_x11 is running at 100% (and more) so it looks like a hang I'll be patient, it took me 4 times to get to a desktop this morning

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On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:15:19 GMT Achim Gratz wrote:

ianseeks writes:

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Panel hanging then desktop hanging, sometimes hangs on login, akonadi doesn't always start...

It's been posted before, the reason for your troubles is probably this: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1020146

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Ctrl Backspace Backspace is your friend at the moment :)

Restarting plasmashell and akonadi worked for me.

Regards, Achim. Thanks.

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